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Does anyone know what tribe is from southeastern kentucky. i have a duff line that has indian in it and they all seem to come from southeastern kentucky. i really dont know where to start to find anything out about indian blood lines. any help will be appreciated. thanks
Can’t be of much help to you unless you post some speciific names, dates and locations for your people in S.E. Ky.
Bill
I have some Duff’s from SE KY in my line as well, but don’t have any info on Indian ancestry for them. My Duffs were in Perry County in the late 1800’s.
this is what i have ill start at the bottom and work my way up.
Irvin Duff b:9 Oct 1912 d: 29 Sep 1989 md. Mallie Neace in Oct 1942 she was born 25 feb 1923 and died on 1 Sep 1987 they had 11 children most are still living.
his father was
Hiram Duff b: apr 1869 md. Polly Ann Stacy b: May 1873 d: 5 Jun 1936 They had 10 Children
His father was
John C. Duff b:2 jul 1836 Md. Lucinda Campbell on 14 mar 1857 she was born jan 1840 they had 9 children
His father was Colson Duff b: 9 jul 1814 d: 8 mar 1911 md. Elizabeth Gilbert they had 13 children
His father was Danial Duff b: 1776 Nc d: 15 aug 1855 Ky md. Nancy Ann Ellison they had 13 children
thanks for any help
Below is an excerpt from the Win Indians. For further information
Google: Estabrook Papers (papers on Carrie Buck, Eugenics and “Mongrel Virginia Indians”
Google: Plecker Duff (1924 Virginia Racial Integrity Law)
BTW there is no such tribe as the Win indians. Win stood for White Indian Negro, i.e. Tri-Racial indians….
Early Generations of the Wins
17. Handwritten genealogical charts:
a. Duff
b. Early Genealogy of the Isshies
c. Amherst, Va. Early notes
d. Johns (Deed Book E 111)
e. (?] (Deed Book DD 334-340)
f. [Johns – Branham]
g. Willis
JT,
Greetings cousin!
We have a match with Daniel Duff and Nancy Ann, although I have Nancy Ann’s last name listed as Ellis rather than Ellison. They are my GGGG-Grandparents.
I’m descended through their son John, b. 1801. I have no information on John & Nancy’s other children.
I’m also related to Lucinda Campbell, b. 1839, but I don’t know her spouse or children. My Lucinda’s parents were Hiram Campbell and Susan Eversole. Could be we’re related that way too, since my family tree is full of Campbell’s.
My Duff’s were from Perry County, KY, and prior to that from North Carolina.
JT and Patty,
John Duff, b. 12 Jul 1836 Perry Co., Ky; d. 30 Dec 1910 Perry Co (son of Colson Duff and Elizabeth Gilbert);
m’d Lucinda CAMPBELL, b. 6 Jan 1846 Perry Co., Ky (but 1850 & 1860 census lists her with ages that would put her as b.abt. 1839), dau of Hiram Campbell, b. 15 Aug 1808 NC, d. 6 Mar 1891 Perry Co., Ky; and his wife Susanna EVERSOLE, b. 3 Oct 1812 NC, d. 27 Apr 1905 Perry Co. (On the 1850 Perry Co Census, there is a “Martha LAD”, 63, b.Va., living with Hiram and Susanna Campbell at visit 173. Colson, Elizabeth and son John Duff were visit 103.)
Hiram Campbell’s parents are John Campbell, b.abt. 1760 NC and Polly COUCH, b.abt. 1770 NC. ( The above info on 1850 & 1860 Perry Co Census and in World Family Tree, Vol 18, trees 336 & 337).
Numerous WFTs show Daniel Duff, b.abt. 1772-76, Guilford Co., NC, as a “Reverend” & most of the WFTs show his 1st wife as Nancy Ann ALLISON, d. 15 Aug 1849; after which he m’d 2nd Elizabeth ROE, nee: LITTLETON, in Carter Co., Ky on 16 Mar 1851, with Daniel Duff dying 15 Aug 1855 in Carter Co.
There were 3 Daniel Duffs in 1820 Ky: one each in Floyd, Clay and Montgomery. The Floyd Co Daniel Duff’s children in 1820 appear to match up best with the 1830 Perry Co Daniel’s children.
A couple of WFTs show Nancy Ann as an Ellison, but Ellison and Allison are pretty commonly interchangable spellings and it could be either one.
per WFT Vol 5, Tree 726, Daniel Duff’s parents are Shadrack Duff, b. 1748 Scotland, d. 15 Mar 1781; m’d per WFTs Vol 66, tree 501 and Vol 40, Tree 237: Deborah DIXON, b.abt. 1750. Tree 501 also shows Daniel with a sister Elizabeth, b.abt. 1774, who m’d Thomas McLEAN / McLain, a Baptist Minister, & moved to E. Tenn abt. 1803.
Several researchers are of the opinion that Shadrack’s father was James Duff who brought his family to Va from Banff, Scotland. You might want to go to Genforum’s Duff Family Forum and in the “search this forum” field, type in “shadrack” – there are about 18 msgs there discussing this Duff line – and see what evidence exists.
Colson Duff’s sister Drucilla m’d William GILBERT (WFT Vol 7, tree 4400).
Colson’s brother Shadrack m’d Lucinda COMBS (WFT Vol 5, tree 726).
Colson’s brother John A., b.abt. 1801 Lee Co., Va, d. 1892; m’d 16 Jan 1823 in Perry Co., Ky, Mary “Polly” COMBS (WFT Vol 5, tree 726 & WFT vol 15, tree 1858). The “Lee Co., Va.” reference may or may not be correct – I wasn’t able to confirm that. Tree 1858 also shows Nancy Ann as an ELLISON.
Bill
Bill thank you so much for the info. That is the line i am working on.
Pat, I would be glad to share any info i have on this line with you. I have some info on the other children in the line. you can email me anytime. im usually on here of the night. this is one of my oldest sons branches on his line.
thanks again for all the help.
tonya
I am interested in Shadrack Duff and his wife Deborah Dixon. What else is know about Deborah Dixon? Where did Shadrack and Deborah’s family live?
What I know about the origin of my “Dickson’s” was Jamed Wood married Nancy Dickson (b. @ 1780), and John Wood married Polly Dickson (b. 1773), @ the 1780s or 1790s. James and John were brothers and we assume Polly and Nancy were sisters. My Woods/Dickson’s were in Blount county, Tn near the Holston River from the late 1780s until they left for S Indiana @ 1806.
I don’t know where my Dickson’s were before that, but my Woods/Hammilton’s (parents of James and John) seem to have been around Wheeling, Ohio Co, Va (now W Va, during the Rev War years) and before that Rockbridge Co, Va., starting 1769 or 70. Before that Albemarle Co. Since Amherst Co was formed from Albemarle Co at some time after 1770, they might have been there — I really don’t know what part of the county they lived in.
Your Deborah Dixon b @ 1750 might be an aunt to my Dicksons, judging from the years separating them.
I’ve been told Dickson and Dixon are the same surname, and been told people had seen it spelled both ways on a single document.
I was told by another person that there were once Person County, NC “Dixon’s/Dicksons” who are Indian, but I can’t trace mine to any location before Blount Co., Tn., with certainty, and I havn’t seen any documentation of it, either.
Vance
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