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Hi, Everybody. I’ve been wandering around & reading threads for awhile. Decided to join and say hello to my possible cousins.
My great-great-great grandparents were William Bouldin (Bowling) and Joanna Collins of Patrick Co., Virginia. Joanna’s father was Edward (aka Ned) & mother was Hannah (from NC). They lived in the Peters Creek area, between Absolam Collins (Joanna’s much older brother?) and Elisha Collins. I think that Elisha and Ned were brothers, but have no proof. Hannah died in PCVA in 1875.
In the 1850 census, Edward (Ned) and Hannah have William Hahone and John Bridgeman living with them. They are a few spaces from Norman and Mary Going, mulatto farmers. So far, my folks have always been listed as white on the censuses that list race, but nearly everyone in my family appears to live a couple doors down from black or mulatto labeled neighbors. Not sure if that is significant or not.
According to my aunts, both my grandmother from this line (Mattie Bouldin) and my grandfather (Her husband, Howard Foley) were “part-Indian”. I thought they were both Cherokee, but am not sure anymore. There is a practically unknown tribe in that same area (Ani Stohini Unami) that have ties to the Cherokee. My suspicion has been that we may be related to them, but then the trail led me here. Who knows?
I’m from Henry Co., Virginia & live in NC.
Here are some of the other names whose roots intertwine:
Branch, Foley, Anderson, Ross, Cannaday, Goard, Harbour, Cronk, Turner, Daniel, Thomas, Nowlin, Joyce…
Pleasure to meet y’all.
Bee Branch
Welcome Bee, I share many of your surnames Anderson, Daniel, Thomas…If you are looking for genealogical searches, Bill is great. Just post your info on the genealogy forum and I am sure he can help you out. Again, welcome.:)
Shirley
I’m a little familiar with the name Unami, as a key part of the Delawares (before they moved, or were moved, west and northwest). Haven’t seen that “Ani Stohini” part, and the Unami word may be a phonetic coincidence anyhow. Here is a link, for what it’s worth:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/delaware/unamihist.htm
Also, there’s a guy in Patrick County who has posted some pretty sound info on the Indian people who once lived around there — though it’s my understanding he got it from someone else (his personal specialty is Civil War history). I posted a link to his web site, not long ago, in this message:
http://www.saponitown.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24330&postcount=72
beeleaf wrote: Hi, Everybody. I’ve been wandering around & reading threads for awhile. Decided to join and say hello to my possible cousins.
My great-great-great grandparents were William Bouldin (Bowling) and Joanna Collins of Patrick Co., Virginia. Joanna’s father was Edward (aka Ned) & mother was Hannah (from NC). They lived in the Peters Creek area, between Absolam Collins (Joanna’s much older brother?) and Elisha Collins. I think that Elisha and Ned were brothers, but have no proof. Hannah died in PCVA in 1875.
In the 1850 census, Edward (Ned) and Hannah have William Hahone and John Bridgeman living with them. They are a few spaces from Norman and Mary Going, mulatto farmers. So far, my folks have always been listed as white on the censuses that list race, but nearly everyone in my family appears to live a couple doors down from black or mulatto labeled neighbors. Not sure if that is significant or not.
According to my aunts, both my grandmother from this line (Mattie Bouldin) and my grandfather (Her husband, Howard Foley) were “part-Indian”. I thought they were both Cherokee, but am not sure anymore. There is a practically unknown tribe in that same area (Ani Stohini Unami) that have ties to the Cherokee. My suspicion has been that we may be related to them, but then the trail led me here. Who knows?
I’m from Henry Co., Virginia & live in NC.
Here are some of the other names whose roots intertwine:
Branch, Foley, Anderson, Ross, Cannaday, Goard, Harbour, Cronk, Turner, Daniel, Thomas, Nowlin, Joyce…
Pleasure to meet y’all.
Bee Branch
Hello Bee…welcome to the forum. Not certain if you have the paternal info or not but here is what I have on your Edward/Ned’s lineage upward:
Father: Meredith Collins (b: 1760 VA, d: 1841 Pike Co, KY) MD: Polly nee Halloway (b: 1765 ?, d: abt 1812 Floyd Co, KY) their children:
Reuben, Edward “Ned”, Archibald, John W., James, William & an UNK female…from a “spouseless relationship”, Meredith also had a son named Bradley born abt 1786 in Wilkes Co, NC.
Grandfather: purported to be John Collins (b: 1734 oc. UNK, DOD UNK, spouse UNK) who had children:
Meredith, Lewis, John Jr., James & Griffin.
Great-grandfather: Believed to be: Thomas Collins Sr. (b: 1710 VA, d: abt 1770 Orange Co, NC) MD: Mary Ann UNK (dates UNK)…their children:
Mary, Thomas Jr., Joseph, Samuel, John, George & Elisha.
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I think that if you search this forum you will undoubtedly find lots more info…some posted by myself and alot more by others…pay particular attention to postings by Brenda Collins-Dillon…as her GG grandfather’s line descends from Meredith Collins’ son as well. Unfortunately, Brenda is not online here because of health issues…but she posted oodles that will no doubt prove very helpful. Best of luck to you in your continued search. Feel free to contact me or message me if you have any specific questions abt these folks…and I’ll gladly help if I can. Blessings~~~Laurie
Thanks for the warm welcome!
I appreciate that & any linkage or help with family trees.
I seem to have collected a mountain of info, but trying to figure out which of it applies to my group has been quite a challenge. Think I found at least 4 John Collins families in different VA/NC counties at the same time. I can tell from reading threads here that I’m not alone. ;~)
Laurie, that’s cool info. I remember seeing some info about a Ned who married Anna Justice, but he didn’t appear to be the right Ned. Is the one in the line you posted a different guy? I found an Edward Collins in the 1810 Stokes County NC census & thought that might be the one, but am not sure.
Shirley, I reckon we could be cousins!
PappyDick, thanks.
Here are a couple of the very few links with info about the Ani Stohini Unami. The second one lists which counties. It may be of interest, since most of those counties overlap the New River area.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ani-Stohini/Unami
http://www.indigenouspeople.net/easterntribes.htm#ASU
Welcome Bee, I don’t know if you’ve come across them yet, but there are at least a few posts mentioning that both the Collins and Boling names are documented to some tribal Saponi, a rare situation. There are only about a half a dozen such surnames that exist. So, to have two of them from those counties in Virginia with stories of Indian in the family just might be a big deal.
beeleaf;24876 wrote: Hi, Everybody. I’ve been wandering around & reading threads for awhile. Decided to join and say hello to my possible cousins.
My great-great-great grandparents were William Bouldin (Bowling) and Joanna Collins of Patrick Co., Virginia. Joanna’s father was Edward (aka Ned) & mother was Hannah (from NC). They lived in the Peters Creek area, between Absolam Collins (Joanna’s much older brother?) and Elisha Collins. I think that Elisha and Ned were brothers, but have no proof. Hannah died in PCVA in 1875.
In the 1850 census, Edward (Ned) and Hannah have William Hahone and John Bridgeman living with them. They are a few spaces from Norman and Mary Going, mulatto farmers. So far, my folks have always been listed as white on the censuses that list race, but nearly everyone in my family appears to live a couple doors down from black or mulatto labeled neighbors. Not sure if that is significant or not.
According to my aunts, both my grandmother from this line (Mattie Bouldin) and my grandfather (Her husband, Howard Foley) were “part-Indian”. I thought they were both Cherokee, but am not sure anymore. There is a practically unknown tribe in that same area (Ani Stohini Unami) that have ties to the Cherokee. My suspicion has been that we may be related to them, but then the trail led me here. Who knows?
I’m from Henry Co., Virginia & live in NC.
Here are some of the other names whose roots intertwine:
Branch, Foley, Anderson, Ross, Cannaday, Goard, Harbour, Cronk, Turner, Daniel, Thomas, Nowlin, Joyce…
Pleasure to meet y’all.
Bee Branch
My great grandmother , a woman by the name of Rachel Davis was born circa 1865 and was said to have been santee indian from clarendon county south Carolina…..she was one of several children to archie and mary davis….Rachel had a brother named bruce whos death certificate I just found……at the bottom of the certificate …his mother Mary Davis is listed as mary Nowlin ….. Rachel on the other hand married young at age 15 to man named adam singleton aged 30 when they got married …….had nineteen children 8 of which died due to illness…eleven survived ..of the eleven came Luella singleton my great grandmother ……….are you somehow connected to my Mary Nowlin ?
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best wishes Craig
santee71;38217 wrote: My great grandmother , a woman by the name of Rachel Davis was born circa 1865 and was said to have been santee indian from clarendon county south Carolina…..she was one of several children to archie and mary davis….Rachel had a brother named bruce whos death certificate I just found……at the bottom of the certificate …his mother Mary Davis is listed as mary Nowlin ….. Rachel on the other hand married young at age 15 to man named adam singleton aged 30 when they got married …….had nineteen children 8 of which died due to illness…eleven survived ..of the eleven came Luella singleton my great grandmother ……….are you somehow connected to my Mary Nowlin ?
Jogdelog Craig, welcome to SaponiTown!
This thread might interest you: Santee and Sissipahaw
I’m just learning about the Santee of SC so was intrigued by your post. Until lately I was only aware of the Santee as the closest neighbors to the Eastern Siouan group. (The Santee being the most easterly of the Western Siouan groups).
MarcSnelling;38220 wrote: Jogdelog Craig, welcome to SaponiTown!
This thread might interest you: Santee and Sissipahaw
I’m just learning about the Santee of SC so was intrigued by your post. Until lately I was only aware of the Santee as the closest neighbors to the Eastern Siouan group. (The Santee being the most easterly of the Western Siouan groups).
Thank you for responding and I’ll be sure to check it out.
MarcSnelling;38220 wrote: Jogdelog Craig, welcome to SaponiTown!
This thread might interest you: Santee and Sissipahaw
I’m just learning about the Santee of SC so was intrigued by your post. Until lately I was only aware of the Santee as the closest neighbors to the Eastern Siouan group. (The Santee being the most easterly of the Western Siouan groups).
I dont know what your spiritual beliefs and practices may be but I went to the link for the thread you sent me and was blown away when I read and saw the name DuChien pop up. Its the very last posting on that page.
Just last night I was shown in a dream the name DuChien and here it is I’m a new member as of today and I’m already reading up on it. I think there’s a connwction between someone in my family and the great Sioux uprising of 1862 where forty Sioux warriors were hung and executed in mankato. I think santee people may have traveled west to the carolinas during that period or santee from south carolina went to south Dakota . I know there’s a connection there somewhere I just dont have proof of it. I’m gonna have to read that thread again and start digging some more .
There is a practically unknown tribe in that same area (Ani Stohini Unami) that have ties to the Cherokee. My suspicion has been that we may be related to them, but then the trail led me here.
Hi Beeleaf, I have recently discovered these connections as well. Specifically my Indiana Jones Smith line with the Burcham Ani-Stohini/Unami line in Carroll County VA. Specifically descendants of John E Burcham 1818-1892 married to Mahala Smith 1812-1894. These are some pictures of their descendants from Ancestry.com:
Isaac & Matilda (Burhcam) Burcham – also her maiden name.
Burcham-Joseph Henley & Susie Eveline and extended family
Above photos posted by ejkiler
Children:
Rose Lucettie Burcham – Photo posted by drharrisonlbc
Alexander Rufus Burcham – shared by cconley41
Roy Lee (Leroy/Lee Roy) Burcham – shared by ejkiler (Ancestry.com tree says Lee Roy. AN Ani-Stohini/Unami member says it’s Roy Lee)
Joseph Henley Burcham & Susie Eveline with 5 of their children – shared by ejkiler
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