[Ga-Nc Collins]

Rachel BUNCH was the wife of Joseph Collins when her father Henry BUNCH wrote his will in 1776 and is probably the mother of most of these children….

1. John Collins – m. Kerenhappuch WHITE; he died before 1791 when two sons were apprenticed out to learn trades in Bertie County, NC.
2. Josiah Collins, Sr. – see the next generation, section 3A.
3. Joab Collins – m. Zilpha, d. 1823 Tattnall County, GA.
4. David Collins – in Bertie County, NC in 1799
5. Jesse Collins – m. Sarah Moses KEEN, he d. 1842 Tattnall County, GA.
6. Henry Collins – m. Penelope BAZEMORE, he d. 1817 Tattnall County, GA.
7. Ann Collins – m. Edward WILSON
8. Joseph Collins, Jr. – see the next generation, section 3B.
9. Elizabeth Collins – m. Jonas SUMMERLIN
10. Willoughy Collins – m. Angelica BROWN, he d. before 1802.

Below is the Parents info for the above mentioned:

The birth year of John Collins is again an estimate based on a 1716 deed in Bertie County, NC. It is believed that John Collins married to Martha DEMPSEY, who is believed to be the mother of all of his children. John’s will written in 1749 does call his wife by name, but his estate papers in 1752 name his wife as “Mary” indicating a second marriage.

I want to add that Mary could be short for Martha.

Their children

John and Martha Collins are credited with ten children:

1. daugther Collins – married to George KEEN
2. Martha T. Collins – 1m. Edward BRYANT; 2m. Humphrey HARDY; her will went to probate in 1812 in Bertie County, NC.
3. David Collins –
4. William Collins – m. Margaret RHOADES, he died in Tyrrell County, NC in 1764.
5. Joseph Collins – see the next section (this is the Joseph from above).
6. John Collins – may be the John Collins granted land in Washington County, GA in 1784.
7. Michael/Miel Collins – b. by 1729, he died in 1799 in Nash County, NC.
8. Dempsey Collins – d. 1805 or 1810 in Marion District, SC.
9. Absalom Collins – was in Chowan County, NC by 1780.
10. Jesse Collins – was in Bertie Couty, NC in 1771.

[DCollins]

I have YDNA matches with 3 men who are decsendents of Henry BUNCH. We are haplotype E3a. Barak OBAMA is also related to Henry BUNCH, on his Mother’s side.

I have lots of research on this Henry BUNCH family, to find out where the NPE took place.

Don Collins

[Ga-Nc Collins]

wow cool Dcollins 🙂

[smparham]

Hi I am Shirley Parham, my ggg-grand father was Hiram Collins, youngest son of David and Thompsie Collins. A couple of years ago a cousin was researching death certs in Indiana and found out the Hiram’s wife Rebecca’s maiden name was Overton. This was listed on their son George Hastings Collins death Cert. On a earlier message someone mentioned that a Mary Overton had married a Collins. Could they be sisters?? And does anyone know anything about the Overtons?

[Nannanae]

Drew Blattner;23057 wrote: I would like to know how exactly David Collins is Saponi. I keep reading that he is a Saponi, however I have yet to see any evidence that he is or how he is. I assume he is a mixed blood, because I have the Collins family going back to England. I always figured the Collins family was Scots-Irish, but everything I have found indicates English. Was David’s mother Martha Demsey a full blood Saponi? Is that how he has Saponi blood? Or is the Saponi from his father John Collins Sr., further back down the line- perhaps his mother- Elizabeth Unknown who married William Collins? Or perhaps William’s mother Lucee who married James Collins? Did David Collins mary a Saponi- Thompsey Posting? Did David’s son Aaron marry a Saponi- Mary Nuklas? Did Aaron’s son Stephen marry a Saponi- Mary Long? Did Stephen’s son Stephan Jr. “Babe” Collins marry a Saponi- Sarah E.? Babe’s daughter Mary Jane Collins married Charles Elmer “Buck” Porter- does anyone know of any of his ancestory at all? I have heard many theories but I am really just trying to get to the bottom of the bloodlines. I would like to know what percentage of Native American- Saponi the decendants would be, what,if any percentage Mulungeon, or African, and what percentage European, and whether it is English, Scots-Irish, Portuguese or whatever. I know I have lots of questions, and I have lots more, but I also have some information that I would be willing to share with whomever. If you can answer any of the above questions please do. I have worked on my and my fiance’s genealogy daily for years now and am really getting anxious at getting to the bottom of who and what we are. I have always suspected that she has Native blood, as all from that side of her family look very Native, although there has never been any evidence, only rumors of Native American, Spanish, or African blood. All the other sides of her family look very Northern European with blue eyes and light hair. However, the Collins-Porter side and ALL the decendants thereafter have brown eyes and brown or black hair, with a darker complextion. Please, any information will be helpful.

Thank you,

Drew Blattner

I do not know if this will answer your questions or not .. but here is a try!

well if you are expecting little chinese “indians” well .. no there wasn’t many of them if any.

but if you really want to know who and what north american native people really were as best as I can remember anyway..

you might wish to wrap your head around this. 150+ pages of goofy and great links with clues hidding in them.

http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?nav=messages&webtag=ab-archaeology

go to the Levallois in the USA thread and be sure to follow all of the links.

like cosmicTusk and especailly about the Alleg=Allegewi

and yes I am Nannanae there too.

I am also a decendant of David 1750.

his daugher Jemina married a grandson of Shoeboots AKA Turtle at home.. son of Ollie Nionee and Attakullkulla. Ollie Nionee is my grandma many times and may be my direct grandmother or aunt . that is yet to be confirmed by dna .

Jamima Collins daughter is my great grandma and where I got my stories from abt 40 years ago .

Jemina mother was a Hopkins and some kind of descendant of one of pocohants sisters, as best I remember and she was saponi indian also… dont’ know how exactly.

yes they were “indians” and they were all kinds of mixed up with some other tribes here and there because of all of the displacements.

you are asking to much for the times and abilities of peoples memories.. dang.

anyway that web site should help you figure out … or at least get a clue about who is really indigenous to north america and what it all really is about.

and yes I am ‘nannanae’ or Nan there . Nae every where else.

I think grandma called the” giants” ” the old ones” or something like that .. that I am not possitive about it.

yes Ollie was ALLEG AS WAS some of GRANDMA’s SAPONI RELATIONS!

now go check out Caral in south america and look at the newest finds of figurines with turbins!

and read everything you can about Waadaabe and Guanches for clues to our most ancient traditions.

so science isn’t even close to figuring out what really happened here. if you are looking for chinese and chinese genes or some other scientific junk science as Proof of indian blood .. you wont’ find them in real saponi’s .

in the mean time the Science has helped built and promoted a stereotype that is false and gives a very false impression of who is native and who isn’t. they want to see chinese so they see chinese..

believe your family and mine or believe science …

but me and my house , we’re going with eye witnesses and recorded history!!!!.

chicken little

4 times( that I know of) granddaughter of OLDCock..aka Shoeboots aka Turtle at home.

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