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Hmmm. Seems to be a lot smoke there so there may be something back there.
Are you talking about the Genealogy.com message boards?
You probably already know this but on those boards, you can use the “Search this forum:” block (on the left just above the message listings) to type in any keyword such as “indian”, “1799” or a first name or whatever it is you want to pull up.
Bill
Bill, these boards are at RootsWeb.com. I’ll have to check out the other site, too. I saw something else last night that I hadn’t noticed yet. (First 600 posts) Not only are the Meadows in “clusters” but wherever they are…… WVa, Ky, Ala, Okla or Texas……. they are marrying Hayes, Martin, and Spencer, almost as if they are migrating as a group.
Someone on one of these threads has identified clusters of Saponi in some of these same states. Would whoever has that info please post the exact locations by county, town or river basin? I will note exact locations of these groups as I continue to browse the Meadows board. I’ll bet these are the Saponi clusters.
Also, if we can take Daniel Meadows (Groves father) back one more generation, I think I’ll be able to connect my branch to some of the branches on that other board.
The Person Co Heritage books are so full of info that I haven’t even scratched the surface and have already taken 4 branches of the “wives” back another generation. I have 6 generations of Newton men but none of the wives were searched. I have added dates to my trees and got parents of 4 of these wives. I’m having a blast……. this is SO interesting and exciting.
peace
Ken
Meadows prior to 1800 in your area of NC:
There are no Meadows/Meddows listed in N.C. Headrights from 1663 to 1744.
1755 Granville Co., NC: Tax Lists and in Colonial Census:
James Meadows
William Meadows
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In 1764, Bute Co was created from a part of Granville Co.
(It’s my opinion that the Bute Co Meadows are related to the early Granville Co ones since the earlier Daniel is mentioned in Bute Co.)
1767 thru 1772 Bute Co, John Meadows is mentioned:
Oct 1767 Court:
John Meadows, among others, to open and maintain a road from Eaton’s Road to the main county road leading to Halifax.
August 1768 Court:
John Jones is appointed overseer of the road in the room of Dan’l Meadows.
(This is presumably the Daniel Meadows who marr’d Sarah Perdue in 7 May 1782 Granville Co.)
15 August 1770:
John Meadows served on a Grand Jury.
14 Feb 1772:
John Meadows hands, among others, to open and clear a road thru Reedy Swamp to the main road to Halifax town.
12 Nov 1772:
John Meadows witnessed a deed from James Belcher & Hugh Belcher to Benjamin Weathers.
9 August 1774:
The last will and testament of John Meadows, dec’ed, was presented in Court and proved by the oath of Isham Edwards a witness thereto and ordered to be recorded; and probate granted to Hanah Meadows his widow who was qualified accordingly.
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1769 Granville Co NC Census:
James Meadows
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1773 Bute Co Tax List:
Isham Meadows
Daniel Meadows (marr’d Sarah Purdue in 1782 Granville Co?)
John Meadows
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1779. Bute County was abolished and records transferred to Warren and Franklin Counties.
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1784 Granville Co NC Tax List:
James Meadows
Jesse Meadows
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1786 Granville Co NC Tax List:
Daniel Meadows, Tara River District.
James Meadows, Tara River District.
Michael Meadows, Tara River District.
Jesse Meadows, Nap of Reeds District.
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1786 Warren Co NC Tax List
Thomas Meadows, Clanton”s District.
Isham Meadows, Harris’s District.
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1790 Granville Co., NC Census:
(from index only – can’t find the records)
Daniel Meadows
James Meadows
Jesse Meadows
Michael Meadows
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1790 Warren Co., NC Census:
Isham Meadows = 1 white male over 16; 4 white females.
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1793 Person Co., NC Tax List:
Daniel Meadows, St. James District.
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Other Meadows in 1790 NC Census:
1 Carteret Co.
1 Caswell Co.
1 Cumberland Co.
5 Fayette Co (created 1784 from Cumberland Co.)
3 Iredell Co.
5 Jones Co.
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1800 Granville Co NC Census:
James Meadows
household contains:
1 male 26 to 44.
1 male 45 & over.
1 female 16 to 25.
1 female 45 & over.
6 slaves.
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Jessee Meadows
household contains:
2 males under 10.
2 males 10 to 15.
2 males 16 to 25.
1 male 45 & over.
2 females under 10.
1 female 10 to 15.
1 female 26 to 44.
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John Meadows
household contains
1 male 16 to 25.
1 male 26 to 44.
5 females under 10.
2 females 10 to 15.
1 female 16 to 25.
1 female 45 & over.
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Michael Meadows
household contains
4 males under 10.
2 males 10 to 15.
1 male 26 to 44.
2 females under 10.
1 female 10 to 15.
1 female 26 to 44.
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I ran into an interesting tidbit in Person Co Heritage Vol 1. family 666. Not only did Sula Clement Meadows Newton raise her own 13 children but also finished raising the Luther Humphries children who’s mother died in 1918 and later their father. I would like to find out more about these children….their names……. how many……their mother’s name….. who the children married…..
I’d like to meet the grandchildren of these Humphries children
We have 2 community churches in Moriah. Bethany Baptist (est 1883….. at which time Moriah was called “5 forks”) and Siloam. At Siloam you will find Dayes, Hayes, and Bass among others.
The writeup for Bethany in Heritage Vol 1 Article 55 gives these names… among others…. as pasters
Jenkins, Hairfield, Harris, Hudson, Martin, Currin, Hayes and Lynch
as deacons
Cash, Newton, Meadows, Bass, Davis, Day, Clayton, Palmer, Winstead
I would like to find out more about these children….their names……. how many……their mother’s name….. who the children married…..
I’d like to meet the grandchildren of these Humphries children
Well…….. I may know one of them…. my sister in law LOL
Her grandmother was Wilma Humphries ……. she married a Wheeler then Connie Vaughn (if my mom’s memory is right)
Wilma had a brother named Bill? maybe.
Mom remembers SIL relating how her grandma knew about the Newton homeplace because that’s where she grew up.
From the Militia Muster Rolls for War of 1812
*****************************************************FOURTH REGIMENT PERSON COUNTY
JOHN BRADSHAW CAPTAIN
WILLIAM BAGLEY 1ST LIEUTENANT
BRADSHAW FULLER 2ND LIEUTENANT
JEREMIAH DIXON ENSIGN
JOHN SCOGGINS
VINCENT LEA
MORGAN FITTS
McFARLAND OAKLEY
ELIJAH O’BRIANT
SAMUEL WINSTEAD
ROBERT CARTER
WM. ROYSTER
SAMUEL WHEELER
REUBEN LEA
JOHN RUSSEL
WM. SOUTHWARD
DOWNEY WADE
RICHARD HARRIS SR.
JOHN RIGGS
DRURY PULLIAM
SAMUEL BURKE
THOMAS MARIT
RICHARD BROACH
JOSEPH M. STANFIELD
ROBERT JONES
RANSOM AUSTIN
CHURCHWELL JONES
JOHN BROOKS
ANDERSON JONES
SAMUEL BULL
JAMES JONES
DANIEL REASE
MARK GLENN
JOHN JAS. BROOKS
DANIEL MEADOWS *******
ALLEN GREEN
RICHARD FARRER
HENRY BAILEY
SAMUEL MANGRUM
JOHN BUCKANAN
RILEY SUIT
THOS. TOWNSEND
CASWELL VAUGHAN
DANIEL WALKER
JEREMIAH ROBERTS
WM. BUCKANAN
WM. CATES
WYATT FORD
SETH COLEMAN
JOHN WILKERSON
JAMES COZORT
HASTIN BLALOCK
DANIEL HICKS
WM. MANN
AMBROSE DAY
WM. HILL
AMBROSE DARY
BENJAMIN SAMPSON
ARCHIBALD DAY
GRANT ALLEN
JAMES HAY
JOHN PARROT
WYATT PAINTER
WM. BUMPASS
THOMAS GILL
WM. ELLIOT
JOSIAH OLIVER
GILLIAM MITCHELL
PETER WARREN
PLEASANT HALL
JOHN HARRALSON
WM. MARTIN
GEORGE BERRY
EDWARD JOHNSTON
JAMES JOHNSTON
RICHARD JONES
DAVID BELL
JAMES BRADSHAW
HENRY LIPSCOMB
JAMES DOLLARHIDE
VINCENT BRADSHAW
Dreaminghawk,
I’m working on finding those kids but bear in mind that these kinds of records after 1930 are mostly only found in the county courthouse. The Humphries kids were scattered by 1930 with 3 of them in Roxboro. I’ll get back to you after the holiday. Turkey calls !
Bill
Deed, Daniel Meadows to Thomas Cozart
North Carolina Division of Archives & History, Person, NC Deeds, Book D,Page 355
This indenture made this 17th day of October in the year of 1806 between Daniel Meddows of the County of Person and State of North Carolina and Thomas Cozart of the County aforesaid of the other part. Witnesseth that for and in consideration of one hundred pounds Virginia money….. (snipped) …… . InWitness whereof have hereunto set my hand and fixed my seal this day and date first above written, Daniel Meaders Test:Millington Blalock, Senior Benjamin Cozart, Jurat State of North Carolina, Person County, February 6, 1813 } The execution of this deed was duly proven in open court by Benjamin Cozart, subscribing witness thereto and ordered to be recorded Jesse Dickins, County Clerk
I just noticed that in the above deed, Meadows is also spelled Meddows and Meaders in same document…… referring to the same Daniel…… interesting….
Bill says>>>>> but bear in mind that these kinds of records after 1930 are mostly only found in the county courthouse.
Bill, I have a whole list of wills and land transfers indexed on-line which I will be looking up at Person co courthouse at some point this winter. If you or any others have items you need me to search for while I’m there, I’ll be glad to do it. Keep in mind that I LIVE in the area that many are looking for roots in and I would be glad to do the legwork at courthouse and cemetaries locally.
peace
Ken
I talked to Rich Haithcock yesterday. He said he was doing some research on old NC families likely Saponi and he mentioned the Pettiford name. I believe that was in Guilford County.
He also says he was seeing some old names in the 1790-1850 period in Cumberland, Bladen, Iredell, Davie, Sampon and Rowan counties that look like various spelling of the word “Saponi” sepnis, sappunis, etc. Also, the surname Tatero, if anybody else wants to pursue this.
I had inquired about the Humphries children raised by Sula Meadows Newton….. still don’t know much more about the children but at Bethany Baptist church…….buried right next to Sula’s 3 dead babies are these stones…….
HUMPHRIES*
–J. A. b. 6-6-1839 d. 9-18-1898
–Carolina Virginia, wife of JAH b. 5-12-1844 d. 11-7-1918
–J. L. b. 8-16-1877 d. 12-11-1920
–Mary E. Clayton, wife of JLH b. 3-18-1882 d. 10-19-1918
–Louetta J. b. 4-15-1861 d. 19-16-1911
The Spanish flu of 1918 not only got the children’s mother but also their grandmother……. their father died in 1920 and that’s when Sula took them to raise. btw….. not sure who Louetta is but she is right next to Mary.
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