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NEW RIVER
A rugged, white water river, flowing northward through deep canyons, the New River is among the oldest rivers on the continent.
Located in southern West Virginia, It flowes through Virginia and into North Carolina.
FLATT RIVER
http://home.attbi.com/~p.a.miller/genealogy/narr/danieljames.htm
About 1/4 way down this site is a map. It points out where the Flatt River Baptist Church was and also the North Fork of Flatt River.
Hope this helps.
Brenda[/QUOTe
My aunts, cousins, etc, still live in the New River area, though moved north to Nicholas County, WV. Breathtaking country…
I just noticed this thread, at the beginning you folks mentioned an Alexander Ritchie born around 1763 who was an Indian spy with the clinch scouts.
I am descent from an Alexander Ritchey who was born in 1711 in Botetourt county Virginia. He had a son named William, who died in 1775, and William had a son named William born in 1775. This family eventually ended up in SW Virginia around Bristol area and Wise county, before ending up in Johnson City, TN. These folks were said to be mixed race, and the old pictures of my Richie ancestor and relatives suggest that was true.
I haven’t gotten around to doing any research on my Richey/Ritchie family yet, but I got this info from my grandma who got it from her grandma and aunts. I also remember my great great aunt mentioning the name Clinch associated with these folks, I think they lived somewhere with that name. So perhaps my Ritcheys are related to this clinch scout. But then my aunt also claimed that her great grandpa James Ritchey was governor of Virginia, and I know that wasn’t true!
White Hawk,
No doubt everyone in extreme Southwest VA knew each other at that time. And they probably spent time together in the forts too during Indian threats. The Carters built Carter Fort in the Rye Cove of Scott Co. VA. It’s near Clinchport today. Patrick Porter was also a prominent figure although not always “upstanding” from the reports I’ve read. He and several others were investigated for supposedly “ambushing” a rough character that the law was looking for anyway. The man was found murdered on a road. I think the man had been accused of stealing from Porter and others. Also Patrick Porter was indicted from “drinking and swearing on the Lord’s day” but the charges were dismissed, I assume because Porter had a lot of political pull at that time. Patrick Porter is my 6th gr. grandfather. Now I know where I get my “attitude” from!
The Carter brothers, Thomas, Norris, and my 4th gr. grandfather, Joseph, were born in Farquier, VA. The three brothers are thought to have moved to Scott Co. VA. sometime around the early 1780’s. So they were around for all the Bob Benge raids (who is also related through my Mark line) during the late 1780’s and early 1790’s period. If I’m not mistaken, this is the same time period that the Gibson and Collins families begin showing up on Newman’s Ridge. To my knowledge, the Carters nor the Porters were Long Hunters. But both families served the local militia which goes without saying. I think that when the Indians attacked, everyone was the militia, including women and children.
Jim
vance hawkins wrote: http://64.4.16.250/cgi-bin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=be0113ab7111d3d2c6cf8bc55befec5e&lat=1053626704&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fscott%2ek12%2eva%2eus%2fhistory%2fpriorto%2ehtml
Now the Brown/Guess/Looney ancestors went to Winston/Walker/Lawrence Counties (eventually) in Alabama and we just came back from a visit there. Every one there KNOWS the first settlers there were mixed bloods and the state recognized “Echota Cherokees” are descended from them!
There were(are?) a large group of my Riddles who moved to Walker County, Alabama. They can be traced back to Johnson “Rake” Riddle, grandson of William Riddle and great-grandson of Moses Riddle (I have a lot of this line written out in detail from the 1884 Riddle-Ridlon book).
From what I have found Johnson “Rake” Riddle was in Bledsoe County, TN with the rest of the Riddles in the 1820s. He moved to Pulaski County, MO with some of his brothers and cousins (my family) around 1830, before heading back east and settling in Alabama.
This riddle info is very interesting as my wife’s g-fa was a Riddle who lived in Coffee Co Tn. where I met her
Aubrey
Aubrey G. Cole wrote: This riddle info is very interesting as my wife’s g-fa was a Riddle who lived in Coffee Co Tn. where I met her
Aubrey
Well, Coffee County is not too far west of Bledsoe County.
Do you have any information on that line? I might be able to help if you give me a few names…
Rockhound;
My wife’s g-father was John Marion Riddle he married Ester Mae Hice, His father was John Henry Riddle who married Mamie Waggoner, his father was John Will Riddle who mMarried Betty ???
Her g-mother Ester Mae Hice’s father was Rubin or Rubine Hice who married Callie Lawson, Rubin’s fa was Tom Hice wife u/k, Callie Lawson’s father was Tom Lawson who married Sallie ???
My wife Lila Darlene Farris’s mother was Gladys Riddle who married James Willard Farris.
This is all the info we are able to obtain on her family other than story that the riddles had left va or ky at the begining of the Civil War.
Aubrey G Cole
Rockhound;
I called my mo-in-law and this is the info I recieved
John Marion Riddle b June 6 1900 in Franklin Co Tn died March 19 1980 Tullahoma Tn
John Henry Riddle b. may 30 1878 ??Tenn. died Sept 03, 1953 Franklin Co Tn
John Will Riddle was unable to obtain any dates. Also John Henry may have been Henry John Riddle they are not sure.
Aubrey Cole
Aubrey,
I can’t find a match with the information I have on my particular line.
There may still be a connection with some of these descendants of William “Tory” Riddle. This list is taken from:
http://www.jimcal.com/v04is01.htm (note, I am not listed under John and Sary (Johnson) Riddle, which is where I fit in.
DESCENDANTS
EIGHT KNOWN CHILDREN OF WILLIAM AND HAPPY RIDDLE:
1) (Moses?) Riddle – assumed to be the oldest son, and was hanged with his father at Wilkesboro, Wilkes Co., NC in late May or early June, 1781.
2) James Riddle – went to Cumberland County, KY. Some say he died in Cumberland Co., KY and others say he died in Missouri or Illinois. Children: James, George and others.
Descendants:
3) John Riddle – m. Sary Johnson, dau. of Moses Johnson. Went to Bledsoe County, TN and then to Pulaski Co., MO. Died in 1833. Children: At least six children.
Descendants:
4) Joseph Riddle – m. Rhoda Monk, dau. of Shadrack Monk and Polly Roberts. Went to Cumberland County, KY and died in 1856. A number of children.
Descendants:
Rebecca A. Wennermark
3263 South 500 West
New Palestine, IN 46163
Jennifer L. Mullen (sister of Rebecca)
6779 West Lora Drive
Boggstown, IN 46110
Lourene England Vaden
45 Gloster Road
Lawrenceville, GA 30244
Kerry Fleming
237 Braeshire
Manchester, MO 63021
Tim Riddle
1120 Carol Lane
Cookeville, TN 38501
William R. Riddle
429 Arballo Drive
San Francisco, CA 94132
Mildred Church
201 South 6th Street
Deepwater, MO 64740
Fairy Neathery
511 Casey Branch Road
Burkesville, KY 42717
Marilyn Wilson
PO Box 618
Chewelah, WA 99109
Helen Blair
1336 North Eustis Drive
Cumberland, IN 46229
Jean Schooler
6195 South State Road 267
Lebanon, IN 46052
5) Isaac Riddle – b. Hawkins Co., TN, moved to Pendleton Co., KY 1805, to Boone Co., KY 1814, to Texas in 1843/1845. d. 1861 in Titus County, Texas. Twelve children.
Descendants:
James I. Riddle III
4247 Goodfellow Dr.
Dallas, TX 75229
Chauncey C. Riddle
1146 Birch Lane
Provo, Utah 84604
G-Nell Winslow
1101 Jungle Road
Edisto Beach, SC 29438
Robert L. Riddle
4200 N. Haltom Rd.
Fort Worth, Texas 76117-1202
6) Thomas Riddle – moved to Bledsoe Co., TN, m. Mary Igou and Delilah Burks, d. 1859, Bradley Co., TN. Had at least 10 children.
Descendants:
Sherry Hildreth
1309 Chipwood Drive
Knoxville, TN 37932
7) Happy Riddle Jr. – married Henry Fisher 1799, Russell Co., VA. Had eleven children.
Descendants:
Jack Goins
270 Holston View Dr.
Rogersville, TN 37857
Glen England
Brooklyn, NY
Bruce England
1458 Thunderbird Avenue
Sunnyvale, California 94087
Eula McNutt – des. from Catherine Fisher, dau. of Happy Jr.
P.O. Box 1092
Gate City, VA 24251
Wanda Aldridge – des. from James Hurd & Nancy Fisher, dau. of Happy Jr.
P.O. Box 184
Dyer, Arkansas 72935
8) William Riddle – in 1830 Wm. Riddle was living in Whitley Co., TN, married to Ellen Choat, with several children. In 1850 he was living in Bradley Co., TN where he died.
Descendants:
Tonya Holmes Shook
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