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These are Tom’s Hardins.
Priscilla was a Carey/Cary.
1880 Lancaster Co., Ne., Census, Dist 257 Oak Twp, p.281c,
Hardin, James, m, Mu, 66, farmer, SC, DC, NC (first two incorrect)
Hardin, Percilla, f, Mu, 63, wife, Tn, Tn, Tn.
Hardin, Alexander, m, Mu, 33, son, Ind, SC, Tn.
Hardin, Casstola, f, Mu, 19, dau, Wi, SC, Tn.
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1860 Racine Co., Wi., Census, Caledonia, at 428, 428:
James G. Hardin, 46, m, C, Day Lab’r, SC****
Presilia Hardin, 37, f, C, SC.****
Millford Hardin, 20, m, C, Tenn.****
Cyrus Hardin, 18, m, C, Tenn. (Twin)
Sharod Hardin, 18, m, C, Tenn. (Twin)
Alexander Hardin, 13, m, C, Ind. ****
Nomy Hardin, 11, f, C, Ind.
Spice Harind, 9, f, C, Ind.
Emerlin Hardin, 6, f, C, Ind.
William Hardin, 3, m, C, Ind.
George Hardin, 25, m, C, Lab’r, Tenn.
Edward Digs, 20, m, C, Lab’r, Tenn.
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1850 Martin Co., Ind., Census, p.34A:
James Hardin, 36, m, M, farmer, $0, NC****
Milford Hardin, 10, m, M, Tenn.****
Cyrus Hardin, 8, m, M, Tenn.****
Sharod Hardin, 5, m, M, Tenn.****
Alexander M. Hardin, 4, m, M, Ind.****
Naomi Hardin, 9 months, f, M, Ind.****
Elizabeth COLLINS, 12, f, M, Ind.
Priscilla Hardin, 29, f, M, Ind.****
The only Cary/Carey in 1850 Martin Co., Ind., Census, p.40B:
Elizabeth Cary, 52, f, M, -, $300, Va.
William Cary, 24, m, M, laborer, Tenn.
Catharine COLLINS, 91, f, M, -, Tenn.
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James Hardin’s brother (per Tom’s info) is also in 1850 Martin Co., Ind, p.31B:
Beaman Hardin, 40, m, W, farmer, $0, NC. (Berman/Berryman)
Sylva hardin, 50, f, W, NC.
William H. Hardin, 22, m, W, Tenn.
Nancy Hardin, 18, f, W, Tenn.
Wilson P. Hardin, 13, m, W, Tenn.
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These Hardins lived among the families of WILLIAMS, RANEY WOOD, HAWKINS and several more interesting surnames (which I didn’t write down but will, and post later) also found in nearby Gibson and Knox Co’s, Ind.
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1840 White Co., Tenn, Middle District, p.4:
James Hardin = 30001 – 00001
household contains:
3 males under 5. (one count in error.)
1 male 20 to 29.
1 female 20 to 29.
Carey and Collins families (FPC) lived here in 1840.
Alfred Carey
Elizabeth Collins
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Milford CARY in 1820 White Co., Tenn, an FPC family:
1 male over 45.
1 female 15 to 25.
2 females 26 to 45.
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I’m only speculating at this time, that James G. Hardin’s middle name was Gibson, but it looks like a good bet at this point.
Bill
I just went from here to check my email and had another inquiry from somebody browsing the Blackfoot article. He’s asking about Hardens! I tell you, this goes on all the time. Two messages today involving the Jarman name, too, from people who have no idea about each other, and don’t know anything about this “cross-posting.” I guess we’ll have to call this the “Blackfoot cross post.”
The “C” is “Colored”. They were White in Tenn. As you know, some of this is due to progression in time as perceptions changed.
Iam not sure if Berman an James were kin they may have been ,the family is listed as black, mullatto and white over the consecutive years, I guess they did not pass away, just faded away, ther odd how people get labeled.
Occassionally the Carey has been spelled many ways not even resembling Carey at all, Alfred is probaly Milford or Melford depending on how the hand writing is translated or interpreted.
I have not found much on this family before these dates.
Anyone having the names Berman should look at the old court records from White Co. Tn, te name starts out as “Little Berry Man” and gets bastardized down to berman and Beaman etc, could this be a Sixsapaha name? Be very interesting if it was.
This cross posting , is very interesting, one day Iam sure that we will find our cousins here, look at the size of James’ family, each one of those children had families and some of them very large ones,
James son Milford had Angeline her picture is posted in “Tom’s family”, Milford had about 8 children, Angeline had 3 that survived long enough to have a families of thier own.
Angelines children had atleast 6 kids each, my Grandmother had about 12 children, it is possible that James could have as many as 18000 desendants.
Iam sure one day we’ll be “Cross Posting ” our cousins.
Tom,
Here’s just a sketch of a work in progress ……
I think Alfred and Milford Cary are two different people with Alfred being Milford’s son.
In 1840 White Co., Tenn, Alfred Carey is 36 to 55 yrs old and there’s no other Carey around.
In 1820 White Co., Tenn, Milford Cary isn’t shown with an ennumeration altho he’s listed on the census. Need to find out what happened to him – He had land surveyed in White Co between 1824-1828.
A lot of Tenn people served with Ky units during the War of 1812 and there is a Pvt. Milford Cary in Lewis’s 5th Regiment of Ky Volunteers who doesn’t show up on any other Ky records. This doesn’t prove that this Milford could not have been the later Alfred, but it just doesn’t make any sense to me that they are the same people.
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Tom’s James G. Hardin is part of this line:
Benjamin Hardin, b.abt.1660, d.19 Jun 1734 Surry Co.(?), Va., married Sarah STANLEY. Their son……
Benjamin Hardin, b.abt. 1712 Mecklenburg Co., NC, married abt.1730 Sarah HOOPER. Their sons….
(probable son Abraham COLLINS Hardin)..
Joseph Hardin 1734 NC – 1801 Hardin’s Valley, Tenn m’d Jane Jean GIBSON. Their son…
1) Col. Joseph Hardin, 1763 NC – d.1825 Tenn. (his dau Elender m’d a THACKER, (a name that popped up on this forum recently.)
2) Benjamin Hardin, 1775 NC – m’d Martha BARNETT.
Benjamin & Martha had a son named James Gibson Hardin – don’t know where Benj. & Martha went but it’s probably to Tenn with siblings’ families and James Gibson Hardin does show up in Tenn.
Col. Joseph Hardin moved abt. 1816 from Roane Co Tenn to Hardin Co., Tenn. White Co is midway between these two counties. While I don’t regard this as “proof”, it makes the following a whale of a coincidence.
In 1840 Hardin Co, p.37, are Gibson Hardin, Gibson G. Hardin and Alexander M. Hardin, the later being the same as the name of one of James G. Hardin’s sons.
In Rutherford Co., NC, marriages:
Benjamin Hardin m’d Elizabeth SCOTT, 31 Dec 1782.
Hardy Hardin m’d Tabitha ROBERTS, 4 Jul 1805.
Mrs Ginna Hardin m’d Jacob COLLINS, 17 Mar 1807.
Young John Hardin m’d Mary COLLINS, 14 Feb 1808.
And then we have these Collins people living with Hardin and Cary families in 1850 Martin Co., Ind, and now it doesn’t look like such a mystery if these are the same family lines from NC & Tenn, which I think they are. Like I said, it’s a work in progress. Bill
Hello Bill thanks for this , also I have sen the name Edward Diggs as a tenant in the house of James in WI, as southern name aswell.
It’s late and I have to run so I’ll get back to this but as I have said in our letters Thank you very much for this , all the best, Tom
Still not done with these lines. Don’t know specifically “how” James G. fits into this, just know that he has to because that is the only Hardin line in the area at that time.
hey Bill, well Iam not sure either how James fits in, but there was also a Abraham and Solomon in White co. at the same time. The one event that I did find is that they were in NC prior to moving into Tn.
Iam not sure if they are kin, I’d say that they were because they moved at the same time from area to area.
I think that the women that some of these Hardins married were Native women but where and when I have no idea.
Thanx Bill
Hello bill, well thinking about it John Wesley Hardin is supposed to be Angeline hardins 2nd cousin, I do not have a Hardin tree in ffront of me but that may add some light to which James hardin line that he fits into, rather odd that no one is looking for him, but really I did see a cousins name from Iowa that had been looking for one of his son’s and I hope to call her this week end.
Any way thank you for all your help, Tom
Tom,
Having rechecked that Hardin info, I’m fairly covinced that this is the line as I laid it out, but additional fleshing-out is required. Let me know if there’s additional info developed from your telephone call or anything else we can do to push this back in time.
Bill
hello Bill, well I was reading about John Wesley Hardin the gun fighter and his father was also named James Gibson Hardin, do you know of a complete hardin family tree that is laid out w/ each generation, it looks asthough it is still being sorted out.
The occurance of 2 people in the same family is odd perhaps one is a generation previous to the other.
The real kicker here is that the Hardin line in Texas is “white ” looking and my family was listed as black fpc etc, so what gives anything that you could add to this would really help. Thanx Tom
I once saw a photo of John Wesley Hardin and my reaction was (and is) that he had to be a mixed-Indian person.
It becomes an ‘academic exercise’ in that racial nomenclatures were arbitrarily applied in the past and shouldn’t be taken seriously (time period and region dependant) unless you know for a fact what race a particular person was, and of course, there is no certain way to know.
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