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Billie Lee,
Seems I remember a Collins researcher mentioning the surname Brooks but not Locke. Can’t remember who or when so will have to go back through my notes when I get to feeling better.
John W. Collins who married Mary “Polly” Riffe was the son of my g-g-grandfather John W. Collins SR. and his first wife Lydia Toner. They lived on Collins Ridge in McDowell Co. WV.
John W. Collins SR. was married or involved in two relationships 1) Lydia Toner of who I know nothing about and Mary “Polly” Roark who goes back to the Sloan, Howard and Brock lines.
As for the dates on Meredith……
I have never found him on any Wilkes Co. census or tax list except 1796-7 and by 1799 he is listed in Russell Co. Va. He remained there til 1809 and is listed on Floyd Co. Ky by 1810. Further information proves he settled on a 50 acre land grant ( probably military grant) in 1809-10 on Shelby Creek ( later Pike Co. Ky)
Bill, Have you heard of any Locke or Brooks mixed up with our Collins?
Brenda
Brenda,
This file’s notes have Lydia Toner (Taner?), father maybe John Tonner age 70 in Grainger Co. TN. 1835 Census.
Wish I could remember more about this file, but there is a lot that I can’t recall in the year before my big stroke. I was having small ones that whole year. So I just don’t know, but I thought this might give you some more clues to follow.
Billie Lee
Brenda,
I just joined “Appalachian Heritage” today and I found the Brooks, Locke, Asbury and Collins connection on there.
BillieLee
BillieLee,
Hello my name is linda Morris and my grandfather Francis Morris Is Blackfoot. He originated from Missouri as well. Thought maybe we might have a connection somehow? Please let me know.
Linda,
Thanks for bringing this thread to the surface again. A few days after my last reply I was taken back to the hospital and was dianosed with a spinal infection of which I was hospitalized for two months. I completely lost track of the thread.
Billie Lee, Thanks for the information on what might be Lydia Toner’s father…….Bill can you find anything else on him?
Also need to ask…What is Appalachian Heritage? I know Frankie Blackburn, a cousin had a website by that name but thought it had been taken off the internet.
Brenda
Linda, I found an Amanda Morris who married Sirene J. Johnson abt. 1915 in MO. Sirene is one of my ancestors.
Hi .
Early Collins, John Collins & Elizabeth Odom…sons Samuel 1721, John 1723, Leven 1725, Joseph 1727..died in 1783 Thicketty Creek, NC? Stephen 1729, James 1731, Lewis 1733.
John Collins Sr born New Kent co va c1700.
Leven marries Catherine Odom..daughter fo Benjamin Odom and Thamer? Siblings of Catherine- Mary, Lydia, Sarah and Dorcas.
Catherine Odom and Leven Collins (son of Samuel above) have son Lewis Collins who marries Martha Allen..Their daughter Elizabeth Allen Collins born 15 Nov 1803 marries Jesse Collins. don’t know who the father of Jesse is. Just know it is a Collins/Collins marriage. Martha Allen was a daughter of Robert Allen III and Elizabeth West.
Another line, John Collins and Jemima Bowen, Orange co Va. , son John..cont
son of John Collins and Jemima Bowen..
John born c1744 have son Whitfield Collins born Apr 16 1782..Orange co Va.
He marries Sarah “Sallie” Allen..They had a son Lewis and a son Meredith…He was Rev. Whitfield Collins pastor of the Elk Lick Church about 6 miles e-se from Sadieville Ky.?
Now I have to find Thicketty creek NC.
Thought this was interesting..don’t know if these Collins are connecting to Brenda’s or not but having a son Meredith got me curious as to if they might be related.
Saj
Sue….
Several years ago I got all excited when I found the information on Whitfield Collins and his son Meredith. They came from Orange Co. Virginia, and father John would have been about the same age to be MY Meredith’s father and Whitfield having a son by the same name …..well after months of research I came across a descendant from that line that assured me that John and Jeminia Collins did NOT have a son named Meredith. Also that John and Jemina were both “white” and since my Meredith was listed as “mullato” and “free person of color” they could not be a connection. Another researcher informed me that John may have had slaves and MY Meredith could have been the product of such a union. ( This I have never proven)
Brenda
Gosh Brenda,
Sorry. There were two different lines here and the one with the son Meredith..this Meredith was the son of the pastor, not of John and Jemima. And Sarah “Sallie” Allen is of an unknown Allen family.
The others, of Samuel etc. mentioned before…with the Allen connection is not unknown. Martha Allen is in the right Allen line. and maybe they were white too for all I know.
I haven’t seen the name Odom before this. Don’t know…but those looked to be two different Collins lines to me…
Sue J
Brenda,
I only found a World Family Tree file showing:
Lydia Toner/Taner, dau of John Tonner,
m’d John Collins on 8 October 1821 Grainger Co., Tenn.
There were only ‘estimated’ date ranges for them and lists John Collins as dying in McDowell Co., WVa at an unknown date.
Their children as listed on that tree:
William, m’d Louisa Johnson
Margaret, m’d Lewis Riffe
Benjamin, m’d Susan Riffe
Jacob, m’d Nancy Riffe & 2) Christina Whit
John, m’d Mary Riffe
Ira, m’d Levice _?_.
The children’s marriage dates were in the 1840s and later.
I haven’t ran across any Locke or Brooks related to our Collins.
Bill
Siren Johnson married Amanda Morris whom was his third wife. 2nd wife Cora Collins married Siren in 21 Jul 1901.
Fred Johnson was Siren and 1st Collins wife’s son.
Fred Johnson married Pearly Morris.
Morris family flip side (my granma):
Lorena Pearl Rothgeb b. 6 Sept. 1908 Fredonia, Wilson Co. KS
Parents:
Joseph William Rothgeb b. 24 Aug. 1872 VA (KS?)
married 29 Dec. 1897
Clara Lamonia Tice b. 14 Jul. 1877 Longton, Elk Co., KS
Clara Lamonia Tice’s parents are as follows:
Soloman William Tice b. 13 Sept. 1848 Ohio or Iowa
married 26 Dec. 1872 Fredonia, Wilson Co. KS
ELLEN ELIZABETH MORRIS b. 30 Oct. 1852 Illinois
Ellen E. Morris’s parents are as follows:
James Matthew Morris and Mary Jane Hensley
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