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December 17, 2003 at 5:58 am #795
Hello,
Being here feels like coming home after a long journey ….
Family stories passed down said we
were Blackfoot, but have never been able to trace it..My
GGgrandfather Laben Day b. 1804 in Warren County, KY and married Elzady White b. abt. 1818 in NY.. they ended up in IL.
What’s funny is I had given up hope of ever finding anything
out..then my 10 y/o GRANDson spent the weekend with us and informed us that he had found a site at school that said anyone with Day name among others could possibly be BLACKFOOT..so that sent me on a searchand found the yahoo forum and through Linda here…thank goodness.
My DAY family (mtrs side) had the prettiest blackest hair, both men and women. My grandfather DAY moved to AR in the early 1900’s and hunted and fished. He died when I was 12. He taught me how to fish and how to hunt. He and My grandmother lived off the land…she raised garden and chickens and he along with the fishing and hunting, raised livestock…they taught me many things about the earth and living simply. I ache for those times. By modern standards they/we were considered poor, but we were happy people. I would not trade my childhood with them for anything. I could run a creekbank, fish, hunt, swing on grapevines, and just enjoy the earth…sit out at night in the fields and watch the fireflies magic. I learned how to plant by the moon. Family letters tell of his mother who would get up on Good Friday, not speak to anyone until she had planted her cucumber seeds…my family always had the most beautiful gardens. My mtr is 75 ,the last living of her family and still plants a 1/2 acre garden, tends her orchard, and teaches her ggrandkids names of trees/birds.
My mother said her father said one of his grandmtrs or g
grandmtrs were Blackfoot..but we’ve never been able to find the tie that binds…her father Bert’s father James Andrew Day was born in Gibson County, Indiana 1844, he married Cassander Woods who was born there also. James father, (Labon, Labern, Labau,Laban) Day (note the different spellings handed down and also found in census)(couldn’t read or write) was born around 1804 in Warren County, KY ..he married Elzady White b abt 1818 in either NY/no other info on her.. That’s as far as I can get…
Cassander’s father was John Woods b.abt 1805..we think came from around Fellsburg, PA then thru Muhlenburg,KY then to Posey and Gibson Counties, IN. Her mother, Mahala Harris, (ftr Richard Harris) came from NC married Jane/?/ from SC..lived in SC briefly then to Muhlenberg, KY, to Posey County,IN….
I have hope now to continue the search, although if I never find it, like someone else on this forum stated, I don’t have to prove it…I already know it…
…thank you for this forum…I’ve read much history here already, which is beyond my expectations, but even more so the natives here are such kindred spirits.
Marla
December 17, 2003 at 5:58 am #8438Marla, Welcome to the forum. I know that you will enjoy it as much as I have. I have two of your mentioned surnames…..DAY & WOOD.
My Day line connects to my mother’s Cottrill line out of northern West Virginia. I don’t know much about them so perhaps we can learn together.
6. CALVIN C.4 COTTRILL (RICHARD3, ANDREW2, UNKNOWN1) was born 1815, and died 1891. He married (1) LYDIA DAY. He married (2) ELIZABETH DAY 1840 in Harrison Co. WV.
Children of CALVIN COTTRILL and ELIZABETH DAY are:
12. i. CALVIN JR.5 COTTRILL, b. 1835; d. November 09, 1921, Doddridge Co. WV.
ii. ADELINE EMILY J. COTTRILL, b. 1844.
iii. JOHN COTTRILL, b. 1847.
12. CALVIN JR.5 COTTRILL (CALVIN C.4, RICHARD3, ANDREW2, UNKNOWN1) was born 1835, and died November 09, 1921 in Doddridge Co. WV. He married MINERVA DAY. She was born 1840.
Calvin & Manerva were the parents of daughters that both married Edward BENNETT and lived along the PA/WV border in Taylor Co.WV.
The WOOD(s) line connects to my William Taylor line.Margaret Wood(s) married Eli Taylor and raised a large family in the Greenbrier/Nicholas County WV area.
3. ELI3 TAYLOR (DANIEL2, WILLIAM1) was born 1776 in Augusta Co. Va., and died Aft. 1840 in Nicholas Co. WV. He married MARGARET WOODS 1800 in Greenbrier Co. Va., daughter of STEPHEN WOODS and NANCY. She was born 1784 in Greenbrier Co. Virginia, and died Aft. 1860 in Nicholas Co. WV.
December 17, 2003 at 5:58 am #8441Thank you for the beautiful words, Marla. I’m glad you found your way here. It means a lot to know you appreciate what we’ve built here.
December 17, 2003 at 5:58 am #8443Howdy ==
Linda saw this post and asked me to respond — I have Wood/s ancestors in Gibson County, Indiana.
I know I said I wasn’t gonna post for a while — had nothing to do with anyone but me — I just felt it was takin’ more time that I had — I needed to just get away and “reflect”, if that means anything. 🙂
John Richey married Mary “Polly” Wood August 8, 1817 in Gibson County, Indiana. Mary was the daughter of John Woods and Mary (maiden name Dickson) Woods. John Richey was born 1797 in Virginia. Mary Woods was born 1796 in Tennessee. They arrived in Indiana in 1806. There is a “John Woods” and wife listed in 1820 census Gibson County, both 18-26 years old. 2 doors down is Joseph L. Woods household contaicting of female over 45, male 26-45, female 18-26, 2 males 10-16, male and 2 females under 10.
On same census is Gideon Richey (apparently John’s brother) (301;001 — blacksmith — 1-10, 10-18, 18-26, 26-45, over 45) who also married a Woods girl. Vincent Woods (2001;0001), Isaac Woods (2201;2001). Now all of these Woods and Richeys are on only 2 pages of teh census, which means they were probably pretty close neighbors.Interesting it says Gideon richey was a blacksomth. Dad told me his grandpa (Jeffrey Hoten Richey) was a blacksmith. this Gideon was most likely his grandpa’s brother, and Gideon’s wife was his grandma’s sister.
I have more about these people but right now I can’t find it. When I do I’ll post it. Mary (Polly) Woods father or grandfather (I think it was her father) fought in the Revolutionary War and was discharged at Fort Pitt in 1783. Afterwards he moved to Holston area of NE Tn. In 1806 they movd to Gibson County, Indiana. I don’t know where he was before 1783 I don’t think, but I might have something written down somewhere. Seems like he was in Va or WVa area tho, but I might be wrong about that. Also I have more information about the Woods family in Indiana, but right now I’m not sure where it is. I’ll find it tho.
John Richey moved from Indiana to Arkansas in 1844. His son Joseph married Sarah Ann Wayland, whose family went from Russell/Scott Co., Virginia to Arkansas in 1815. Sarah was descended from Nevil Wayland whose wife — we are pretty sure now, was Kezziah Gibson. They went from Va to NC/SC border after revolutionary War and returned to SW corner of Va in the 1790s.
vance
December 17, 2003 at 5:58 am #8446Hi Marla,
Hope I can help a little with the DAYs.
(James A.-7, Laban-6, Laban-5, Laban-4, John-3, Nicholas jr-2, Nicholas Sr-1, b.1620 Wales.)
The Laban (“Labourn”) DAY of 1810 Warren Co., Ky must be a Laban “Senior”. That household contained
4 males under 10 yrs old. (Mark, Laban Jr., John & prob. James)
1 male 26 to 44. (Laban Sr.)
2 females under 10.
1 female 26 to 44. (Betsey?)
On 1820 Gibson Co., Ind Census, Laban Sr.’s household contained
2 males under 10.
3 males 10 to 15.
1 male 16 to 25.
1 male 26 to 44.
3 females under 10.
1 female 10 to 15.
1 female 16 to 25.
1 female 26 to 44.
……………..
Laban Sr is missing from the 1830 Gibson Co Census.
p. 163 = Mark DAY,
1 male 20 to 29. (Mark = Markrum)
1 female under 5.
1 female 30 to 39.
p.165 = Betsey DAY (This may be Laban Sr’s widow.)
2 males 10 to 14.
3 males 20 to 29. (Laban jr among them.)
2 females 5 to 9.
1 female 10 to 14.
3 females 15 to 19.
2 females 20 to 29.
1 female 50 to 60.
Laban DAY married Elzady WHITE on Dec 23, 1830 in Gibson Co., Ind., per Indiana State Library’s Marriage Record Database Index.
1840 Gibson Co., Ind Census, Patoka Twp, p.32:
Laban DAY
household contains
1 male 5 to 9.
1 male 30 to 39.
1 female 5 to 9.
1 female 20 to 29.
Also in 1840 Gibson Co., Ind :
Markrum DAY
1 male 30 to 39.
1 female 10 to 14.
1 female 30 to 39.
1 female 90 to 99 (prob. incorrect, may be Betsey.)
Levi DAY
2 males 20 to 29.
1 female 20 to 29.
1 female 40 to 49.
………………
On the 1850 Gibson Co., Ind Census, p.114B, at 120, 120 :
Laban DAY, 46, m, farmer, $0, KY.
Alzada, 32, f, NY.
Sarah, 12, f, Ind.
JAMES A., 7, f, Ind.****
Lydia A., 4, f, Ind.
Margaret, 6 months, f, Ind.
Alzada I., 9, f, Ind.
(Alzada/Elzady was probably b. Penn., not in NY – I’ll come back to the WHITEs later.)
So, this Laban, b.1804, can’t be the head of the 1820 Gibson Co household – he must (?) be one of the sons of Laban DAY “Sr”, who may have been a Junior himself.
On the 1800 Burke Co., NC census, p.741, (in western NC)
Laban DAY,
1 male 26 to 44. (Laban of Warren Co., KY?)
1 male over 45. (also a Laban)
1 female 10 to 15.
Also there in 1800, are
Nicholas, over 45 yrs old.
James, over 45.
John, over 45.
Thomas Sr., over 45.
Thomas Jr., 16 to 25.
Edward, 16 to 25.
William, 25 to 44.
(Nicholas, John, James & an Edward are listed as brothers of a Laban Day, b.1755-60, in Burke Co., NC.
With a couple of “ifs”…..
This older Laban was born abt 1755-60 Burke Co., (then Rowan Co.), NC.
(At least one researcher thinks Laban was b. Baltimore Co., Md, but his parents were married in SC and 2 of his older brothers were alledged to have been b. Burke Co, so he probably was too.)
Laban married Mary McKENSEY abt. 1793 Burke Co., NC, per World Family Tree, Vol.5, Ed. 1, but this shouldn’t necessarily be treated as gospel because it may be the result of someone’s possibly undocumented assertion. Might be good, tho.
The parents of Laban, b.abt. 1755-60, are
John Day, christened 6 Sep 1716 St. John’s Parish, Baltimore Co., Md (some claim Talbot Co, on the eastern shore of Md), d. abt. 1790 Burke Co., NC. (John also had a brother named Laban, b.1725/26.)
John married abt. 1744 Edgefield District, SC, Isabell BLAIR, b.abt. 1720 Edgefield Dist, SC, d/o James Blair & Mary COLBERT, b.Md.
Some Blairs of this era and later, were of Indian descent and related to Blount, Blevin, Brock, Isbell & Wilburn families, also of Indian descent.
John Day’s parents are documented by christening records as
Nicholas Day Jr, b. May 1685 or 1688, in Ann Arundel Co., Md, d. 1739; married 14 Jul 1709 Baltimore Co., Md., Elizabeth Cox, b.abt. 1688 Baltimore Co., Md., dau of Christopher Cox II, b. 1660 Baltimore Co (?) and Mary Symons, b. 1658 (?) Baltimore Co.
Nicholas Day jr’s parents are documented thru christening records as Nicholas Day Sr., b. abt. 1620 Wales, d. 1704 Baltimore Co., Md; married Sarah (Lowe?), b.?, d. 1736 Baltimore Co.
You can flesh this out, check the available documentation, draw your own conclusions, etc., by emailing Christy Powell at cp6862@msn.com .
Bill
December 17, 2003 at 5:58 am #8447Marla,
There are 5 WHITE households in 1830 Gibson Co, the year Elzady m’d Laban Day. Two households contained young females. One was “under 5”. The other female is marrying age :
Ezekiel White’s household contained:
2 males under 5.
1 male 15 to 19.
1 male 30 to 39.
1 female 15 to 19. **** (must be her)
1 female 30 to 39.
On the 1840 census, she’s shown as 20 to 29, reconcilible with the 1830 age shown. I think her age shown on the 1850 census as 32, is incorrect. If she were born about 1818, she would have been about 12 when she m’d in 1830. She must have been born between 1811 and 1815. I’ll look her up on later census and see what they show.
Bill
December 17, 2003 at 5:58 am #8448Bill, In Day information, surnames “Colbert” and “Blair” were interestin’. Some Blairs are related to Sequoyah. If you visit the site of his cabin near Sallisaw, Ok there is a little graveyard out front of it and it’s full of Blairs, mostly.
John Logan Colbert was a Tory born in scotland. In the revolutionary War, and was a go between — he travelled to Pensacola and Mobile bay to get ammunition for Dragging Canoe and brought it up to East Tennessee. Once he couldn’t go through Creek nation so he went through teh Choctaw adn Chickasaw nations, up to Muscle Shoals, Alabama, then up the Tennessee River to the Chickamauga towns. well he married a Chickasaw girl and was father to several Chickasaw Chiefs. Two of Doubleheads daughters married George Colbert as both lived at/near Muscle Shoals from the 1790s on. And Doublehead was Sequoyah’s Uncle. Some of my ancestors (Browns and Guesses) were living on the Tennessee River near there in 1820s.
I know this cause my family leased land from a Colbert in the Chickasaw Nation in Indian territory, aka Oklahoma so I looked into the name. Some Colberts were their “rich” neighbors in the 1890s, so I researched them. And great great grandma was a “Guess” (Hariet Guess, wife of David Brown, father of Josephine Brown, mother of Loney richey, mother of A. O. Hawkins, who was my father).
I think I am related to Marla’s Woods family, too. It might be a coincidence, tho, I don’t know.
vance
December 17, 2003 at 5:58 am #8451Bill,
I can’t believe the DAY/WHITE census info you’ve just shared with me! I am so very very grateful. It will take me some time to digest it all.
Apparently there were many more DAY men and women from Laben Sr. and Jr. than I realized. Am trying to go through and get a sense of the sons and daughters and the years.
I think the FTM info actually came from me by mistake…I had emailed a contact with the Mary McKensie line theory a few years back and they included it as hard fact…from that point on I knew family files on FTM might not be accurate…so I really appreciate the census info you posted.
I found this post on the genforum after reading the WHITE info you posted. Have emailed her today..will see if this is same WHITEs. THe years don’t match though. Interestingly, Laben and Elzady had a dtr named Lydia & a son named James:
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“I am looking for information on Ezekiel (Ezekial) White of Gibson Co., Indiana, who was born about 1790 in Vermont. His wife’s name was Lydia, also b. about 1790 in Vermont. They had a son, James Madison White, who was born about 1811 in New York. The family came to Gibson Co., IN, before 1820. Other children were Belden b. abt 1826, Horace b. abt. 1829, and Elizabeth b. abt. 1832.
There may be a Canadian connection. Ezekiel’s grandson James Dixon White told later census-takers that his father was born in Montreal, Canada. Although this appears to be incorrect, it may indicate a family story about Canadian origins.
I would so much appreciate any info!
Rebecca”
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Bill, you have my sincere appreciation for helping me find my family. don’t know how to tell how much it means to me.My DAY/WHITE family line is where I started and have never been able to find many family members to share info with. Now I know there are many more out there somewhere. THANK YOU!
Vance,
I live in Arkansas, NE corner. Have you ever had contact with Robert Vance Woods? He has been researching the WOODS line for over 30 years….we’re both descending from the John Woods who married Mahala Harris. I have looked at what I have, and haven’t found any RICHEYs, but he may have….if you will email me, I will send you his contact info. . This is my WOODS info:John SR is where we’re stuck.
1 John Sr Woods 1805 – 1858
.. +Mahala Harris 1815 – 1874
married August 23, 1838, Posey County, IN
……… 2 Stephen Harris Woods 1839 – 1862
…………. +Nancy Ellen Skelton 1842 – 1896
……………….. 3 James Robert Woods 1862 – 1940
…………………… +Anna Caroline MC CLEARY 1863 – 1954
……… 2 William James Woods 1840 – 1915
…………. +Elizabeth FOLKNER 1848 – 1890
……………….. 3 James William Woods 1867 – 1951
…………………… +Flora CORDEA 1867 –
……………….. 3 Melissa Jane Woods 1870 –
…………………… +Francis (FRANK) Warren 1872 –
……………….. *2nd Husband of Melissa Jane Woods:
…………………… +Robert WALLIS
……………….. 3 John F Woods 1872 – 1892
……………….. 3 Van Ransler Woods 1874 – 1890
……………….. 3 Mary E Woods 1880 – 1883
……………….. 3 CARRIE Elizabeth Woods 1883 – 1906
……… *2nd Wife of William James Woods:
…………. +Miriam Watkins
……… 2 Mary Jane Woods 1842 –
…………. +William N Tribble 1837 – 1869
……………….. 3 George L Tribble 1862 –
……………….. 3 James W Tribble 1866 –
……………….. 3 Rosetta Tribble 1869 –
……… *2nd Husband of Mary Jane Woods:
…………. +Eli D Bryant 1830 –
……………….. 3 Andrew Bryant
……………….. 3 Sylvester Bryant
……………….. 3 Margaret Bryant
……… 2 Cassander Woods 1844 – 1897
…………. +James Andrew Day 1844 – 1914
……………….. 3 Mahala Frances “Halie” Day 1867 –
……………….. 3 Alzada Day 1871 – 1880
……………….. 3 David Day 1875 – 1880
……………….. 3 Nettie Viola Day 1878 –
……………….. 3 Burtis Edgar Day 1883 – 1965
…………………… +Lovena Francis Bradford
……… 2 Richard Woods 1846 – 1851
……… 2 Isaac H Woods 1847 –
…………. +Mary C GORMAN 1850 –
……………….. 3 Stephen Harrison Woods 1874 –
…………………… +BERTHA MARVEL 1882 –
……………….. 3 Elmer Woods 1876 – 1906
…………………… +Ellen WILHITE 1874 – 1899
……………….. 3 Elizabeth Woods 1877 –
…………………… +William Woods
……… 2 Eliza M Woods 1847 – 1923
…………. +Robert Alexander Skelton 1828 – 1895
……………….. 3 MADORRA Ellen Skelton 1869 – 1950
…………………… +Frank COOPER
……………….. 3 Noretta Ann Skelton 1871 – 1914
…………………… +George KIRKPATRICK
……………….. 3 John Robert Skelton 1875 – 1877
……………….. 3 James Landers Skelton 1878 – 1899
……………….. 3 Susan Melvina Lee Skelton 1880 –
…………………… +ELGAT COOPER
……………….. 3 Mary Elizabeth Skelton 1887 – 1962
…………………… +ARTHUR CONNELL WALLACE 1886 – 1926
……… 2 Sylvester Woods 1849 –
…………. +Nancy M Tichenor 1839 – 1886
……… *2nd Wife of Sylvester Woods:
…………. +Eliza DOWNS 1851 –
……………….. 3 Bessie Woods 1894 – 1974
…………………… +CAMP
……………….. *2nd Husband of Bessie Woods:
…………………… +Thomas SAVELEY
……… *3rd Wife of Sylvester Woods:
…………. +[1] Elizabeth Ellen Tichenor 1861 – 1927
……… 2 Richard Woods 1851 – 1915
…………. +[1] Elizabeth Ellen Tichenor 1861 – 1927
……………….. 3 Dora Mae Woods 1880 – 1908
…………………… +HARRY E WILHITE
……………….. *2nd Husband of Dora Mae Woods:
…………………… +Adam KROHN 1871 –
……………….. 3 Oscar McClellan Woods 1885 – 1932
…………………… +ZELLA A PARRISH
……………….. 3 Sylvester Woods 1888 – 1965
…………………… +Hester Anna FAIR 1889 – 1953
……………….. 3 James Edgar Woods 1895 – 1916
……… 2 Elnora Woods 1853 – 1905
…………. +Reuben David Hopkins 1834 – 1900
……………….. 3 Ralph Hopkins – 1900
……………….. 3 Charles E Hopkins 1876 – 1894
……………….. 3 Myra Grace Hopkins 1879 – 1901
…………………… +Albert P Jones 1868 –
……………….. 3 Edith Hestira Hopkins 1881 – 1907
…………………… +Henry LAWRENCE SHARP 1884 –
……………….. 3 Amy Agnes Hopkins 1883 –
…………………… +Jesse Elmer Williams 1878 –
……………….. 3 Ruby Hopkins 1885 –
…………………… +CARL Cleveland
……………….. 3 Pearl Hopkins 1889 –
…………………… +BENTON Monroe GOAD 1886 –
……… 2 Van Ransler Woods 1855 – 1932
…………. +Mary C. Rebecca ‘Mollie’ Calvin 1857 – 1928
……………….. 3 Alfred W Alfred Woods 1877 –
……………….. 3 Cora R ‘Ish’ Woods 1879 – 1942
…………………… +Clarence R Satter
……………….. 3 Anna Louise ‘Annie’ Woods 1881 – 1958
…………………… +Samuel KLUMP SCHRYVER
……………….. *2nd Husband of Anna Louise ‘Annie’ Woods:
…………………… +ROY ETNA GRANTHAM
……………….. 3 Ernest O ‘Earnie’ Woods 1885 – 1933
…………………… +JOSIE McCOLE 1891 – 1976
……………….. 3 Frank Woods 1887 –
…………………… +BEULAH
……………….. 3 Helen Onie Woods 1891 – 1969
…………………… +Charles S McCLENDON 1892 – 1951
……… 2 Margaret Woods 1858 – 1891
…………. +ORLANDO Gooch 1858 – 1929
……………….. 3 Ethel B Gooch 1879 – 1964
…………………… +THEODORE JULIAN Martin 1862 –
……………….. 3 Alba S Gooch 1882 –
…………………… +Joseph P Monroe BILDERBACK
……………….. 3 Homer Hayward Gooch 1884 – 1968
…………………… +Eva Lou Scott 1889 – 1974
……………….. 3 Etra Dale Gooch 1889 – 1978
…………………… +Ernest H. RICHARDSON
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………Happy/Safe Holidays to everyone on the forum.
Marla
December 17, 2003 at 5:58 am #8452found it
This was obtained from Dallas Public library (tx)
Indiana Marriages, early to 1825, on page 256
Richie, Gideon. Woods, Nancy. MD [married] 17 May 1816, Gibson [Co, In.]
Richie, John. Woods, Polly. MD 8 Aug, 1817. Gibson
That is the grooms listing but they are also listed in the brides, so they appear under Richey and under Woods.
John had a son named Gideon — this is why I think John and Gideon Richey were brothers. I also think Nancy and Polly/Mary were sisters. Some relative dug but I probably have the source written somewhere but right now I don’t even remember where I got it — I knw I didn’t find it but a relative did — but which one I don’t know off the top of my head, that John Woods married Nancy Dickson and that they are Mary (Polly) Woods parents.
His son Gideon B. Richey married Lucinda Wood (no “s” at the end of the name, but that might still be from the same family) February 25th, 1840, Gibson Co. Indiana. He had a second wife who he also married in Gibson Co., Indiana in 1842, so his marriage to Lucinda either didn’t last long or perhaps she died, I don’t know what hapened. Thre is a “Lucinda Richey” in Lawrence County, Arkansas later who married a “Wayland” (several of my Richey’s married Waylands).
http://www.migrations.org/individual.php3?record=1639
http://www.couchgenweb.com/family/richey.htm
Here are a couple of places online that mention John Richey/Mary (Polly) Woods marriage.
So I have 3 Richey/Woods marriages.
Please let me get in touch with your friend who has researched this — maybe we can help each other. I am vance hawkins, vhawkins@pacer.com.
y Waylands were in NE Ar as early as 1815 but the Richeys got tehre in 1844. Browns/got there 1841 — Lawrence County. Which County are you in. We have records ofthem and others in nearby counties as well.
Hmmm . . . I wonder how your “John Woods, b. 1805”, is related to my “Maryy (Woods) Richey, b. 1796” according to later census records from Lawrence County, Arkansas? They could be brother and sister, making your John Sr also a John Jr. But maybe they are cousins? Wood is also a common name, but that is an awful early date to be in Gibson Co, Indiana. Do you know from later census records where John Sr, b. 1805, was born? Mary’s (Polly) census records say she was born in Tennessee in 1796. The John we know of who we strongly feel is her father was at Ft Pitt when the Rev war ended and was recorded as settling in the Holston River Communities in NE Tn after that war. This John Woods and Mary Dickson appear in “Early Indiana Pioneers” — If I recall they wre in another county for a few years, 2 or 3 not many, before going to Gibson County. They arrived there from Holston area of Tn.
vance
December 17, 2003 at 5:58 am #8456At the website below —
http://www.rootsquest.com/~jmurphy/gibson/gibsmisc.htm
is found the following —
DAY, LABERN, Resident of Gibson Co, IN 1850
Other researcher: ASHER, John R, RT 2 BOX 808, RICHLAND, MO 65556
Everton Submitter #27025
DICKSON, NANCY b 1785; came to Knox Co, IN in 1807 from Tenn, came to Gibson County
1809, Pioneer of Indiana
WHITE, ALFRED – IN CENTER TP, NAMES FROM A MAP (? DATE)
WHITE, HENRY 1843 thru 1844 had children in Gibson Co School Dist. #1
WHITE, HENRY 1846 had children in Gibson Co School Dist. #2
WHITE, JOHN 1845 had children in Gibson Co School Dist. #1
WHITE, JOHN 1846 had children in Gibson Co School Dist. #2
WHITE, JOS. P. – IN CENTER TP, NAMES FROM A MAP (? DATE)
WHITE, LEWIS 1843 had children in Gibson Co School Dist. #1
WHITE, LEWIS W. 1846 had children in Gibson Co School Dist. #2
WHITE, RICHARD 1842 thru 1845 had children in Gibson Co School Dist. #1
WHITE, RICHARD 1846 had children in Gibson Co School Dist. #2
WHITE, SUSAN, Marr 1847 Gibson Co, IN
Other researcher: OGG, Sandra R, P O BOX 272, Brighton, IL 62012
Everton Submitter #26615
Other researcher: SCHULTZ, Wilma L., P.O.Box 84, Blue Hill, NE 68930
Everton Submitter #(didn’t copy down)
WOODS, JOHN, Resident of Gibson Co, IN 1840
Other researcher: GROVE, Randall M, RT 1 BOX 64, DIX, IL 62830
Everton Submitter #29557
WOODS, JOHN – IN CENTER TP, NAMES FROM A MAP (? DATE)
WOODS, JOSEPH, b 1745 VA, in Rev War, came to county from Knox Co, IN 1809, and
prior to that from VA and Tenn to Knox Co IN in 1807, Society of Indiana Pioneer,
descendants Sara WOODS HAMILTON, 1953 of Greenfield, IA; Robert Archer WOODS,
1953 of Greenfield, IA
WOODS, NANCY (DICKSON) b 1785; came to Knox Co, IN in 1807 from Tenn, came to
Gibson County 1809, Pioneer of Indiana
Dodn’t see the Cotrell surname there. Mine is the Dickson and the Woods, and the others are surnames you mentioned. Here it says “Joseph” was the Revolutionary War Vet — now John. I believe 2 brothers married 2 sisters in this generation also and both came to Indiana at the same time — Joseph also married a Dickson girl if I remember right. Now I have to dig some more to get at the bottom of this . . . 🙂 I really do have it written down somewhere and one time when I organize it I forget the next how that organizastion went . . . but seein’ Joes name rings a bell. They were in another county in Indiana for a couple of years (Knox 1807-1809, see Nancy (Dickson) Woods above) and came to Gibsom County in 1809.
vance
December 17, 2003 at 5:58 am #8457Well here is a post found on a Tennessee list about “Woods/Dickson –
[Edit of msg after looking at file — author of it says there are apparent errors in it and I think he is right — Some of what he/she is saying is identical to what I had but some is slightly different. I have John Woods marrying Nancy Dickson andhe has James marrying her– maybe other differences too. Also notice how early the Woods and Dickson sisters were in Tennessee, 1725?? ] Thank you for asking about these surnames as it is making me look into them again . . . :). I had heard of the Woods/Hamilton connection somewhere so this is us all right — Marla, I bet this is yours, too.
[one more post posting edit The creator of this message at the bottom of it, has a SAMUEL* HAMILTON WOODS, b. March 01, 1791 — my great granddad was raised by his uncle as his father died when he was 1 or 2 years old. That uncle was Hamilton Woods Richey (Woods was his middle name) Hamilton Richey was born in the 1820s, so his Uncle Samuel Hamilton Woods would have been about 30 years old when he was born– the similarity of these names makes me confident these are my Woods people, and they are probably yours too, Marla. And this generation of Richeys also had a Samuel Richey.
I do not know if they are related to the Woods who was the very early explorer or not. If they were, they came to America after he did by a generation or 2 I think.]
if you click here —
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/TENNESSEE/1999-04/0923764241
you’ll see the following post (this is the first time I’ve seen it, too) —
TENNESSEE-L Archives
From: Sara Hemp
Subject: Re: [TENNESSEE-L] William Woods (1695-1785) Orange County NC > Greene County TN
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:10:41 -0500
Brett Woods wrote:
< The following information on the family of William Woods (b. 1695
Ireland – d. 1785 Orange County NC) is taken from the Woods-McAfee
Memorial. This William is the brother of Michael Woods of Blair Park
who came from Ireland with Michael in the 1730s. However when Michael
went to Virginia, William went to Maryland, then South Carolina sometime
between 1730 and 1735. Please note that there are a lot of new names in
this line as the descendants of William Woods of North Carolina have not
been that fully researched. Further, this is all the information I have
on this family…… >
Brett,
Is this the same Michael Woods’ line?
Descendants of Michael* Woods
Generation No. 1
1. MICHAEL*2 WOODS (JOHN 11) was born 1684 in Ireland, and died 1762
in Virginia. He married MARY* CAMPBELL 1701.
Child of MICHAEL* WOODS and MARY* CAMPBELL is:
2. i. NATHAN*3 WOODS, b. 1725, Tennessee?; d. (8-1-1752) Donnegal
Township, Lancaster County, Virginia.
Generation No. 2
2. NATHAN*3 WOODS (MICHAEL*2, JOHN 11) was born 1725 in Tennessee?, and
died in (8-1-1752) Donnegal Township, Lancaster County, Virginia. He
married JANET* M HEATON August 29, 1752.
Notes for NATHAN* WOODS:
……Woods from Family Tree Maker, World Family Tree–there are
apparent mistakes in this file…….from Danny Mike Norton, May 1998.
Child of NATHAN* WOODS and JANET* HEATON is:
3. i. JOSEPH*4 WOODS, b. August 22, 1745, near Charlottesville,
Albemarle County, Virginia; d. January 16, 1835, Gibson County, Indiana.
Generation No. 3
3. JOSEPH*4 WOODS (NATHAN*3, MICHAEL*2, JOHN 11) was born August 22,
1745 in near Charlottesville, Albemarle County, Virginia, and died
January 16, 1835 in Gibson County, Indiana. He married MARY HAMILTON
January 28, 1768 in Albemarle County, Virginia, daughter of SAMUEL*
HAMILTON and EDITH* HARRISON.
Notes for JOSEPH* WOODS:
Received: July 13, 1998
From: Dann M. Norton
(copied from the book – 6 8X11 sheets {12 book pages})
JOSEPH WOODS (1745-1835) And His Lineal Descendants
First Edition 1909
Joseph Woods was born near Charlottesville, Albemarle County, Virginia,
August 22, 1745. He was married January 28, 1768 to Mary Hamilton of
said county. She was born in 1747 and died August 26, 1829. About 1790
Joseph Woods, together with his wife and ten children, migrated to
Tennessee and settled on the Holston River about ten miles from
Knoxville, where Samuel Hamilton Woods, the eleventh and last child, was
born in 1791. In 1807, He removed, with his family except his son,
Joseph L., to Knox County, Indiana, and settled on the Du Chien (Du
Shee) River. April 10, 1809, he removed to Gibson County, Indiana , and
settled on Turkey Hill in Sec. 21,
T 2 S, R 10 W, 3 miles southwest of Princeton. In 1811, his son, Joseph
L. and Family, followed from Tennessee and settled 2 miles west of the
homestead. He died January 16, 1835 on his Turkey Hill farm.
Joseph Woods served in the Revolutionary War as a Private in Capt. Benj.
{Captain Benjamin} Briggs’ Company, 7th Va. Regt. {Virginia Regiment};
Muster Roll dated Fort Pitt, Nov. 18, 1781; “for the year 1780 and Jan.
to Oct., 1781″; “Term of enlistment, War”; “On command at Wheeling”.
His name was last borne on Muster Roll for June 1783, dated at Fort
Pitt, July 3, 1783, with remark “On furlough”. {[Record {unreadable}
Pension Office, War Dept. & certified Au’ by Col. F. C. Aiusworth, USA
Chi??] hand-written in space}.
His children were (1) John, (2) James, (3) Margaret (Peggy), (4)
Patrick, (5) Joseph L. (Lapsley?), (6) William P., (7) David, (8) Isaac,
(9) Jane, (10) Elizabeth, and (11) Samuel Hamilton.
{Hand-written in Left margin [5/17/50 Ind Hist Soc {Indiana Historical
Society} from Robb A Woods, Greenfield, Iowa}
{Rest of the pages are Genealogy} END.
Children of JOSEPH* WOODS and MARY HAMILTON are:
i. JOHN* 15 WOODSI, b. February 22, 1769, Albemarle County, Virginia;
d. Gibson County, Indiana; m. POLLY* DICKSON, 1789, Blount County,
Tennessee.
Notes for POLLY* DICKSON:
…..I have nothing else on the Woods-Dickson line, except that two
Woods brothers and two Dickson sisters married. The Dickson are from
Blount County, Tennessee or near there, as that is where they married.
from Dann M Norton, May 1998.
ii. JAMES 6 WOODS, b. 1770; d. 1815; m. NANCY DICKSON, Bef. 1816.
iii. MARGARET “PEGGY” WOODS, b. 1772; d. 1845; m. SAMUEL HOGUE, SR, THE
UNCLE.
iv. PATRICK 4 WOODS, b. 1775; m. JANE HANNAH.
v. JOSEPH L (LAPSLEY?) WOODS, b. 1776; d. 1845, lived Tennessee- moved
to Gibson County, Indiana 1811; m. ELIZABETH HANNAH.
vi. WILLIAM P 1 WOODS, b. 1778; d. 1845, never married.
vii. DAVID 8 WOODS, b. 1780; d. 1841; m. ESTHER WITHERSPOON.
viii. ISAAC 5 WOODS, b. 1783; d. 1872; m. ELIZABETH WITHERSPOON.
ix. JANE 5 WOODS, b. 1785; m. SAMUEL HOGUE, JR, THE NEPHEW.
x. ELIZABETH 4 WOODS, b. 1787; d. 1854; m. WILLIAM 1 EMBREE, 1814.
xi. SAMUEL* HAMILTON WOODS, b. March 01, 1791; d. July 16, 1880; m. ANN
MCMILLAN, November 08, 1815.
My cousin found this line through reseach in Gibson County, Indiana. I
have just staarted in Tennessee — basicly looking for another line.
There is several of us online who are from the Joseph Woods/ Mary
Hamilton line.
Could we share our info?
Sara
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December 17, 2003 at 5:58 am #8458Another error — someone came from Ireland in the 1730s yet one descnedant was born in 1725 in Tennessee? Oh, there are 2 brothers and the second came in the 1730s — the first was already here then.
Also Michael Woods married Mary Campbell in 1701 and they had a child Nathan in 1725. That’s 24 years later. If she was 16 when they got married she’d be 40 when she had Nathan. It is possible I guess, but it is also possible, but means she was bearing children for over 20 years . . . most likely, but it makes ya think.
any explanations??
vance
PS –see why I quit posting for a while? This is like an addiction . . . I can waste an entire day and get absolutely nothing else done . . . it needs to be done in “moderation”. Now I’ll be trying to figure this out . . .
December 17, 2003 at 5:58 am #8459Marla and Vance,
At this link, you can plug in the surname and county and get an index of those people’s marriages.
http://www.statelib.lib.in.us/www/isl/indiana/genealogy/mirr.html
December 17, 2003 at 5:58 am #8460Marla,
Census & marriage data :
Mahala Harris m’d John Woods on Aug 23, 1838, in Posey Co., Ind
1850 Posey Co., Ind Census, Bethel Twp, 7 August, p.234B, at 25, 25:
William HARRIS, 47, m, farmer, SC
Margaret, 37, f, Ind.
Mary G., 20, f, Ind.
John L., 12, m, Ind.
David L., 10, m, Ind.
Richard HARRIS, 76, m, NC****
Joshua Norris, 23, m, laborer, Ind.
William Harris m’d Margaret B. WALLER, Nov 6, 1828, in Posey Co.
1850 Posey Co., Ind Census, Black Twp, 14 Aug., p.164B, at 381, 381:
William HARRIS, 32, m, farmer, $1000, NC
Ann, 32, f, Ind.
Elizabeth, 13, f, Ind.
Wm. J., 11, m, Ind.
Mary E., 8, f, Ind.
Rebecca, 5, f, Ind.
Nancy A., 4, f, Ind.
Rachael J., 1, f, Ind.
This Wm Harris m’d Anna ROW on Dec 7, 1836 in Posey Co.
(this may be ROWE)
Three doors away from Wm Harris (32 y/o), at 384, 384 :
W. W. ROWE, 22, m, farmer, $150, Ind.
Martha J. Rowe, 18, f, NC
James H. Rowe, 3, m, Ind.
James HARRIS, 50, m, NC
David Harris, 14, m, NC
Anson Harris, 12, m, Ind.
Here are the rest of the 1850 Posey Co HARRIS’s found:
Bethel Twp., 7 Aug, p.253B at 10, 10:
Richard Harris, 31, m, farmer, $50, Ind.
Margaret, 32, f, Ky (nee: Sanders, m’d May 7, 1840 Posey Co)
G.W., 8, m, Ind.
Metelew, 5, f, Ind.
Isaac W., 2, m, Ind.
Cassa Andrew W., 1, f, Ind (surname is Harris)
Jane HARRIS, 73, f, S.Carolina.
Harmony Twp., 20 Aug, p.265B, at 243, 243 :
Samuel Harris, 34, m, farmer, $320, Tenn.
Rosa, 35, f, Tenn.
Sarah, 11, f, Ky.
George, 3, m, Ind.
Harmony Twp., 21 Aug, p.266B, at 256, 256:
Richard Harris, 43, m, farmer, $0, Tenn.
Martha, 34(?), f, Ky.
Elizabeth, 15, f, Ky.
George Y., 13, m, Ky.
William A., 11, m, Ky.
Margaret, 9, f, Ky.
James Y., 4, m, Ind.
Minerva, 4 months, f, Ind.
Harmony Twp, at 709, 709 (didn’t write the page # down)
Fenny COX, 59, m, NC
Sarah Cox, 67, f, NC
William HARRIS, 18, m, Ind.
Argent Frost, 16, f, Ind.
…………………………………..
Let me digress for clarity’s sake ( ! ).
1810 Muhlenberg Co., Ky Census, p.400:
Richard Harris = 20010 – 30010 – 0 – 0.
household contains:
2 males under 10.
1 male 25 to 44.
3 females under 10.
1 female 25 to 44.
Obviously he’s got a wife in 1810, but…..
a Richard Harris m’d Hannah TANNER on –,–, 1816 in Muhlenberg Co Ky per an Index of that county’s marr. records on ancestry.com so he might have been marr’d twice – couldn’t find a second Richard here.
Other marriages in Muhlenberg Co., Ky:
Zachariah Harris m’d Milly COOPER, –, –, 1806.
Samuel Harris m’d Mary ROWE, on Aug 4, 1825.
Stephen Harris m’d Sara COLEMAN on Aug 29, 1827
…………
Okay, the rest will make more sense…….
1830 Posey Co., Ind Census,
Harmony Twp, p.185:
Richard Harris = 01000001 – 00010001.
household contains:
1 male 5 to 9.
1 male 50 to 59. (b.1770’s)
1 female 15 to 19.
1 female 50 to 59.
Same census, Black Twp, p.177:
Samuel Harris = 300001 – 00001. (same one that m’d in Ky?)
household contains:
3 males under 5.
1 male 30 to 39.
1 female 20 to 29.
Same census, Robb Twp, p.192:
William Harris = 00001 – 1001 (m’d Margaret Waller Nov 6, 1828)
household contains:
1 male 20 to 29.
1 female under 5.
1 female 15 to 19.
……………….
Over in 1830 Gibson Co., Ind, Census:
p.139:
Stephen HARRIS = 00001 – 20001. (same one that m’d in Ky?)
household contains:
1 male 20 to 29.
2 females under 5.
1 female 20 to 29.
p.160:
Morton (Martin?) HARRIS = 101001 – 122001.
household contains:
1 male under 5.
1 male 10 to 14.
1 male 30 to 39.
1 female under 5.
2 females 5 to 9.
2 females 10 to 15.
1 female 30 to 39.
……………………………………
1820 Posey Co., Ind Census, Robb Twp., p.311:
Richard Harris = 211210 – 11010 – 0 – 0.
household contains:
2 males under 10.
1 male 10 to 15.
1 male 16 to 18.
2 males 16 to 25.
1 male 26 to 44.
1 female under 10.
1 female 10 to 15.
1 female 26 to 44.
on the next page of that census:
Milley Harris = 210100 – 10010 – 0 – 0. (Zachariah’s widow?)
2 males under 10.
1 male 10 to 16.
1 male 16 to 25.
1 female under 10.
1 female 26 to 44.
…………………………
Okay, Richard Harris was in 1810 Muhlenberg Co., Ky and we know (?) from the 1850 census that he’s from NC, but you knew that. He’s not on the 1800 Ky Tax Lists either.
Comparing the Richard Harris’s of 1800 NC to the 1810 NC census (which Richard is there in 1800 that isn’t there in 1810?)
There is a “maybe” but as to hard proof, this didn’t work- Richard was somewhere else or on the way in 1800 OR, these two states’ census records were taken so far apart, time wise, that in 1810, Richard is on both the KY and NC census. Here’s the info anyway in case there’s a clue somewhere you want to follow up on.)
1800 Census:
1 is in Brunswick Co., NC, p.15 – he’s over 45 y/o, so this isn’t him.
2 are in Pitt Co., NC –
p.277, this Richard Harris (11010 -10010-0-0) is 26 to 44.
next door is Henry Harris (30010-00110-0-14) also 26 to 44.
p.290, this Richard Harris (10010-10010-0-0) is also 26 to 44.
next door is Lucey (?) Harris (01000-01020-0-0), 26 to 44.
In 1810, the Brunswick Co Richard is still there.
The Pitt Co Richards are also still there.
There is now, also a Richard Harris, 16 to 25, in Iredell Co.
Here is a “maybe” : a Richard Harris is listed on the Granville Co., NC census, p.130, but there is no ennumeration for him – I’ve always thought this was a case where he owned the property but didn’t actually live there – maybe it’s your Richard and he’d already left for KY ? Don’t know.
………………………………………..
There may also be a clue in 1790 NC Census records.
Pitt Co – Richard Harris = 11101.
Brunswick Co – Richard Harris = 13200.
Martin Co – Richard Harris = 23400.
Also in 1790 Martin Co, is a Samuel Harris = 20600;
and an Ephraim Harris = 10000.
Samuel is one of the few early Posey Co Ind Harris’s that were found, so these Martin Co Harris’s might need more followup.
…………..
Bill
December 17, 2003 at 5:58 am #8463Bill & Vance, WOW!! Unbelievable!
Vance, check your email for Rob Woods email address.
Also just received some family info from another descendant Jthat lists my John Woods as William Woods and that they were Pennsylvania Dutch..1st time I’ve heard that..
Rob Woods lists him as John Sr. Woods. b. about 1805 PA
John Woods b. abt 1805 PA…he marries Mahala Harris in 1838 in Posey CO. She was born abt 1815 in POsey Co. He was about 10 years older than she. Often wondered also if he had married before her. Interestingly I just received pictures of Mahala Harris (I really believe the Harris line could be our link to Native American ancestors) and Alzada(ELzady) White..this is unbelievable..Vance I understand how difficult it is when one is wrapped up in the chase…it’s difficult to keep the train of thought straight when one has to stop and do something else…there’s several times I’ve stopped for a lengthy periods of time but something keeps pulling me back in…I would stay in… :)..but the living keep pulling me back out…:)
Bill,
I have read and re-read your posts and some of the things are very very interesting….I have wondered about Richard Harris’s early years in Posey County in the early 1820s…he was in some court proceedings that I can’t list here…don’t we all have someone back there…..but wondered too if he had married again..but knew his wife Jane hadn’t died..(bigamy?)..just a thought….but Rob Woods has a lot of records on him from that time when he sold land to the Rappites at New Harmony…
From your census postings note that Richard is living with one son and Jane is living with another…was this for health reasons or what…wonder why they weren’t kept together…
“1850 Posey Co., Ind Census, Bethel Twp, 7 August, p.234B, at 25, 25:
William HARRIS, 47, m, farmer, SC
Margaret, 37, f, Ind.
Mary G., 20, f, Ind.
John L., 12, m, Ind.
David L., 10, m, Ind.
Richard HARRIS, 76, m, NC****
Joshua Norris, 23, m, laborer, Ind.”
“Here are the rest of the 1850 Posey Co HARRIS’s found:”
Bethel Twp., 7 Aug, p.253B at 10, 10:
Richard Harris, 31, m, farmer, $50, Ind.
Margaret, 32, f, Ky (nee: Sanders, m’d May 7, 1840 Posey Co)
G.W., 8, m, Ind.
Metelew, 5, f, Ind.
Isaac W., 2, m, Ind.
Cassa Andrew W., 1, f, Ind (surname is Harris)
Jane HARRIS, 73, f, S.Carolina.****”
————
From your posts and what Rob thinks is that Zachariah and Richard were brothers..don’t know about Stephen…but he did have a son Stephen that Rob is descended from
“1810 Muhlenberg Co., Ky Census, p.400:
Richard Harris = 20010 – 30010 – 0 – 0.
household contains:
2 males under 10. ***Stephen b. Sept. 23, 1800 Pendleton DIst, SC and William Harris b. abt 1803 SC
1 male 25 to 44****Richard
3 females under 10. Cassandra b. 1811and Mahala b.abt. 1815, don’t have the 3rd one…
1 female 25 to 44.****Jane”
“Obviously he’s got a wife in 1810, but…..
a Richard Harris m’d Hannah TANNER on –,–, 1816 in Muhlenberg Co Ky per an Index of that county’s marr. records on ancestry.com so he might have been marr’d twice – couldn’t find a second Richard here.”
He seems to have really gone wild in Muhlenberg and Posey…:)….but he did have several children there in Muhlenberg according to their birthdates
“Other marriages in Muhlenberg Co., Ky:
Zachariah Harris m’d Milly COOPER, –, –, 1806.
Samuel Harris m’d Mary ROWE, on Aug 4, 1825.
Stephen Harris m’d Sara COLEMAN on Aug 29, 1827″
…Now DRUM ROLL ..with your posts and contacting Rebecca it looks “if”
yes there’s ifs..but with time to run it all down there’s a huge chance of being a great connection…
I also received a picture of Alzady White who married Labourn(Labon, etc sp) Day and a family chart from an 88 yr gentleman, John Hoffman who is descended from James Andrew DAY.
His chart shows a William Beldon Day as brother to James Andrew and
Rebecca has sent a lot of WHITE info that I’m trying to absorb..but this looks very interesting:
1850 Census, Gibson Co., IN, Johnson Twp., p.109 (HH#51):
EZEKIEL WHITE, 60, farmer, VT
— Lydia, 60, VT
— Belden, 24, IN
— Horace, 21, IN
— Elizabeth A., 18, IN****
Could this possibly be Alzady(Elzady) I have her dob abt 1818, John Hoffman has circa 1820..but either way it doesn’t seem to fit…
…..anyway wanted to post another HUGE THANKS to you both.
Vance…I was looking for a Martha Hickson(was spelled that way in a old family letter one time and she turned out to be Nixon…
maybe your DICKSON is a DIXON or something else in someone elses records…
but I figure you’ve already done searces using different spellings….
the living calls…be back soon…
THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Marla
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