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My grandparent’s have always told us they were Blackfoot Cherokee, I’ve traced my line back to Kizzie/Kiziah Dishman in N.C., Ky., and Tenn. I cannot go any farther on this though, I keep running into dead ends. Her time period was 1775. If anyone can help me out here, I would truly appreciate it.
Everyone I’ve asked has never heard of the Blackfoot Cherokee, I just happened to run onto this site, and was amazed to find out that others are searching out this same heritage.
Linda Howard
Welcome, Linda. Indeed there are others of us. My family story is also Blackfoot Cherokee. I trace them back to about the same period, except mine were in PA. Many on this forum have your story and your locations. Others of us have ancestors who went north, we think during the Tutelo exodus north. Some say Blackfoot Cherokee, others just Blackfoot or Cherokee, all from the east coast at about the time period of your ancestor. And not everyone who posts has any of these stories, just an interest in exploring native ancestry.
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Techteach
Thank-you, for your kind greeting.
I am glad to hear I am not alone. Can you tell me a little about my heritage with the Blackfoot Cherokee. I so hope that I can find my ancestors. I want to learn as much as I can about them, so I can pass it down to my children and grandchildren.
Linda Howard
Welcome Linda,
My name is Brenda. My main lines of research are Collins/Spencer on my father’s side, however, about a year ago I found that I also connect to the Brock/Howard line of Harlan Co. Kentucky. Would this be where your Howard’s are located? This is the line rumored to be that of Aaron Brock aka Chief Redbird.
Good luck with your search, hang in there and don’t give up.
Brenda
I have traced my ancestors back to Kizzie/kiziah Dishman (some say she was a daughter of one of the Doublehead’s, and was born at Old Cherokee Nation in North Carolina)abt.1775. She had 3 sons Lewis, James and Jefferson.
James’son Mark married Serilda Martha Smith,they moved to Fentress, Tenn., then to Wayne Co., Ky.
I have not been able to find out much on Kizzie/Kiziah, or any thing before her. Only dead ends. Some family members said she was married to a Thomas Dishman, but I cannot find anything on him, and have no idea where to look. She did buy land in Iredell County, in N.C., then sold it to her son in 1801. I have a copy of the land deed. Other than that, she’s a mystery, and her name doesnt show up any where other than a census in 1800.
Most all the Dishman’s including my Mom is small in stature, they have dark shiny straight hair, and tan looking skin. Granddad would tell us, we came from a very proud people. And said his people were Blackfoot Cherokee. Which I could never find anyone who knew about Blackfoot Cherokee until I ran into this site.
Has anyone heard of any of these Dishman’s?
Linda
Welcome, Linda,
She is in 1810 Wilkes Co., NC census as “Kissiah” as well as 1800 Iredell Co census as “Kizey”. On the 1810 census, she is shown as “over 45” years old, so she was born before 1765. Backing up that date is the 1800 census showing her as 26 to 44 years old.
She supposedly moved to Wayne Co., Ky (two counties north of Fentress Co., Tenn.) with one of her sons and died there.
She is alledged to be one of the daughters of Chief DOUBLEHEAD of the Cherokee (b.abt.1744 per Chronology of Robert BENGE) which is possible and with the large number of family stories out there to that effect, it may even be true. Emmett Star lists only (only ones I found) the children of Doublehead’s third wife Creat PRIBER, b.abt.1757 (dau of Christian Priber and CLOGOITTAH who was a dau of MOYTOY. The children by his first wife Nannie (the Pain) DRUMGOOLE (dau of Alexander Drumgoole and Nancy AUGUSTA) and of the second wife Kateeyah WILSON, are not known but these other two wives do appear to be well documented. Because Creat PRIBER was born about 1757, she is not Kiziah’s mother so Kiziah would be the dau of one of the other wives IF she is Doublehead’s daughter.
Maybe you’re missing a generation for Mark Dishman.
Everything I’ve found on Mark DISHMAN, b.abt. 1810, and Serilda/Sarilda SMITH, b.abt. 1811, show “Mark/Marcus” Dishman as the son of Jefferson (a.k.a. Jephta?) Dishman (Kiziah’s son), b.abt. 1775 and Lydia UPCHURCH, b.abt. 1780 (?). Lydia’s mother was Rachael Bathshares/Bithshares/BRASHEARS, who married George Upchurch in 1781 in Brunswick Co., Va where Saponi did live (George & Lydia probably died about 1830 in Wayne Co., Ky.)
Jefferson Dishman’s parents were Thomas/Tom Dishman and Kezzie/Kiziah Doublehead.
(Jefferson’s brothers were Lewis and James Robert Dishman. James was alledgedly murdered in Statesville, NC in 1782, and if true, could not be the father of Mark, b.abt. 1810. It’s also possible in the naming scheme to suspect that “Jefferson” may have been a “Thomas Jefferson Dishman” – but I don’t know that for a fact.)
Thomas/Tom Dishman, b.abt 1740’s Va. married Kezzie Doublehead (?), b. (say early) 1760’s and Thomas’s parents appear to be Peter Dishman, b.abt. 1718 Westmoreland Co., Va; d.abt.1772 Essex Co., Va; and Sarah REYNOLDS, b.abt. 1720 Essex (?) Co., Va.
Peter Dishman’s parents were Samuel (Du Chemin) Dishman, b.abt.1665 France; d.abt. 1726 Va (a good question would be: were these Hugenotes who settled around Manakin Town ?); and Cornelia DIGGS, b.abt. 1673 Va.
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There is a DISHMAN Family website purporting to be well documented and it is ran by Nancy Lambert. Email her (to get a visitors invitation) at
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For more on Doublehead’s line, go to genforum.com’s RILEY family forum, msg # 1557 by Whitehawk, which lists sources.
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Bill
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