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April 13, 2004 at 6:46 pm #934
Bill, do you have any ideas about who this Collins belongs to?
[John Davis born abt 1732 married a widow named Jemima Collins, Jefferson by birth. They had three sons; Robert, Thomas and William, of Albemarle Co VA who later lived in Logan Co WVA and Pike Co KY abt 1800. These three sons claimed to be first cousins to President Thomas Jefferson. There are no documented children of President Jefferson, or his father Peter, or his father’s only brother Field, named Jemima. Does anyone know who Jemima’s deceased husband Collins was?
On the first list of titheables, Pittsylvania Co VA 1767 there is a George Jefferson who has John Davis as overseer. Also on his list are Daniel, William, and Samuel Collins. Does anyone know who the families of these Collins men were? ]
April 13, 2004 at 6:46 pm #9470Re: the 1767 Pitts. Co Tithables list for George Jefferson and John Davis & William Roberts, there are a number of entries associating some of them….
From “Order Entry Book 1737 to 1770” (combined for the western area of Brunswick Co., and containing the present counties of Halifax, Pitts., Henry, Franklin & Patrick):
Nov.16, 1746: (“surv.d by R.W.” (I think prob. Robert Walton) Peter JEFFERSON, Charles LYNCH & Ambrose Joshua SMITH enter’d by Order Council dated 5th May 1741. rec.d by Surv.r 5th Aug. same Year for 15,000 Acres Land joyning the Lines of a tract lately granted to Wm. RANDOLPH Esqr., John HARMER and Walter KING extending towards the Branches of the Fluvanna under the Blue Mountains.
(Wm. Randolph is the guy who, with John Harmer & Walter King, claimed 24,000 acres in 1738 on the branches of the Roanoke River from Wart Mtn extending Northwest and North under the Blue Ridge of Mountain’s.)
The rest will only raise more questions……
Oct.14, 1747: William KING 400 ac on Smiths Creek joyning a survey of John DAVIS’s suppos’d likewise to be on D.S.(Stith’s) book. (There are also entries for Baxter Davis & Edward Davis in 1747.)
Oct.14, 1747: Gibby BUNCH 200 ac joyning the above entry of KING’s and the Country line. (Country line = Colonial boundary?)
Nov.3, 1747: Will: Abbot 350 ac joyning his own, JEFFERSONs and HOWARDs lines. (“Abbot” may be a misspelled “about”, but it doesn’t make much sense either way.)
Nov.3, 1747: George KING 400 ac joyning John DAVISs own line.
Nov.10, 1747: George KING enters 400 joyning his own and Capt. JEFFERSON’s line.
Feb.15, 1753: William ROBERTS 400 ac Ld on Turkey Cock beginning on READs line next to Sandy River. Transf.d to Geo. JEFFERSON.
Mar.7, 1763: John DAVIS 400 ac beg. at Reads Cor. on Turkeycock exten.g down the Mountain for Qty. Transfer’d to Geo. JEFFERSON.
Apl.8, 1767: George JEFFERSON 400 ac on the Brs. of Turkey Cock Cr. and Sandy Rr. beg. at his own & JONES’s Cor. White Oak th.e along their lines & off.
So, maybe Peter Jefferson did have another son or there were two Peter Jefferson’s in the same time frame or Peter and the later George Jefferson weren’t related at all. I’ll keep my eyes open as I go thru this Order Entry Book.
Regarding the Collins guys at George Jefferson’s, there is an entry I cited for Joseph COLLINS in Feb.1745/6 for 150 acres on Panther Cr. but I haven’t had time yet to look up all the Panther Crk entries, but plan to look them up and post them.
By The Way, a Valentine GIBSON moved into the Cascade Crk area in this time frame and I plan to post his neighbors soon.
On Apl.18, 1767, William MORADITH enters 400 Ac. on a br. of Great Marrowbone Cr. beg. at a Beach Tree Mark’t WM 1767 th.e up the sd br. on both sides & extending westwardly. ( a later entry of 400 Ac. borders on Randolph’s Line, putting this Wm Moradith in the area of Jefferson, Roberts and Davis? Gonna look closer….)
On Apl.23, 1769, Jas. MERREDITH: 400 ac. beg. at SHELTON’s Uper Cor. extending on the brs. of Leatherwood Crk & COPLANDs Lines.
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Bill
April 13, 2004 at 6:46 pm #9472Some more on George Jefferson in Southern Va.:
(no mention of any Collins’s, I’ll rout’ around for them.)
From Genealogies of Virginia Families, Vol. III, “The Jefferson Family of Pittsylvania Co., Pa.”, p.159:
“Communicated by Mrs. N.E. CLEMENT, Chatham, Va.
In number 3 of Vol. XXII., in an account of the ALLEN family, mention is made of the marriage of Elizabeth ALLEN to Field Jefferson, mother of Col. Peter Jefferson, of Albermarle. Field Jefferson’s will dated 1762, is filed at Mecklenburg Courthouse, and in it he names four sons, viz.: Thomas, Peter Field, GEORGE and John.
George Jefferson patented large bodies of land in Pittsylvania County, a part of which he later sold to his brother Peter Field.
In the first lists of tithables taken in Pittsylvania County we find,
“List of Tithables taken by George Jefferson in Pittsylvania County, Camden Parish, Year 1767.”
In list occurs following items:
George Jefferson (Mecklenburg)
John Davis, Overseer, and negroes (towit),
Sam, Chance, Pompey, Phillis, Pal and Sary.
Tithes 7.
Land Acres. 8000.
In May, 1774, George Jefferson, of Lunenburg, sells to Peter Field Jefferson, of Mecklenburg, for L.120, 409 acres on Turkey Cock Creek, Pittsylvania Co.
For L.60, 321 acres on Sailor’s Creek, Pittsylvania Co.
For L.500, 1005 acres on Turkey Cock Creek, Pittsylvania.
Again in 1776, he sells him 140 acres in Pittsylvania. Peter Field Jefferson must have soon after this removed to Pittsylvania County to live, for in 1779, we find him selling 380 acres for L.350 to Elisha Walker, and in the deed giving his place of residence as Pittsylvania County. There is no will of Peter Field Jefferson recorded in Pittsylvania, but there is one of his wife Mrs. Elizabeth Jefferson, dated 1828.”
George Jefferson married Elizabeth Garland on July 2, 1764 in Lunenburg Co., Va. They moved to Anson Co., NC in 1777 and George died in 1780 Richmond Co., NC. His Will names four sons:
Peter (m’d Martha Russell 1804 Lunenburg Co – 2nd?), George, John Garland (moved to Amelia Co.) and Samuel. George Sr. deeded land on 29 Sept 1779 to Peter Jefferson.
There is a Jefferson line in Maryland in the 1750’s, Henry Jefferson having died in the period of 1751-56, the appraisal listing “Next of Kin: John Jefferson, George Jefferson.”
That Will lists the Surety as William COLLINSON, with Henry’s wife Elizabeth having previously died.
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