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November 17, 2004 at 7:11 pm #1220
I am researching my family history. It has come to my attention that on my great grandmothers side of the family there is Blackfoot Indian. My great grandmothers maiden name was Spurr. Her mothers name was Ellen K Holtz. Her parents were John Holtz from Germany and Lydia Ann Ford of Doddridge West Virginia (Virginia at the time). I am thinking the connection is very close to my great grandmother as the stories I have heard seem to suggest her grandmother which would be Lydia Ann Ford. I do know that in the 1880 census Lydia is listed as Lydean Ford and she did not put where her parents were born. I am wondering if she may have been taken in by the Ford family as that is who she lists as her parents int he marriage record. If you have any info and don’t mind sharing, please let me know. Thank you in advance.
November 17, 2004 at 7:11 pm #11600Welcome to the Forum, Barbara,
Hope we can help.
What are the names of her parents that were listed on the marriage record?
Bill
November 17, 2004 at 7:11 pm #11604Her name on the marriage record is Lydia Ann Ford, she was 21 on the day of her marriage which was 8-9-1810 in Doddridge County. She lists her parents as Oldridge (Which I think is actually Aldridge) and Nancy Ann Ford. On the 1880 census she shows up as a widow with the kids. She does not answer the question for where her parents were born. It was blank for both. I also found it strange that one of her biological children later in census put “Unknown” for mothers birthplace. I am wondering if maybe she was taken in or adopted by this family. I am at a total loss with her. If she truely is the biological child of Aldridge and Nancy Ford I just don’t understand why she would not put down where her parents were born. Any help at all is greatly appreciated. Thank you!
November 17, 2004 at 7:11 pm #11606Barbara,
I thought “Lidean” could be “Lidy Ann” = “Lydia Ann”.
So, looking for an Aldridge or Oldridge Ford in Doddridge Co., I found the only one there DID have a daughter named “ANN” and she is the correct age…… I think this is her:
On the 1870 Doddridge Co, WV Fed Census, Grant Twp, P.O.: West Union, WV; dated 6 July; pg.14:
FORD, Oldridge; 57, m, W, Farmer, $0, $100, Va.
…….., Nancy; 56, f, W, Va.
…….., James; 19, m, W, Va.
…….., Alfred; 13, m, W, Va.
…….., Mary A.; 27, f, W, Va.
…….., Marie; 24, f, W, Va.
…….., ANN; 20, f, W, Va.*******
…….., Herman; 8, m, W, Va.
Next door is
FORD, Richard; 23, m, W, Farmer, $0, $250, Va.
…….., Eveline; 28, f, W, Va.
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1860 Doddridge Co., Va Fed Census; P.O.: West Union; 29 June; pg. 518, at 488, 489:
Aldridge FORD, 50, m, – , farmer, $300, Va.
Nancy, 45, f, -, Va.
Emily, 18, f, Va.
Mary, 16, f, Va.
Eliza, 13, f, Va.
Maria, 11, f, Va.
Richard, 10, m, Va.
ANNA, 9, f, Va.*******
James, 7, m, Va.
H., 6, f, Va.
A.A., 6, f, Va. (these 2 prob. twins)
John, 4, m, Va.
Alfred, 2, m, Va.
Mary HERALD, 80, f, -, Va.
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Va Marr. Records:
Aldridge FORD m’d Nancy Harrell on 31 July 1840 Harrison Co., Va.
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World Family Tree Vol.153, Tree 349, lists Aldridge Ford, b.abt. 1815 Fauquier Co., Va. as the son of Thomas Ford, b.13 Dec 1794, d. 8 Mar 1860 Doddridge Co., Va; marr’d Elizabeth “Betsy” DYE on 8 Mar 1814 in Fauquier Co., Va. Thomas Ford as well as Willis “Herald” were both living in Harrison Co., (W)Va in 1840, listed below. There is a second “marriage” date for Thomas and “Betsey” of 6 Oct 1815 Fauquier Co., but this may be the “Return” date it was officially recorded – not a very rare event.
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1850 Doddridge Co., Va Fed Census; District 13; 24 Sept, pg. 25A, at 380, 346:
Aldridge FORD, 35, m, -, farmer, $0, Va.
Nancy, 34, f, -, Va.
Emily, 9, f, Va.
Mary A., 7, f, Va.
Eliza, 5, f, Va.
Mariah, 3, f, Va.
Richard, 2, m, Va.
ANNA, 1, f, Va.*******
Willis HERREL, 70, m, – , farmer, $300, Va.
Mary HERREL, 65, f, – , Va.
Willis & Mary Herrel are most likely Nancy’s parents.
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Also in Doddridge Co., Va census, Dist. 13; pg.26B, at 403:
Thomas FORD, 56, m, – , farmer, $3000, Va.
next door at 404 is:
Hannah FORD, 66, f, – , N.J.
James, 20, m, – , Va.
Mary, 19, f, – , Va.
Francis HERREL, 57, f, – , Va.
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Doddridge Co was created in 1845 from parts of Harrison, Tyler, Ritchie and Lewis Counties.
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1840 Harrison Co., Va;
Page 68:
Willis HERALD = 00001101 – 00001001 – 0 – 0.
household contained:
1 male 20 to 29 yrs old.
1 male 30 to 39.
1 male 50 to 59 (prob. should be 60 to 69??)
1 female 20 to 29 (may be Nancy – census pages not indiv. dated)
1 female 50 to 59.
Page 80:
Thomas FORD = 0012101 – 01120001 – 0 – 0.
household contained:
1 male 10 to 14.
2 males 15 to 19.
1 male 20 to 29 (Aldridge?)
1 male 40 to 49 (Thomas)
1 female 5 to 9.
1 female 10 to 14.
2 females 15 to 19.
1 female 50 to 59. (maybe the Hannah Ford of 1850? Thomas’ wife Elizabeth Dye is reported to have died 10 Feb 1833 in Harrison Co.)
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More later…. Willis “Harrold”, 40 to 49, is in 1830 Harrison Co and he appears to also come from Fauquier Co., but need more data.
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Elizabeth Dye, b. 13 Apr 1794, d. 1833 Harrison Co., dau of George Dye who marr’d abt. 1790 Rebecca Dye (poss. a cousin) dau of Fauntleroy Dye (d.1810 Hodgenville, Ky) and Ann Kelley.
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Bill
November 17, 2004 at 7:11 pm #11608Bill,
Wow, Thank you for all the info. I had most of it in on the Fords. I am not sure where the connection is with Indians. My grandmother has talked about the Indian blood in the family. I have connected with others from the Spurr/Holtz line and they also know of the Indian blood. My mother spoke with her cousin and she said she remembers their grandfather talking about it as well and referred to the Blackfoot Indians. He was married to Adah I Spurr. She was the daughter of Rolfe Spurr and Ellen Holtz of Doddridge Co. How do I make the connection to this blood? I am at a lost.
November 17, 2004 at 7:11 pm #11614I’m not certain at this point.
The Fauquier Co FORDs came from Frederick Co., Va., around 1800 and earlier, and it looks like (not proven) the HARRELLs do, too.
In 1840 Fauquier Co., Martha HARRELL, age 70 to 79, had an FPC (Free Person of Color – a common designation of Indian) female of 10 to 23 yrs old in her household. I don’t know who she is.
Additionally, there are FORD/Fauree/Foree lines out of central Virginia of Indian descent.
November 17, 2004 at 7:11 pm #11617Bill,
Thank you so much for all the info and knowledge you have provided. I am greatly appreciated.
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