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I thought I would move these posts over here, so as not to take over the other thread.
They originally came from Photos…have seen surnames on saponitown http://www.saponitown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3723
stacey.23 wrote: Hi Eleigh40,
What Cordell names are you researching?
I have a Cordell line that married into my Jones family in Greene County, Ohio. When I originally started searching my Jones line, I didn’t know where in Virginia they were from. Since the Jones surname is so common, I have traced some of the families that intermarried with them in hopes that they traveled from Virginia together. Anyway, I have info on some of the Cordell family from Lunenburg County to Gallia County to Greene and Clark Counties in Ohio. The last place I found them was in Darke County, Ohio.
Stacey
Eleigh40 wrote: Hi Stacey,
My ggrandmother was Augusta Cordell who was born in Greene Co., Ohio & married Hollie Nickens Jr. who was from Clark Co., Ohio. They settled down in Richmond, Indiana. Her father was Hubbard Cordell who was born about 1830 in Lunenburg, Virginia. He married Martha Ann Pearson in Greene Co., Ohio. I have a list of some of Hubbard’s siblings (all brothers) who were all from Lunenburg, Virginia but eventually settled in Greene, Darke & Clarke Counties of Ohio. There were a lot of Cordell’s who lived close to the Nickens family in Clarke County, Ohio in the late 1800s. We use to have family reunions together (The Nickens, Ward, Cordell & Brown Reunion) for many years however many have either passed away or moved out of state. We currently have the Nickens, Ward & Odom Reunion yearly where some of the remaining Cordell’s still attend.
I am interested in knowing which Cordell married into the Jones family because one of my great aunts may know of them. Any information is appreciated.
Thanks,
Ericka
stacey.23 wrote: Hi Erika,
Margaret Anna “Anna” Cordell married my 2GGrand-uncle, David Jones. Anna’s parents were Carter Cordell and Martha Unknown. I believe Carter (born about 1821 in Virginia) and Hubbard were brothers; as well as, Walker, Macklin, etc.
David and Anna moved just south of Dayton around West Carrollton / Miamisburg area sometime before the 1870 census.
I have also seen your Hubbard’s name as Herbert, which is also happens to be the same name as my 3GGrandfather and David Jones father.
I have a little bit of info on my familytreemaker page at:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/a/d/Stacey-Maddox-IN/
Stacey
Eleigh40 wrote: Stacey,
I know that we have family from the Cordell side who resided around the Dayton area. I will have to check with my mother and great aunt to see if they know the Jones family.
My grandmother know a lot about my grandfather’s family and she did keep in touch with many of the family but she passed away in 2006. The good thing is that she has documented a lot of information and I will go through what I have to see if I she has any information.
Ericka
Hi Erika,
Sorry for the late reply, but I do not have any of these marriages you mentioned in my Jones tree.
Levi A. Mason married Mary Ann Jones 22 Sep 1849 in Shelby Co., Ohio
Nathan Jones married Margaret Fox 02 Aug 1851 in Shelby Co., Ohio
Roy Jones married Edith Nickens – I am not sure of the date or place.
Stacey
I did find Macklin Cordell’s death record the other day. It says that his father is Zackaria Jones and his mother is Unknown Cordell. The informant was a W. A. Cordell from Selma. If you don’t already have a copy of this, let me know, and I will send it to you.
Stacey
Hi Stacey,
I do not have a copy of Macklin’s death certificate and I would love to get a copy of it. I did not attempt looking for any death certificates for the older Cordells using the film index search at the Ohio Historical Society. By the way – I do have records pertaining to Carter Cordell’s death. If you do not have it, I can send you the information. I also have a copy of the map of Selma, Ohio that shows where the Cordell’s property was during that time period (I believe the map was during the late 1800’s).
Our family travels through Selma, Ohio quite a bit because there is still a lot of kin that lives around that area. There is also a graveyard in Selma where a lot of family was buried. Unfortunately, some of the graveyard was vandalized so there are a lot of missing tombstones. Most of the information about the families in Selma are found in the South Charleston, Ohio newspaper.
Peace Stacey and Eleigh
Stacey, I am posting here because I saw one of your replies, and then it was gone, but I think it was this thread. Are you related to Surrell Jones, or know more about his siblings? I am, but not through one of the siblings listed by Heinegg.
Eleigh, Stewart is also one of my surnames. We’ll have to see if we connect.
Akhasa
Hi Akhasa,
I do not have a lot of information on my Stewart lineage. My ggggrandmother is Nancy Stewart and she married Richard Miles Dunstan on Feb 18, 1802 in Mecklenburg County, VA. That is all that I have for right now.
I am just learning about my Jones lineage thanks to Stacey. According to the death certificate of Macklin Cordell, his father was listed as Zacharia Jones – that would mean that he is my ggggrandfather. I also have a lot of other Jones in my lineage which I am just beginning to research.
Ericka
Hi Ericka,
I just sent Macklin’s death certificate to you. Let me know if you don’t receive it.
There is also a graveyard in Selma where a lot of family was buried.
If it is Bloxsam Cemetery, that is where Macklin’s death records said he is buried, too.
In regards to Carter’s death, the only thing I have is that he died while on fatigue duty Sept. 29, 1965 at Vicksburg, Mississippi of disease of the heart. If you have anything more, I would love to have it. I am still trying to figure out his wife Martha’s maiden name, too.
Stacey
Akhasa wrote: Peace Stacey and Eleigh
Stacey, I am posting here because I saw one of your replies, and then it was gone, but I think it was this thread. Are you related to Surrell Jones, or know more about his siblings? I am, but not through one of the siblings listed by Heinegg.
Eleigh, Stewart is also one of my surnames. We’ll have to see if we connect.
Akhasa
Hi Akhasa,
I don’t know. I can’t seem to get past my 3GGrandfather, Harvey Jones, born 1812. I am still trying to find his parents. I think Britton Jones may be a possible relative (grandfather, maybe?), which is what led me to the Surrell Jones. I was trying to look for the names of Britton’s children because Heinegg’s page does have some errors. It says that Winney is one of Britton’s daughters, when in fact she is a daughter-in-law and married to Benjamin.
Stacey
Hi Stacey,
Thanks for the death certificate. Now I know why I did not start searching for this record – I had a different date of death. I do not know where I got it but I see that it was wrong.
As for the cemetery – yes it is the Bloxom-Hopewell Cemetery. However, I forgot that a lot of Cordell’s were also buried at the Wilberforce Cemetery (which has no real records left or at least what we have been able to find thus far). Our great aunt (Marie Nickens-Tucker) told us that of Cordell’s were buried there. My cousin and I have been trying to locate records of the people who were buried there because there are virtually no tombstones left. We can prove that more people were buried there because we found some obituaries that state that fact. The last person to transcribe the tombstones only found four left and that was in the 1980s.
The cemetery sits on what is now Central State University. I do not know if any of your Jones ancestors may have been buried there but I do know that the Cordells owned a nice bit of land there.
I don’t know if you have been to the Greene County Archives or not but they have a lot of records on many families that moved to that area in the 1800s. There may be some information on your Jones line if they were actually living in Greene County.
As for Carter, it sounds like you have the same Civil War Documents that I have.
Eleigh40 wrote: I don’t know if you have been to the Greene County Archives or not but they have a lot of records on many families that moved to that area in the 1800s. There may be some information on your Jones line if they were actually living in Greene County.
Hi Ericka,
Yes, I have been to the Greene County Archives, but it has been a few years. (I keep a running list of things to look up when I get a chance to go to Ohio.) The Archives and the Xenia Library both have very nice set-ups. They have nice collections and they actually let you see the records first hand. And, the people I have dealt with in Xenia were all very nice and helpful.
Our local board of health won’t allow you to look at the records and they won’t make copies of them either. When I request death/birth records here, all I get is a typed copy of what they “think” the record says (and they charge you $7 for a typed copy). I have requested my great-grandfather’s death record twice. I thought I lost it the first time, but later found it and when I compared the two, the records had two different people listed for his father – a slight detail error when dealing with genealogy. :rolleyes:
I have also done a little bit of looking into Zachariah Jones and I am wondering if he and Zachariah Valentine aren’t one in the same??? Or, maybe Zachariah Valentine could be a grandfather???
Zachariah Valentine is listed with the Cordells on the Lunenburg County Free Negroes and Mulattos Register…
http://www.vagenweb.org/lunenburg/register.htm
[page 10 of 13]
Wyatt Cordle No. 101
Edwin Cordle No. 102
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Carter Cardle, about 22 years of age, 5 feet 5 inches high, his hair bushy, about his ears, born free in the County of Lunenburg, registered 13 September 1841. No. 108
Walker Cardle, about 21 years of age, his bushy hair about his ears, born free in the County of Lunenburg, registered 13 September 1841. No. 109
Zachariah Valentine, age about 74 years of age, dark brown complexion, the hair on his head and his beard grey, 5 feet 10 and three quarter inches high, born and ordered to be registered. No. 110
Maclen Cardle, about 16 years of age, yellow complexion, straight hair, about 5 feet 4 inches high, born free and ordered to be registered. No. 111
Herbert Cardle, about 14 years of age, yellow complexion, straight hair, 5 feet 5 inches high, he was born free and ordered to be registered. No. 112
Martha Ann Cardle, about 15 years of age, bright yellow complexion, 5 feet 2 inches high, she was born free, and ordered to be registered. No.113
Turner Cardle, about 12 years of age, yellow complexion. No. 114
This is what it says about him on Heinegg’s page (notice it also lists Cordells)…
http://www.freeafricanamericans.com/Tann_Viers.htm
i. Zachariah2, born about 1767, perhaps identical to Didimus Valentine who was taxable in Sarah’s household in 1786. He was taxable in Lunenburg County in 1793 to 1806 [Personal Property Tax List 1782-1806]. He was a shoemaker living at the head of Kettlestick in a list of “Free Negroes and Mulattos” in the lower district of Lunenburg County in Sarah Valentine’s household in 1802 and 1803 [LVA, Lunenburg County, Free Negro & Slave Records, 1802-1803] and was head of a Lunenburg County household of 8 “other free” in 1810 [VA:363]. In 1814 he was head of a household with Ritter Lester, Dolly Cordle, and Eddins Cordle [Magazine of Virginia Genealogy 33:268]. He registered as a free Negro in Lunenburg County in 1841: aged about 74 years of age, dark brown complexion, the hair in his head & his beard Grey, 5 feet Ten inches & three quarters high [WB 5, after page 89, no. 109].
I have a few other records regarding Zachariah Valentine that I will get typed up to send to you. With the holidays, it may take me a while, but if I forget, just send me an email or post a reminder on here.
Stacey
Hi Stacey,
I apologize for the delay in touch with you. I would love to see what you have on Zachariah Valentine. It would be great to find out if he was the father/grandfather of them. I will ask my great aunt if she has heard of the Valentine name before (since her mother was a Cordell she may have heard some stories).
I am glad that you have had the opportunity to go to Greene County to do some research. My cousin and I plan on getting back there as well as the Clark County Courthouse soon. One thing that we found out was that some records are held in Clark County because the county line seems to have changed throughout the years. By the way, the records held at the Clark County courthouse are not in order like Greene County. However, we found newspaper articles from the South Charleston, Ohio paper (which is in Clark County) that gives accounts of activities with various family members who lived in and around Selma.
We are able to get copies of death certificates from 1908-1954 for all counties at the Ohio Historical Society in Columbus for 25 cents a piece. There are other records on microfilm that you can get copies of as well. If you need any copies from Ohio just let me know and I will look it up (I live in Columbus and I am a member of OHS). You probably have already checked with the historical society there but I have found more information at the OHS than I have at any of the county board of health agencies throughout my home state.
I hope that you had a wonderful holiday season with your family and friends and I hope to hear from you soon.
Ericka
Eleigh40 wrote:
If you need any copies from Ohio just let me know and I will look it up (I live in Columbus and I am a member of OHS). You probably have already checked with the historical society there but I have found more information at the OHS than I have at any of the county board of health agencies throughout my home state.
Hi Ericka,
I wasn’t sure what you checked first here or your email. I just sent you an email with the Zacariah Jones – Zacariah Valentine information, so look for it there.
Thanks for the offer, if I think of any I will let you know. I haven’t had a chance to go to OHS yet, but have requested tons of death records from them.
Stacey
Hi Stacey,
I have received your email regarding Zacharia Valentine. I began looking into this and I have to agree with you about the name on Macklin’s death certificate. My cousin and I are planning a trip down to Gallia County next month to see if we can find any records pertaining to the Cordells at the court house/archives. I will be in touch with you if I get any information.
Thanks,
Ericka
Hi Ericka,
Good Luck in Gallia. According to the census records that I have on Carter Cordell’s family, they moved from Lunenburg Co., VA to Gallia Co., OH between 1841-1843. But, some of the other brothers may have moved as early as the late 1830’s.
I have a few marriage dates for the Cordells in Gallia County? Do you have these?
Also, did you know that your Hubbard Cordell’s first wife was Catherine Tyre? I found a death record for their son, Robert, and he married a Chavis.
Stacey
Hi Stacey,
I must say that you have a wealth of information on the Cordells that my cousin and I do not have. I have just checked with him and he was wondering who the 10 year old boy (Robert) was who was living with Hubbard and Martha in Greene County on the census record.:rolleyes: Thanks to you we now know.:D We knew that Martha was to young to have had Robert because of their ages according to the census, so we were wondering if he was a nephew or if Martha’s age was incorrect. Needless to say – I would love to have any additional information you have. It is much appreciated!
I am also contacting a cousin (Rita) who is the ggranddaughter to Macklin Cordell to share with her the death certificate you sent to me. I was looking through her information and noticed that she does not have any documentation of his death. She lives here in Columbus and she has quite a listing of information on relatives who married the children of Macklin Cordell (Macklin’s daughter married an Adams – she does most of her research on the Adams family but we have been collaborating with her on the Cordells). She is also one of the Cordell descendants who attends our annual family reunions.
Like I said above, you have a wealth of information that is answering a lot of questions that we have been looking for some time now. The Cordells have been (and still are in many ways) hard to figure out. I have gone through my grandmothers information and I am missing a lot of information from our family reunions from the past.
Thank you,
Ericka
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