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You guys are right in my backyard. Rosewell and the Pages – I’ve never visited the ruins…:eek: I used to go to one of the local black churches. They spell their last name PAIGE. I guess that’s one of those after slavery slave/master name changing things.
I gotta go to my kin folk Pamunkey ndn’s reservation again!!! I’ve never noticed a cemetery there before. NEwayz…..just my two cents…LOL:D
Roni,
The old tombstones at the church are all PAGE without the “I”. After turning off the main road going toward the reservation, going in, maybe a mile before you get to the museum to the left at a fork….. look to the right fork…… just visible is the church with the cemetery behind it…… very peaceful feeling spot. Do you know the genealogy of the Pamunkey PAGEs?
Blackindiangirl stated:
You guys are right in my backyard. Rosewell and the Pages – I’ve never visited the ruins… I used to go to one of the local black churches. They spell their last name PAIGE. I guess that’s one of those after slavery slave/master name changing things.
Becky:
You really should visit there…it is a very peaceful feeling…and an awesome house. It’s hard to imagine the magnificent house that used to be there…I hope to go back soon and bring back some cuttings from the flora there. The ones I brought back last fall didn’t make it.
The spellings aren’t always a slave/master thing…it could be a pronunciation thing…a spelling thing…have you ever read any of the census? The writings are very difficult to read. We have the same thing going on with the Whitefield/Whitfield family. Doesn’t matter as far as spelling…but to be aware of how to look things up, though.
Dreaminghawk and Becky……thanks for the directions for the cemetery at Pamunkey res. I sure don’t know much of the genealogy of the Pages except in passing during research on my WALLERs they married into that family. I also know that some married into Robert “King” CARTER’s family from another gen. site I’m a member of.
From what my aunt found, my Pamunkey’s were BRAXTONs and WALLERs. We don’t have any PAGEs in our family.
I like looking at census records, though when I finish I’m cross-eyed……LOL! I haven’t ever looked at the PAGEs census records. I just know that here in Gloucester IRL the blacks and whites spell their surnames different from each other.
Becky- I know it has been awhile since the thread was posted on- but I would love if you could send me any pictures of the Rosewell Site/and any Gravesite pictures with the last name “Page” I would love to see them..
My email is AnnaIsCuteInLV@aol.com
Thank You!
Anna
PS.. I got the video on Rosewell- I hope to visit in the near future-
For reasons that are fairly obscure (and have nothing to do with genealogy, Saponi or otherwise) I took about 20-30 color slides of the Rosewell ruins in 1968. Like most things I’ve had that long, they are buried in some box, but I could probably find them. Might be something there worth scanning and posting, I’m sure the place has gone downhill some more in the last 38 years. (I know I have.)
It was peaceful then, too — out in the middle of a peanut farm, I think. Or maybe it was beans. Anyway, I was there once with my brother-in-law and a baby blue jay lit on his shoulder. Got a photo of that, too. Pretty cool, in that he’s been a birder for most of his life.
I was looking in my garage for some other stuff (of course) and came across my old Rosewell slides, mentioned last fall in the previous message. One thing has led to another, and I’ve just signed a loan agreement and sent off thirty-eight 1968 photos to The Rosewell Foundation, for study by their “team of experts” (architectural historians, etc.).
This wouldn’t have happened if I hadn’t been following Saponitown discussions, and if Dreaminghawk hadn’t discussed Rosewell here. So I just mention it.
I found an interesting Page document in the Montgomery County Virginia courthouse last month – might fit in somewhere for someone.
Page vs. Hook
Verdict
listed in index as
1803 Nanny Page et al. vs. John Hook et al. Chancery #128 (loose papers files)
We find the plt was imported into the State of Virginia from Carolina by one Tho Jones in the year 1781 – that She was thin about 9 years old, We find that since that time She has born Seven children Viz David Cecilia Billy Danl Rachel Alex. – & Polly who are all now living & held as slaves by the Deft. We do not find that Tho Jones ever took the oath prescribed by the act of 1778 entitled an act for preventing the further importation of Slaves We find that the said Jones in the year 1787 became indebted to the Deft. J. Hook who levied an attachment on sundry property of the said Jones and among other articles taken in virtue of the said attachment the plt Nanny then 16 years old & her child David then about 3 months old were Seized & Sold together with the other articles of property for the sum of 8.19 lb & that the deft. Hook bought her & her child & the other property for that Sum – We find that Jones while the plt Nanny was in his possession & before he became indebted to the Def. Hook acknowledged her to be the child of a White woman, and that She was a bound girl, that previous to the plt being seized by the Defts attachment, Jones gave up to her a paper called her indentures & set her at liberty from further service
We find the pltfs are free persons,
We find the Deft. Guilty of the assault battery & false imprisonment in the declaration Complained of & assess their damages to Two hundred pounds
Wm McMallon or McMartin?
It didn’t say anything about the family being Indian or African-American, but since the document makes a point that Nanny’s mother was white, seems likely that her father wasn’t.
I don’t know any more about the case and I only copied the verdict. The index also listed at least one other suit that may be related (there may be more):
1804 Henry Page vs. John Hook et al. Common Law 380
I’m not sure this belongs here, but I wanted to put it somewhere Page researchers would see it…
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