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i am looking for a family by the name of Gooch ..
my greatgrandfather married Viola Gooch . she was said to be Blackfoot Indian. her mother was called squaw Gooch. they lived in the harris creek area of kentucky .. any information would be appreciated.. thankyou
Here they are………
1930 Lincoln Co., Ky Census, ED12 Hustonville, 7 April,
Harris Creek to Milledgeville Road, p.2B, at 38, 39:
TIMBERLAKE, Dewey, farmer, m, w, 33, Ky, Ky, Ky.
” , Olea, wife, f, w, 28, Ky, Ky, Ky.
with 2 dau’s,
and living with them:
GADDIS, Wesley; farm laborer, m, w, 37, m-22, Ky, Ky, Ky.
” , Viola; wife, f, w, 33, m-21, Ky, Ky, Ky.
” , Vernon; dau, f, w, 16, Ky.
” , Earl; son, m, w, 12, Ky.
” , Holbert; son, m, w, 11, Ky.
” , George W.; son, m, w, 9, Ky.
” , Ellen; dau, f, w, 4 (or 6?), Ky.
(this lists Wesley as 22 and Viola as 21 when they married but it doesn’t “compute”. All of their parents were born in Ky.)
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1920 Lincoln Co., Ky Census, ED85 Hustonville, Pct 10, 14 Jan, p.242A, at 155, 168:
GADDIS, Wesley; head, m, w, 25, Ky, Ky, Ky.
” , Viola M.; wife, f, w, 22, Ky, Ky, Ky.
” , Vernon M.; dau, f, w, 6, Ky.
” , William E.; son, 3+9/12, Ky.
” , James H.; son, 1+3/12, Ky.
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Here is Viola’s mother and siblings, father has died:
1910 Lincoln Co., Ky Census, ED57 Hustonville, Mag. Dist. 4, 23 April, p.5A, at 43?, 47? :
GOOCH, Mrs. Eva; head, f, w, 32, widow, 5/5, Ky, Ky, Ky, farmer.
” , Viola; dau, f, w, 13, Ky.****
” , Agnes; dau, f, w, 10, Ky.
” , Charles; son, m, w, 7, Ky.
” , Edward; son, m, w, 5, Ky.
” , Ethel; dau, f, w, 3, Ky.
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In 1920, the above household was Eva, 40; Charley, 17; Edward, 15; Ethel, 13.
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Viola’s parents and siblings:
1900 Lincoln Co., Ky Census, ED39 Hustonville, Pct. 1, 14 June, p.11B, at 206, 207:
GOOCH, George; head, w, m, Sept 1874, 25, m-4, Ky, Ky, Ky.
” , Ava; wife, w, f, Mar 1878, 22, m-4, Ky, Ky, Ky. (Eva)***
” , Viola; dau, w, f, Oct 1896, 3, Ky.****
” , Agnes; dau, w, f, Nov 1899, 7/12, Ky.
(George and “Ava” (Eva) have been marr’d 4 yrs.
George’s occupation is “Telegraph Operator”.)
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Lincoln Co., Ky Marriage Records
George Gooch married Eva MOUNCE on 14 Jan. 1896.
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Per 1880 Lincoln Co census, George is George W. Gooch, son of Harrison Gooch, b.abt.1854 Ky; and Martha S. Martin; Lincoln Co Marriage Records record their marriage on 15 Jan., 1873.
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Per 1880 Lincoln Co census, Eva is Eva J. Mounce, dau of James Mounce, b.abt.1848 Ky; and Sarah Catherine TARTER; Pulaski Co., Ky Marriage Records record their marriage on 26 Aug., 1866.
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I’ll post the specific census detail later to show entire families.
Bill
I just spoke to Richard Haithcock tonight. He mentioned a Governor Gooch, who ruled Virginia early on. I don’t know what that signifies, other than that it was common for Indian people to show up with names of rich people they likely had been working for.
He’s got a Gatliss name in his family, for whatever that’s worth.
George Gooch’s parents and siblings:
1880 Lincoln Co., Ky Census, p.242C:
GOOCH, Harrison; w, m, 26, farmer, Ky, Ky, Ky.
” , Martha S.; w, f, 19, wife, Ky, Ky, Ky. (nee: Martin)
” , George W.; w, m, 5, son, Ky.****
” , Roland; w, m, 3, son, Ky.
” , John M.; w, m, 2, son, Ky.
” , William G., w, m, 21, Brother, Ky, Ky, Ky.
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Harrison’s mother and siblings, father has died.
1870 Lincoln Co., Ky Census, Waynesboro Pct, 4 Aug, p.148B, at 26, 25:
GOOCH, Polly, 37, f, w, – , $400, $350, Ky.
” , Harrison; 16, m, w, farm laborer, Ky.(Harrison Singleton Gooch)
” , Thomas; 15, m, w, farm laborer, Ky.(Thomas Jefferson Gooch
” , Isabella; 13, f, w, Ky.
” , William; 12, m, w, Ky.(William Green Gooch)
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Middle names per Eric Jensen’s research – more about him later.
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Harrison’s father is Singleton Gooch, b.abt. 1825, d. 14 Sept., 1863, Memphis, Tenn, while in the U.S. Army during the Civil War.
Singleton enlisted 1 Nov 1861 and on 2 Jan 1862, was assigned to Co. G., 19th Kentucky Infantry Regiment. Fought at Vicksburg and the Red River Campaigns. Singleton was cited for Distinguished Service. Mary “Polly” A. Gooch, widow, filed for Singleton’s Pension on 17 May, 1864; Application # 51937; Certificate # 25895 (the “8” here is very difficult to make out and could be another number).
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Lincoln Co., Ky Marriage Records:
Singleton Gooch marr’d Martha A. WILLIAMS on 12 July 1862.
(Martha, Margaret and Polly are not the same persons.)
Per Eric Jensen, the Lincoln Co., Ky Marriage Records also show:
Singleton Gooch marr’d Sarah Mariah GOOCH (?) on 17 Feb 1845,
but I never found that, although Singleton’s wife in 1850 was “S. M.”, I don’t know for certain that her maiden name was Gooch.
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Harrison’s parents and siblings:
1860 Lincoln Co., Ky Census, Waynesboro P.O., 31 August, p.163A, at 1101, 1101:
Singleton GOOCH; 36, m, – , farmer, $900, $665, KY.
Margaret A. ” , 28, f, – , Ky (same as Mary “Polly”? or a 2nd wife?)
Martha S. ” , 11, f, – , Ky.
Harrison ” , 6, m, – , Ky.
Thos. J. ” , 4, m, – , Ky.
Isabel ” , 3, f, – , Ky.
Willis G. ” 1, m, – , Ky. (William)
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1850 Lincoln Co., Ky Census, District 2, 23 Sept, p.321A, at 631, 631:
Singleton Gooch; 26, m, – , farmer, $500, Ky.
S. M. ” ; 30, f, – , Ky. (Sarah Mariah, 1st wife?)
Bell ” ; 3, f, – , Ky.
M. S. ” ; 2, f, – , Ky. (the Martha S. of 1860.)
Emily ” ; 2 months, f, – , Ky.
Clementine Dane, 26, f, – , Ky.
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I could not find Bell and Emily in 1860 – they may have also died.
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Singleton Gooch’s brother and parents, a few houses before:
Dist. 2, 23 Sept, p.320A, at 613, 613 :
Thomas GOOCH Jr; 24, m, – , farmer, $500, Ky.
Thomas GOOCH Sr; 60, m, – , Ky.
Polly GOOCH, 62, f, – , Ky.
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I would not have found Singleton’s parents if I had not found a site with the following banner on it :
“From Niagara: Native and Euro-American Families
My primary area of research is the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois), particularly the Tuscarora & Seneca Nations of New York and Ontario. Don’t assume a person is a Native simply because they appear in the database.”
This belongs to Eric Jensen, email:
Eric Jensen lists Thomas & Polly Gooch as Singleton’s parents:
“Thomas Gooch, b. 1790 Ky; married 8 July 1822 Lincoln Co., Ky, Polly Singleton, b. 1788 Virginia. Consent: Christoper Singleton.
Bondsman: Christopher Singleton”.
(Christopher Singleton was in Ky by this time because the only GOOCH found in early Ky records comes from a Lincoln Co marriage on “July 29, 1788”, when “John Henderson married Nancy GOOCH, dau of Christopher Singleton”.)
But there was an earlier marriage for Thomas Gooch, who married Nancy J. Singleton (poss. Mary “Polly” Singleton’s sister?) on 11 May, 1807 Lincoln Co., Ky. A different researcher lists Thomas and Nancy’s children as: Boy, b.1809; Patsey, b. 1811.
I don’t think there was more than one Thomas Gooch in Ky, but as always, could be wrong !
Eric Jensen lists Thomas & Polly’s children as:
Alexander, b. 1823, Ky.
Singleton, b. 1825, Ky.
Thomas D., 1826, Ky.
Eliza E., b. 1827, Ky.
Nancy Jane, b. 1829, Ky.
(Jensen appears to be copying info from others so I would approach his info with a bite of caution.)
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Thomas’s children may not have been born in Lincoln Co.:
Kentucky Land Records show “Thomas Gooch & Wife” buying 300 acres in Shelby Co., Ky on May 21, 1810 (Book N, p. 265) and a
Thomas Gooch bought 39 acres on Little Barren River in Green Co., Ky, on Oct 6, 1830 (Book Z, p. 25), and I think these two are the same person and is the Thomas Gooch of Lincoln Co., but it’s only speculation.
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“Thistle”, another researcher, says Thomas Gooch’s parents are:
Liner Gooch, b.abt. 1756 Va, who marr’d on 20 Sept 1780, Rhoda TURNER, (Louisa Co.?) Va, and lists children:
Dabney, b. 22 Feb 1786 Louisa Co., Va.
Wm DIXON, b. 16 Apr 1782 Louisa Co., Va.
Thomas, b. abt. 1788 Louisa Co., Va.
Elizabeth, b. abt. 1790
John Liner, b. abt. 1790 Louisa Co., Va.
Nancy, b. abt. 1792, Louisa Co., Va.
Unknown, b.abt. 1794, Louisa Co., Va.
(The specific marriage date and date of births for the children would lead one to believe that someone has done actual research but I can’t confirm it.)
TURNER is a name we’re familiar with, and Bushtick has a DIXON/DICKSON line that looks to be Indian.
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Pure Speculation on my part:
The Thomas b.abt.1788 Louisa Co., is the same as Thomas, b.abt. 1790 Ky. “Liner” is probably a middle name and early Kentucky Land Records show a James Gooch bought 500 acres, no watercourse cited, on Dec 10, 1782, in Ky (Book 1, p.97). James and “Liner” may be the same person but that is unconfirmed and may contradict the birthdates of his children in Louisa Co., Va – or he bought the land in Ky and never moved there.
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Hope this helps.
I’ll see if I can run down the MOUNCE, MARTIN & WILLIAMS connections.
HI Bill
I got some information from a cousin that has a Gooch Bible .. it has my Goerge Gooch (married to Ava Mounce ) father as George Gooch married to a Jennie Bragsdale /Braxdel, I found a marrage date of 12-2-1869. but I am unable to find them on a 1870 census. i did find a Jennie Wilkerson who has a son named George Gooch that would be about the right age on a 1880 census . Do you have anything about them ? thanks margaret
Hi again
I found George and Jennie Gooch in 1870 houstonville , lincoln county Kentucky . they were living with Jennie Bragsdales parents
I also saw that Allen Gooch( son of Dabney and Naomi Magill )
was his father .. do you think that this is correct.?.The Bible only had George married to Jennie in it . it didnt go any farther back
It doesn’t seem to match up even tho Liner Gooch is in that same line. Let me chew on it and get back to you.
Bill
i found a allen and eunice spelled unice on 1850 census lincoln county Kentucky
allin gooch 29ys labor kentucky
unice 30 ky
W. Gooch 10 m ky
andrew Gooch 8 m ky
G. W. Gooch 5 m ky
W. J. Gooch 4 m ky
S. W. Gooch 2 m ky
I also found a Allen Gooch living in Missouri 1860 Lebanon, Cooper , Missouri
Allen Gooch 39 Ky
George Gooch 16 ky
Jane Gooch 14 ky
Lincoln Gooch 12 ky
There just are TOO many George Goochs’
After chewing on it, your bible entry is probably correct and I think what I found based on that information, proves it. Altho all the Goochs in this part of Ky go back to the same line, I did get George Gooch’s parents wrong.
I did a “process of elimination” for all George Goochs in Lincoln Co., Ky and surrounding counties, for 1870 thru 1920 since we only have George Gooch, b. Sept 1874 Ky with Ava/Eva, b. Mar 1878 Ky, on the 1900 Lincoln Co census and a marriage index listing their marriage.
In 1900 Hustonville Dist, George & family are living 7 houses away from William Gooch, b. Oct 1872, & family.
If George’s parents are George and Jennie, then the 1900 census and the following 1880 census make a lot sense.
1880 Lincoln Co, ED 70, Milledgeville census, p.270B:
WILKERSON, L. P.; m, W, 27 Blacksmith, Ky, Ky, Ky.
(ditto), JENNIE; f, w, 30, wife, Ky, Ky, Ky.****
(ditto), Hock, m, w, 4, son, Ky
(ditto), John, m, w, 2, son, Ky
(ditto), Rubie, f, w, 8/12, dau, Ky.
GOOCH, BILLY; m, w, 8, son, Ky.****
GOOCH, GEORGE; m, w, 6, son, Ky****
WILKERSON, Jennie; f, w, 50, Mother, Ky, Ky, Ky.
This is the only George Gooch who fits all particulars.
So, Jennie m’d George Gooch in 1869, was living with her parents in 1870 and George Gooch Sr died before 1880 and she remarried L.P Wilkerson and had a few more children. “Billy” Gooch is most likely the William Gooch living near George and Ave/Eva in 1900.
Allen Gooch marr’d Eunice SINGLETON on 23 April 1839 in Lincoln Co., Ky. She probably was his cousin because these two lines in Pulaski & Lincoln counties were already interrelated several times – which I think is a mark of distinction 🙂
Some researchers think Allen was the son of Thomas (Dabney’s brother) and Polly Singleton but I think they got Allen mixed up with Thomas’s son Alexander who lived in the same area of Lincoln Co. and was b.abt. 1823. Another reason they thought Allen was Thomas’s son is that he was living in the same area in 1850 which is just good enough to suspect they are related in some way without proving “how” they are related. Well, Dabney was living in the same area. )
Now, comparing the 1850 Lincoln Co Ky and 1860 Cooper Co Mo
census show these to be the same family. Regarding the 1850 entry for Allen’s son “S.W.” – the “S” is probably an “L”.
The key to proving who Allen’s parents are will require someone getting some documentation of when he was born, or find him in Dabney or Thomas Gooch’s Wills if they exist.
The 2 census we have him on lists him b.abt. 1821. A couple researchers show him born 1823. It will make some difference since his ‘alledged’ father Dabney remarried on 16 July 1822 Lincoln Co Ky to Naomi Magill, his second wife. If Allen was b.1823, he is Naomi’s son. If he was b.1821, he’s probably the 1st wife’s son. (My bet is on 1821). She was Ruth Watson DUNN, b.abt. 1787 Louisa Co., Va, d. “before 1822” (which means they don’t know) Lincoln or Pulaski Co., Ky. Her gravestone date could make a difference but most of them that old are in pretty bad shape.
Dabney Gooch, was b. 22 Feb 1786, also in Louisa Co., Va. There is additional Deed info to support this, as well as who Ruth’s parents and grandparents were, DUNN/WEST, DUNN/TERRY & ANDERSON/?, HUGHES/HESTER (I would question if “Hester” was the lady’s surname or her middle name, tho.)
I’ve seen all those surnames on this forum or specifically related to mixed lines of the 1700s.
Bill
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