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April 22, 2005 at 1:43 am #14697
Hi, Stacy, thank you for your response. I am going to go through my stuff and see if anything comes up in regard to your people. There was a group of people that pretty much came out of Maryland and did not stop and get in the Upper East TN mixer. Sounds like yours were some of these people. I haven’t done any research in Charles Co MD, but would be glad to look up something for you. Jeanne
April 22, 2005 at 1:43 am #14749Hi Jeanne,
Thanks for the offer. I havn’t done any looking for Charles County, Maryland records yet. Another researcher (also searching for Gordon Maddox) told me that the Charles Co. records burned, but I don’t remember the timeframe that he told me. If I remember right, he found four Maddox marriages. I will have to dig up that email.
I am not that familiar with Maryland. Is Anne Arundel Co (where you mentioned your Hawkins were at) near Charles Co? I need to find a map.
Stacey
April 22, 2005 at 1:43 am #14752Stacey,
I don’t know if you saw this link in another posting I had, but if you want a quick map of counties to states, this is good.
http://www.census-online.com/links/
Sue J
April 22, 2005 at 1:43 am #14754Hi, Stacy, Anne Arundel County MD is one county away from Charles Co. It is north and east on the Chesepeake Bay. Many of the people that settled Anne Arundel Co were Quakers. Mine met in each other’s homes at first, and then when the Meetings became organized, they belonged to West River Monthly Meeting. (My line came in in 1651 and left between 1768-1774)
Charles County is land locked. From “The Handy Book ” by Everton Publishers: “During the first century of the settlement of Maryland, the settlers clung to the land along the many water courses, the rivers and the bays. No one ventured far away from the streams which provided about the only mode of transportation in those days. It was not until about 1740 that the Appalachian section of Maryland was claimed by settlers. English, Scotch-Irish emigrants came up from St. Mary’s, Charles, and Prince George’s Counties at that time.” Jeanne
April 22, 2005 at 1:43 am #23046Jeanne wrote: Stacey, Thank you for writing. I am so glad to make your acquaintance. I expect to be in Kokomo at some point in time as there is a group of folk musicians from Kokomo who have asked me to join them on occassion that I met at the Ohio Valley Gathering this year. I was born in Evansville.
Some of the Maddux’s who were in Daviess/Ohio Co KY at the same time my ancestor Elizabeth A. Madox was there (1818-1870’s) left when Matthew Hawkins set out for Fountain Co IN (ca 1824)and stopping on Honey Creek Prairie, died – that was in Vigo Co IN. They stayed in Vigo Co IN for a while and then went to Clay and Sullivan Cos. They were Churchill and Baptist Mattox. Churchill’s 1st wife was Fanny Hawkins – who I believe was a daughter of Matthew Hawkins. There was a Daniel Maddox who was living on land that Edward Hawkins (son of Matthew)was living on in 1811 in Anderson Co TN., from wence my Hawkins came from, to Daviess Co KY. Edward assigned the land to him. There are no other references to Daniel other than he was appointed to oversee several road orders that he never shows up for. On occassion, other men are appointed to act in his stead.
Elizabeth Jones is the mt/dna match of Wise Co VA. of my ancestor Elizabeth A. Madox, b 1797, who married Aaron W. Hawkins and lived Anderson Co TN until 1818 when they came to Daviess Co KY, the Yellow Banks. Some of Elizabeth Jones’ family live around Pineville KY. , Sweetwater, TN, Bell Co KY – that general SW VA /TN area. Jones, Marsee, Gibbs are some of her family’s surnames.
What are the names of your Maddox people who came to IN? There is a Daniel Maddox who is supposed to be a brother of Wilson Maddox of Shelby Co KY. Daniel came up to Jennings Co IN.
A possible brother of my ancestor, Elizabeth A. Madox, b 1797, is Nelson A. Maddux of Ohio Co KY. He was b 1801 in VA. He had a son, Tapley, who signed Elizabeth A. Madox’s husband’s 1812 War Bounty Land Application in 1855. His father, Nelson, was dead at the time. Nelson had a son Daniel. Tapley, b 10 May 1820 Shelby Co KY, was a son by Nelson’s first marriage to Narcissa Beauchamp. Elizabeth had a daughter, Ruhamma Marietta Narcissa. Nelson also m Martha Beauchamp and Susan Baughn/Vaughan, dau of William of Shelby Co KY. Patrick D. Baughn was the exr. of the estate of Wilson Maddox, son of Daniel in Jennings Co IN.
I believe Nelson had a brother, Preston Maddux, b 1807, VA. He m Sarah Malinda Swope ca 1840. Nelson and Preston lived next door to each other in Daviess Co KY. at one time.
There is a William Maddox, whose son, Thomas, married Delilah Shepherd 25 May 1840 whose father is William Shepherd, who is living in the household of of Nelson Maddux on the 1850 Census, along with a possible brother, Anderson Shepherd. William Maddox also had a son, Daniel.
Nelson’s dau, Laura m Granville C. Brown. Granville and Laura had a daughter, Laura, who is living in Nelson’s household on the 1850 Census. After Laura’s death, Granville m Zerelda Beauchamp.
The George Swope of Spencer Co KY looms large in the family of Nelson and Preston.
I have a lot of records of interaction of people, but cannot establish a relationship – if any exists.
Also, there is a Matthew Maddux in Fountain Co IN. who lived in Cocke Co TN. He married Dicy Guinn/Gwin there and served in the 1812 War. He went to Fleming Co KY and then to Fountain Co IN. He lent $50.00 to Morgan Hawkins, son of Matthew Hawkins. After his death, most of Matthew Maddux’s family went to Fort Leavenworth Kansas and they are buried in Cloud County, Kansas.
In Cocke Co TN is also Valentine Maddox who came to Daviess Co KY before Matthew Hawkins and his family came in 1818. In 1817 Valentine issues a POA to William Squires in case of Settlement of Estate of James Cundiff of Adair Co KY. (James Cundiff, son of George Cundiff d Bullitt Co KY, son of Richard Cundiff and wife, Mary Brown. James died 12 Aug 1817. These Cundiffs, Squires and Valentine Maddox were from Bedford Co VA. Valentine Maddox died ca 1824 Ohio Co KY.
Also, in Cocke Co TN at the same time as Valentine and Matthew was Schofield Maddox. He also served in the 1812 War. In 1816, he m Ritty Clift.
He died in Claiborne Co TN.
I thought I would give an overview of several of these people, perhaps some of the names would be significant in your research? Thanks again for responding, 🙂 Jeanne
Hi, I am looking for information on Richard Cundiff married to Hannah Gibson (KY?) had a daughter named Amanda Cundiff b. unknown? married Oliver Hazard Hancock 07 Aug 1842 in Adair Co. KY
Any clues would be appreciated. Thanks, 2PI
April 22, 2005 at 1:43 am #23254I have been digging about on these Cundiff’s of mine. I have come up withthe following:
records show the following for Hanna Gibson, wife of Richard Cundiff. Nine Children:
1, Nancy Gibson Cundiff Born Abt 1801 in Va. She married Daniel Suddarth May 5, 1821 in Adair Co. Ky.
2, George Washington Cundiff born 10 June 1802 in Adair Co, Ky. He Married Martha Dameron on Dec 20 1830 in Casey Co. Ky.
3. John Cundiff Born 1804, He married Permilia Squires Jan 3, 1827, daughter of Uria Squires.
4, Alfred Cundiff Born Abt. 1805 in Adair Co. Ky., no marriage info available.
5, Emerella Cundiff, Born Abt 1808 in Adair Co., Ky. She married John Perry Hancock April 6, 1830 in Adair Co. Ky.
6, Milton Cundiff Born 1810 in Adair County, Ky. He married Elzie Squires, born 1812 in Va. Marrried in Adair County Apr 17, 1831.
7. O. H. Perry Cundiff ( I also have him listed as William Perry Cundiff; but I think he is Oliver Hazard Cundiff, named after his Grandfather) Born 8 Mar 1814. He married Hancock before 1838. No children by this marriage. He married Louisa Squires of Adair County on Jan 16 1838.
8. William Mortimer Cundiff Born 3 Oct 1818. He married Martha Massie, Hancock County Ill., on 29 November, 1849, She was born 20 June 1824 and died 12 June 1873.
9. Amanda M Cundiff, Born 1818 in Adair County Ky. She married Oliver Hancock in Adair County, Ky on Aug 7, 1842. They had one son Simon E. Hancock, Born about 1857 in Ky.
I understand this informaton can be verified in Bible Records collected by Adair County Genealogical Society – Guardianship Book Order Bk E p. 14 Adair Co., Ky. Also some of the birth and death dates can be verfied from tombstones in Cundiff Cemetary, Adair Co. Ky. I have yet to check the site for further information as I think so of the Bible Records have to be incomplete. Amanda Cundiff and Oliver Hazard Hancock are listed as only having the one child. I have found, I think a total of 5, so far.
Also if these Bible records are in part true and Hannah Gibson the wife of Richard Cundiff. I am wondering why and who Mary Brown is, she is not listed in the Bible records according to another researcher as a wife of Richard Cundiff.
2PI
April 22, 2005 at 1:43 am #232612PI wrote: I have been digging about on these Cundiff’s of mine. I have come up withthe following:
records show the following for Hanna Gibson, wife of Richard Cundiff. Nine Children:
1, Nancy Gibson Cundiff Born Abt 1801 in Va. She married Daniel Suddarth May 5, 1821 in Adair Co. Ky.
2, George Washington Cundiff born 10 June 1802 in Adair Co, Ky. He Married Martha Dameron on Dec 20 1830 in Casey Co. Ky.
3. John Cundiff Born 1804, He married Permilia Squires Jan 3, 1827, daughter of Uria Squires.
4, Alfred Cundiff Born Abt. 1805 in Adair Co. Ky., no marriage info available.
5, Emerella Cundiff, Born Abt 1808 in Adair Co., Ky. She married John Perry Hancock April 6, 1830 in Adair Co. Ky.
6, Milton Cundiff Born 1810 in Adair County, Ky. He married Elzie Squires, born 1812 in Va. Marrried in Adair County Apr 17, 1831.
7. O. H. Perry Cundiff ( I also have him listed as William Perry Cundiff; but I think he is Oliver Hazard Cundiff, named after his Grandfather) Born 8 Mar 1814. He married Hancock before 1838. No children by this marriage. He married Louisa Squires of Adair County on Jan 16 1838.
8. William Mortimer Cundiff Born 3 Oct 1818. He married Martha Massie, Hancock County Ill., on 29 November, 1849, She was born 20 June 1824 and died 12 June 1873.
9. Amanda M Cundiff, Born 1818 in Adair County Ky. She married Oliver Hancock in Adair County, Ky on Aug 7, 1842. They had one son Simon E. Hancock, Born about 1857 in Ky.
I understand this informaton can be verified in Bible Records collected by Adair County Genealogical Society – Guardianship Book Order Bk E p. 14 Adair Co., Ky. Also some of the birth and death dates can be verfied from tombstones in Cundiff Cemetary, Adair Co. Ky. I have yet to check the site for further information as I think so of the Bible Records have to be incomplete. Amanda Cundiff and Oliver Hazard Hancock are listed as only having the one child. I have found, I think a total of 5, so far.
Also if these Bible records are in part true and Hannah Gibson the wife of Richard Cundiff. I am wondering why and who Mary Brown is, she is not listed in the Bible records according to another researcher as a wife of Richard Cundiff.
2PI
If anyone is interested, I think I figure out the Richard Cundiff and wives question.
Richard Cundiff b. before 1712-13 Northumberland, VA d. Apr 1774 was married to Mary Ann Brown, b. England d. After 1794.
He was at one time in MD (Maryland) and moved to Bedford VA and started family. I haven’t located the marriage record. One of the Richard Cundiff’s had maybe 4 wives, the other maybe two
they had children: John b. 14 Jan 1757 Bedford VA d. 18 Sep 1837 Hardin Co., KY James and George.
My John Henry Cundiff Sr. had son Richard b. 07 Dec 1781 that married Hannah Gibson on 06 Apr 1799 in Chesterfield VA. I haven’t found all children of these marriages or placed them with correct parents (mother’s) yet.
It looks like most of the family moved to KY. This Famiily is listed on Ancesty under the History section. Big estate in Bedford, build by Richard Cundiff..where familky went to give birth and die (according to the History page) This family still a little confusing with so many like names. 2PI
April 22, 2005 at 1:43 am #23264Look for Richard Cundiff next door in 1820 Pulaski Co., Ky.
Also there are:
Benjamin Cundiff
George Cundiff
John G. Cundiff
Rebecca Cundiff
Rio(?) Cundiff.
In 1830 Adair Co., Ky; Columbia, is:
Dan’l Suddarth (Sudduth/Suddith – very old colonials)= 11006401-20001-0-0.
On p.37, same census:
line 3, 4 & 5:
Hiram Hancock = 112002-200001
Hannah Cundiff = 001110-0011001
William Hancock = 00200000001-01000001
while a Richard Cundiff is still nearby in 1830 Pulaski Co., Ky.
There’s always two.
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Bill
April 22, 2005 at 1:43 am #23266Bill Childs wrote: Look for Richard Cundiff next door in 1820 Pulaski Co., Ky.
Also there are:
Benjamin Cundiff
George Cundiff
John G. Cundiff
Rebecca Cundiff
Rio(?) Cundiff.
In 1830 Adair Co., Ky; Columbia, is:
Dan’l Suddarth (Sudduth/Suddith – very old colonials)= 11006401-20001-0-0.
On p.37, same census:
line 3, 4 & 5:
Hiram Hancock = 112002-200001
Hannah Cundiff = 001110-0011001
William Hancock = 00200000001-01000001
while a Richard Cundiff is still nearby in 1830 Pulaski Co., Ky.
There’s always two.
….
Bill
Thanks Bill, I will look around at these census. I am making a guess there was a third Richard as the 1.) Richard Cundiff married to Mary Ann Brown died in VA. 2.) Richard F. Cundiff was married to Hannah Gibson and a Permelia Zacary from what I can conclude. I came across this Richard listed as Dicky F. Cundiff but listed as his own son, because of the date of birth it didn’t match. So Richard #2 could of had a son named Richard also.
I have seen the Suddarth name come up in connection to this family too. I think it might of been in the History stuff I was reading on Ancstry. 2PI
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