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William Bolden Family Can anyone share information on my Great granddad William Bolden, Born? was married twice. 1st marriage ? but had a daughter Susan Bolden, Born: 1860-61 Va? 2nd marriage to a Elizabeth Rich. Susan Married Jacob M Smith Born: 1858-60 their Children are and may not be in order. Grace Born ? Married a Jack Vipperman, no dates. William Milton Born: 1879 in Tazewell Co. Va John H., no dates, James, no dates, Jenny, married a Will Seabolt, no dates Arch, married a Jannie Armstrong, no dates. Grover C. Born: 1893 Va married a Bessie Kitts, Born 1896 had Children, Billy, others not known nor dates. Lilly, married a Harmon. no dates. Taylor, Born:1878 married Sinie? no dates. Aought, no dates or info. My line comes from William M Smith and Ida Kegley. they had eight children, I am from William son Frank. Frank was Born: 1911-12 in Nebo Va he married a May Ferguson or Blankenship of Wva. she was Born: 1926-28 in Wva. Jacobs Smith Dad was W.H. Smith, Born? married a Mary Catron, no proof. her dad was John Catron, her mother was belived to be M Hilderbrand. no dates Etc. I was told through child hood and my teen years that i was indian. can anyone help m with the indian part of the family? My other surnames are Helt, Musser, Kegley, Crowe, Toler, Maynor, Paynter, Shields, Krieger/Cregger,
Welcome to the Forum, Lilly,
I’ll take a shot at it but with this surname it will take a couple of days. It’s a difficult one because of the spelling variations.
Among some of the other surnames you mentioned –
Rich, Armstrong, Harmon, Kegley, Blankenship, Crow, Painter/Paynter, some will be familiar to several people on this forum. I’d be glad to see what we can find.
Bill.
Found Jacob M. and Susan Smith, 21 and 20 yrs old respectively, with “Wm. Milton”, one month old (census dated 5 June), on the 1880 Tazewell Co., Va, Jeffersonville Twp Census, p.259B. All of their parents are listed as born in Virginia.
Within 10 houses either way of them, are 3 Bowlings, one Smith and one Blankenship (no Fergusons).
Bowling: Powhattan, Charles & David (some of the “red” Bollings)
Smith: Jas. Q.
Blankenship: Rachel (widow). (they’re part of the line who immigrated from northern England abt.1680s to Henrico Co., Va.
In 1720s some moved into Chesterfield/Lunenburg/Brunswick Co and I’m related to the part of that line who moved to NC in the 1760s and into Indiana in the 1790s.
Haven’t found your William Bolden/Bowling/Bolling yet. Bill.
Lilly, this may break thru some of the bricks……….
Tazewell Co., Va marriage record:
William Bowling, 66 yrs, married Lavina Elizabeth RICH, 22 yrs; 3 Jun 1858.
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Per the research posted by Diane Wolford……..
William Boling/Bowling m’d 1) on 28 May 1807 Tazewell Co., Lavina ASBURY, b.abt. 1785 Tazewell Co., dau of George Asbury & Mary Ann TAYLOR.
William m’d 2) on 3 June 1858 Tazewell Co., Lavina Elizabeth RICH.
William, b. 9 Feb 1789 Russell Co., Va; d. bef. 1870 census taken.
Per Diane Wolford and others, William was the son of Jarrett Bowling, b. 18 Jan 1762 Stafford Co., Va and Eleanor GARRISON, b. abt. 1765; d. bef. 1835 Tazewell Co., Va. Jarrett m’d 2) on 27 Jun 1839 Tazewell Co., Isabella Poage. Jarrett d. 2 Jan 1856 (95 yrs old) and is buried on Knob Mountain, Tazewell Co., Va. Jarrett’s Will is posted on the Tazewell Co usgenweb site and lists only children from the second marriage.
(It’s sometimes reckless to accept the research of others but some of the above info on William, Lavina & Elizabeth as stated by Diane Wolford, does correspond to 1850 and 1860 census records abstracted below, so I’ve included her info. You need to confirm the above info which was found in message # 389 on the BOWLING family forum on genforum.com, but it is a start.)
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1850 Tazewell Co., Va., Census; Western District, 4th July, p. 5, at 32, 32:
Wm. Boling, 61, male, – , farmer, $200, b.Va.
Lavina H. ” , 58, female, – , b.Va.
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1860 Tazewell Co., Va., Census; Western District; Maiden Spring & Thompson Valley P.O., 19 July, p.809, at 836, 821:
William Boling, 69, m, – , farmer, $50, b.Va.
Elizabeth ” , 24, f, b.Va.
William G. Rich, 6, m, – , b.Va.
Hickman F. ” , 3, m, – , b.Va.
SUSAN F. BOWLING, 2/12, f, b.Va.****
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I think this would indicate that RICH was NOT Elizabeth’s maiden name unless William G. and Hickman F. are her younger siblings.
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Elizabeth, Susan and the RICH boys were not found in Tazewell Co on 1870 census. I speculate that Elizabeth remarried and all the kids are buried in the 1870 census under the new surname.
Susan and Jacob Smith with son Wm. Milton are on the 1880 census (as posted previously), so it’s “likely” that Susan was there in 1870.
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So, you might want to check out Jarrett Bowling/Boling to answer your main question. Jarrett “may” be the son of John Bolling and Elizabeth BLAIR and she might be from the Cherokee Blairs and he from the “red” Bollings – those possible leads need to be checked out, tho.
KEGLEY is another line you should look into in S.W. Va.
Bill
Thank you Bill, this is my line and why couldn’t find it? i have been looking everywhere. I wasen’t to sure until i saw william bowling nameing William and Hickman Rich. thank you for this. but i wonder if Mary Catron married Jacob Smith? as i can;t find anything on this either, i will check the information you sent me and make sure that it is right. Thanks again Lilly
Took a “quick” look for W.H. Smith and Mary Catron and for her John Catron m. M. Hildebrand without finding anyone – too many John Catrons 🙂 The absence of the 1890 census leaves a whole generation in virtual limbo.
I’ll take a fresh look tomorrow.
Bill
Lilly,
Here’s some approximate dates to fill in some of the blanks.
1870 Smyth Co., Va., Rich Valley Twp, 4 Jul,
P.O.: Chatham Hill. p.51A,
at 29, 29:
SMITH, William S., 44, m, – , Carpenter, $0, NC.
Mary, 43, f, – , Va.
Elizabeth C., 19, f, Va.
Charles A., 17, m, Va.
William J., 15, m, Va.
James H., 13, m, Va.
JACOB M., 11, m, Va.****your Jacob M. Smith.
Archibald, 9, m, Va.
Isabella, 6, f, Va.
John L., 4, m, Va.
Susan N., 1, f, Va.
Next door, at 30, 30:
CATRON, Ryel, 36, m, – , farmer, $0, Va
Catron, Nancy, 72, f, – , Va.
(as I’ve learned from someone else on this forum 🙂 “Ryel” may be a shortened version of “Riley”.)
Vague circumstancial naming might support your info that William’s wife Mary was a CATRON.
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1850 Smyth Co., Va; 60th District, 5 Aug,
p.178A,
at 291, 295:
William S. SMITH, 24, m, – , Carpenter, $0, NC.
Mary, 22, f, – , Va.
Eliza J., 3, f, Va.
Mary H., 1, f, Va.
next door, at 292, 296:
Mead A. SMITH, 41, m, – , Taylor (sic), $4200, Va.
Eliza, 30, f, – , Va.
Alexander, 18, m, Brickmason, NC.
William, 16, m, student, NC
James, 14, m, NC
Henry, 9, m, NC.
next page, 4 houses later, at 296, 300:
Francis SMITH, 29, m, – , farmer, $300, Va.
Isabella, 28, f, – , Va.
Samuel, 6, m, Va.
next door to him, at 297, 301:
James SCOTT, 71, m, – , farmer, $0, Va.
Mary, 60, f, – , Va.
James, 27, m, laborer, Va.
Samuel, 25, m, Va.
Jonah, 16, m, Va.
Elizabeth, 1, f, Va.
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I included the Scott household due the “Samuel” in Francis Smith’s house and William Smith’s middle initial “S”. I don’t “know” if the Scotts are related, it’s just a possibility.
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Also in 1850 Smyth Co, 60th District, are 2 Catron families:
p.217B, 16 Sept, at 830, 838:
Jacob CATRON, 52, m, – , farmer, $60, Va.
Elizabeth, 46, f, – , Va.
Margaret, 26, f, Va.
JACOB M., 17, m, laborer, Va.
Joseph W., 14, m, Va.
Peter H., 11, m, Va.
p.239B, 23 Oct, at 1139, 1150:
Hiram C. CATRON, 24, m, – , farmer, $0, Va.
Catharine, 24, f, – , Va.
Elizabeth, 4, f, Va.
JACOB, 2, m, Va.
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In 1850 Wythe Co., Va, 68th District, p.274A, at 702, 702:
John CATRON, 62, m, – , farmer, $3500, Va.
Elizabeth, 53, f, – , Va.
John, 24, m, Va.
Ephraim, 23, m, Va.
AUSTIN, 22, m, Va. (I think there are people here with Austins)
Joseph, 19, m, Va.
David, 17, m, Va.
VALENTINE, 14, m, Va.
Peter, 12, m, Va.
Elizabeth JONES, 21, f, – , Va.
Elizabeth KEGLEY, 12, f, Va.****
Rhoda KEGLEY, 4, f, Va.****
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Seems the Catrons and Kegleys may have been related?
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a Peter CATRON, 30, Va., lived next door to John Catron in 1850 Wythe Co.
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Twenty houses later, at 722, 722:
Alfred G. CATRON, 24, m, – , farmer, $1200, Va.
Evelind, 26, f, – , Va.
Susan, 2, f, Va.
next door at 723:
Alexander PAINTER, 45, m, – , farmer, $5000, Va. (your PAYNTER?)
Emily, 30, f, – , Va.
Samuel, 17, m, Va.
George, 14, m, Va.
William, 13, m, Va.
Mary, 12, f, Va.
Leicester, 8, m, Va.
James, 7, m, Va.
James JOHNSTON, 31, m, – , Teacher, $0, NC.
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Bill
Thank you very much bill, this is great. how come i cant find anything? i hate asking for help, I try to do it myself, so other people can work on there own stuff, so i try not to bother them with mine. but i just had to ask for help as i said before it was like they never exsisted. how would one go about finding out the info on mary to see if she was a catron? i would like to try again myself, if i can. that way i won’t bother you with stupid questions. i feel silly asking. thanks again, Lilly
Naw, there’s no such thing as a stupid question and you’re far from silly.
Hmmm. How to find Mary’s maiden name.
They married about 1846 or so, so the census is no help at all, beyond what we have.
I didn’t find any on-line marriage records for Smyth Co in that time frame. You might try that county’s website if they have one.
Failing all else, look at the marriage records in their courthouse.
Smyth County began keeping marriage records in 1832 so they may have it. You might first want to see if someone at the courthouse would look it up for you – don’t know if they do that or not – or have someone go there for you, rather than go there yourself.
This just ocurred to me…… See if you can find an historical society or genealogical society in that county and find out if they have an index or listing of marriages. That might be the best, first step. If they don’t have a marriage index, they may do lookups for a fee or recommend someone who would do the lookup. Bill
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