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November 19, 2009 at 3:35 pm #3927
A cousin of mine had her grandfather Risner give the Risner DNA for testing. My maternal great grandmother’s father was George W. Risner b. 1817 TN. I have documented the line back to him accurately. The DNA results came in from the lab and the coordinator called me last night.
The DNA results proved that George W. Risner was not a Risner and not German as all the Risner are/were. It also placed him in Haplogroug A – which is Native American Indian. (A B C D & X are NA Haplo Groups). I doubt seriously that he is Saponi but thought I’d give this information for anyone who doubts DNA results. It is proof positive.
If you have a male donor in your line and having difficulty proving your NA ancestry, I’d sure go that route. We have proved Cherokee and Choctaw but with that German name of Risner, I never dreamed his DNA would come back anything other than with a European Haplogroup. We just never know. He adopted that name by 1840. This doesn’t complicate the fact that his descendants are known as Risners even though they are not. We just now must prove what his real name is and who his father really was.
There are three ways this could have happened. He was adopted by a Risner family and took on that name. His mother was pregnant when she married a Risner or he may have been a bastard, putting it bluntly. There’s also the question of fidelity in his parents marriage. These things happen!
DNA can confirm or deny but the results help us research further generations back and give us valuable information. Clydene
November 19, 2009 at 3:35 pm #34602Hi,
This is interesting. I am confused though you said they tested the Risner Male line Correct? Did the individual do a Y-dna Test or Mitochondrial DNA test? Please clarify this. Haplogroup A is a Mitochondrial Native american haplogroup (Female line traced through the Maternal line of a male or female). Maternal Haplogroups cannot verify Paternal lines or origins associated with male surnames.
If the person who took the test tested the male line (yDNA) Or paternal line and it was grouped in Haplogroup A it would be of African Origins.
I Belong to Native American Maternal Haplogroup A. If it is Native American can you share the results?
Yes DNA testing is very interesting and helps clarify many things in our family lines even some things we may not know.
Thanks.
November 19, 2009 at 3:35 pm #35400Shoshone:
This one had me really going for a while but I consulted a NA Geneticist, Dr. Malhi, and he reviewed the results for our Risner donor. He tested Y-dna but his MT-dna came back with a Haplotype A – men carry that from their mother for their generation only.
The simple answer is that our donor was NA through his mother but the Risner ancestors are not NA. The Risner DNA Project was kind enough to also report the Mt-dna on our donor but that confused us somewhat. So, our George W. Risner b. 1817 is a Risner, probably German or Dutch, but his descendants did marry Choctaws and Cherokees, as our donor did.
The Risner DNA Project called and said that Haplotype A is Native American. Can you explain further about the African American Haplotype A or where can I read more about it.
Thanks, you got it right before we could figure out what was happening. My brother did our DNA and my husband had his done but when our male Risner cousin gave the sample and it came back with a Haplotype A, we were totally confused think that was his Haplotype but it was his mothers.
I’ll have to get you some further information
Clydene
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