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January 25, 2006 at 10:44 pm #19077
My family was Elizabeth Brown and Isaac Morris, they married around 1800 in Hillsborough, I think that’s Alamance county? They had some kids and then went to TN. Their granddaughter, Una, told my grandma that they originally came from SW NC.
Una’s mom was a Morris, her father’s side were Ritchie/Richeys from western Va. Pictures of Una and family show a lot of them with Indian looking features. I read here on the forum that some Ritchies may have had Saponi blood?
Anyways, several elderly relatives from this family took DNA tests that said they had enough Indian ancestry to mean something, so I figure any of these families could have had Indian blood.
January 25, 2006 at 10:44 pm #19113Nativelady, you mention your grandmother is 86 years old and knows quite a bit about Halifax County, Va. Would you mind sharing her name and contact information? We go up to Northern Granville County-Grassy Creek Community about every 2 months. Would love to talk with her as My Uncle Ed Fitts children remember staying in homes of NA who were family when going back to the Red Bank/ High Plains area. If you do not wish to publish her information you can email me at eyancey@ec.rr.com. I would really like to talk with someone of her generation and in that area. My homeplace is about 8 miles from Virgilina, in fact our mailing address was Route 1 Nelson Virginia for years until they changed to NC Address. Thanks Ed
January 25, 2006 at 10:44 pm #19684Linda,
The primary names on the Haliwa rolls are , Richardson, Lynch, Harris, Silver, Copeland and Evans. There may be some Carter’s because they are married to someone who’s maiden name is one of the primary ones listed.
Jade
January 25, 2006 at 10:44 pm #35370researching the Indian lineage of our family line. We do not have
much information.
1930 Halifax Co., Va Census – ED24 Roanoke Mag. Dist; 4 April, p.59A,
at 10, 14:
Williams, Paul; Laborer-County Road; m, Neg, 49, m30, Va, Va, Va.
(ditto), Henrietta; wife; f, Neg, 32, m27, Va, Va, Va.
(ditto), Claude H.; son, m, Neg, 21, Va.
(ditto), Maggie; dau, f, Neg, 15, Va.
(ditto), Woodrow; son, m, Neg, 12, Va.
(ditto), Grant S.; son, m, Neg, 3 + 9 months, Va.
(ditto), Swanee (?) L.; dau, f, Neg, 2 + 3 months, Va.
Next door at 11, 15:
Reid, Bell; Servant, Private Home; f, Neg, 38, W’d, m19; Va,Va,Va.
Williams, Julia A.; Mother; f, Neg, 80, W’d, m15; Va, Va, Va.
Both Bell and Julia are widowed (W’d); Bell was marr’d at 19 yrs old
and Julia marr’d at 15 yrs old.
The “m30” for Paul and “m27” for Henrietta, are their ages when each
first married.
(Their fathers and mothers were also born in Virginia.)
In 1930, Paul and Henrietta have been married about 5 years,
Henrietta being married at 27 yrs old. Grant and Swanee would then be
the children of Paul and Henrietta – the older children’s mother is
Joanna, per the 1920 census.
1920 Halifax Co., Va Census; ED98 Roanoke; 24 March; p.149A., at 68, —
Williams, P. J.; Farmer; m, B, 39, Va, Va, Va.
(ditto), Joanna; wife, f, B, 40, Va, Va, Va.
(ditto), Jessie; dau, f, B, 19, Va.
(ditto), Mary; dau, f, B, 16, Va.
(ditto), J. A. (?); son, m, B, 14, Va.
(ditto), Claude; son, m, B, 11, Va.
(ditto), Andrew; son, m, B, 8, Va.
(ditto), Maggie; dau, f, B, 5, Va.
(ditto), Woodrow; son, m, B, 2, Va.
1910 Halifax Co., Va Census; ED70 Roanoke Mag.Dist; 16 April, p.87B,
at 28, 29:
Williams, Paul J.; Railroad Lab’r; m, B, 30, m1, 9, Va, Va, Va.
(ditto), Joanah; wife, f, B, 30, m1, 9, 5/5, Va, Va, Va.
(ditto), Jesie D. (?); dau, f, B, 8, Va.
(ditto), Ellen M.; dau, f, B, 6, Va.
(ditto), James A.; son, m, B, 4, Va.
(ditto), Claud H.; son, m, B, 1, Va.
(ditto), Clive S.; son, m, B, 1, Va.
Looks like Claude and Clive were twins.
(Paul & Joanah have each been marr’d once and have been marr’d for 9
years. Joanah has had 5 children and 5 are still living.)
three doors further, at 31, 32:
Blackstock, Ellen; — , f, B, 78, W’d, 6/0, Va, Va, Va.
(ditto), William H.; G-son, m, B, 21, Va, farmer.
(ditto), Millie J.; G-dau, f, B, 13, Va.
Williams, Paul H.; farmer, m, B, 62, m1, 43, Va, Va, Va.
(ditto), Julia A.; wife, f,MU, 61, m1, 43, 8/6, Va, Va, Va, laundress.
(ditto), Allen L.; son, m, MU, 30, Va. farmer.
(ditto), Walter (?) E.; son, m, MU, 18, Va, farm laborer.
Coleman, Ryal; G-son, m, MU, 21, Va, –hand, Railroad.
(ditto), Helen N.; G-dau, f, MU, 18, Va, laundress.
Williams, Byrd; G-son, m, B, 16, Va, farm laborer.
Julia was a HARRIS! There are Harris’s in that general area of
southern Virginia who are Indian.
Between the 1880s and 1920s especially, anyone not obviously ‘white’
usually was listed as ‘black’ or ‘negro’ on census records,
particularly in the south – census takers weren’t anthropologists –
so this is such a very subjective thing that you can’t count on it
being accurate.
The family states that Paul H Williams was originally a slave
belonging to the Carringtons in Charlotte, VA and carried that name
until he moved to Clover and worked for a man named Allen Williams,
thus the Williams name.
His wife Julia Anne Harris was also a slave of the same Carrington as
Paul. She claimed to be Carrington’s daughter, refusing to be
acknowledged as a Williams prior to marriage. No one remembers the
first name of the Carrington that owned the plantation. Through my
research I have learned there were many Carringtons in Virginia and
am having a hard time figuring out which one it could be.
I see the census recorded Paul H as Black. The family believes that
Paul had Irish/Indian blood as well. It was always the explanation
for the fair skin, occasional straight hair, green eyes and red hair
in the family.
It is said that Julia was part Indian as well. Maybe from the
Carrington side? But Blackfoot continues to be mentioned and it is
said to come from Julia’s side of the family.
Below are additional names of Paul and Julia’s children.
Susan – b.1868
Belle – b.1870
Ailis – b.1873
Anne -b.1875
Paul James b. -1881
Allen – b.1884
Florence – b.1887
Walter – b.1891
Census record identification of race is very subjective and therefore
“uncertain” at best.
In 1870 Halifax Co., Roanoke Twp, p.659A, Paul H., 21, and Julia
Williams, 22, with daughter Susan, 2, lived next door to Rebecca
Williams, 19, and the next house was Archer Williams, 31, and wife
Cornelia, 25.
Three houses after Archer lived Benjamin Carrington, 65 and wife
Lucinda, 55. The census taker’s name was J.M. Carrington
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