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Tom,
Well, I might be connected with Frank James, as in Jesse James’ brother. Frank married a Ralston (My Blackfoot ID comes from Nancy Agnes Mclane Ralston). The James family has recently denied it after finding a letter stating that her Ralstons were from Ireland, but I am not so sure. How many of us here know that Ireland was one of the countries of choice when hiding native ancestry? His wife had to hide her husband too. One of their hideouts was in Iowa, very near where my Ralstons (and your Hardins) lived, maybe only 20 miles away. I have a picture of it. My great aunt’s memoir says that one of the Ralstons spoke with Frank when he was on the circuit and that Frank identified them as second cousins. Kind of fun to research, isn’t it?
I think, too, that they had a way of letting each other know where others found a safe place to live. My native names are different from most of the names on this forum, but as you stretch the family tree out, you begin to find names that others have posted here. And my people were supposedly Cherokee. Both my great aunt and the cousin who grew up on the Colville reservation say this.
Just south of where our mutual ancestors lived in Iowa is one of Iowa’s Half-Breed tracts. I have always wondered if this did not help to bring them to Iowa.
Cindy
Hello Cindy, well I have heard of these ‘half Breed” tracts but never have looked into them, given the open mindedness for that type of venue it is possible for that to be a drawing card.
I wonder how many renegades of the old west were really mixed blood people? I’d bet several and it would make for an interesting study. You mention the names and how they have changed, like the name of Berman, really quite unique.
I really think that we need some sort of mapping system that shows us where our families have moved to, I once had heard that Louisiana was a “jumping off point” of becoming white for many mixed families, many that stayed in that state are now the “red bone ” communities, I’d bet we have folks there too.
All for now ,, best.. Tom
Tom,
I’ve heard that John Wesley Hardin was a mixed Indian – think that was on the History Channel series on Outlaws of the Old West – but wouldn’t swear to it.
Bill
Bushtick,
Here’s what was found in Census Records.
1850 Lee Co., Va Census, p.335B, 16 August, at 460, 477 :
Abraham SCHOOLCRAFT, 30, male, Brick Mason, $0, Va.
Mary, 24, f, Va.
Francis, 7, m, Va.
Sarah, 5, f, Va.
Benjamin, 3, m, Va.
Lorenzo F., 6 months, m, Va.
Louisa HOOVER, 16, f, Va.
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Abraham is the son of Michael & Patsey (nickname for Martha), and Michael was living with Abraham in 1860.
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1850 Owsley Co., Ky, Census, Ky Dist., p.296A, 1 September, at 262, 262:
Michael SCHOOLCRAFT, 59, m, Brick Mason, $200, Ky.****
Patsey, 54, f, Va. ****
Overton, 32, m, Brick Mason, Va.
Polly, 27, f, Va (nickname for Mary, Overton’s wife per 1860 Census)
Madison, 17, m, Laborer, Va.****
James, 15, m, Va.****
Nathan, 11, m, Va.****
Elizabeth HOBBS, 8, f, Va.
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(Michael Schoolcraft’s next door neighbor in 1840 Lee Co., Va was Nathan Hobbs. Nathan Hobbs m’d 1st, Mary SMITH, and Elizabeth is their daughter. Their son Abraham Hobbs m’d Elizabeth CARTER in 1840 Lee Co., Va.)
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1860 Owsley Co., Ky Census, Travelor’s Rest P.O, p.318
at 142, 142:
Overton SCHOOLCRAFT, 43, m, farmer, $500, $200, Va.
Mary, 35, f, Va.
Abraham, 14, m, Va.
Milissa, 11, f, Ky.
Millard F., 4, m, Ky.
Henry C., 2, m, Ky.
next door, at 143, 143:
Abraham SCHOOLCRAFT, 41, m, farmer, $500, $200, Va.
Sarah E.,31, f, Va.
Frances M., 17, m, farmer, Va.
Sarah L., 15, f, domestic, Va.
Florence M., 5, f, Tenn.
Martha L., 3, f, Ky.
Michael SCHOOLCRAFT, 68, m, Brick Mason, $0, $0, Penn.
next door, at 144, 144:
Jas. C. SCHOOLCRAFT, 25, m, Stone Mason, $600, $75, Va.
M. H., 28, m, Stone & Brick Mason, Va. (Madison Hughs)
N. H., 22, m, Stone Mason, Va. (Nathan)
M. A., 60, f, Seamstress, Va. (Martha “Patsey”)
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1840 Lee Co., Va., Census, p. 126 :
Michael Schoolcraft = 12102001 – 0011001.
household contains:
1 male under 5.
2 males 5 to 9.
1 male 10 to 14.
2 males 20 to 29.
1 male 50 to 59.
1 female 10 to 14.
1 female 15 to 19.
1 female 40 to 49.
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1830 Lee Co., Va., Census, p.323:
Michael Schoolcraft = 1110001 – 110001.
household contains:
1 male under 5.
1 male 5 to 9.
1 male 10 to 14.
1 male 40 to 49.
1 female under 5.
1 female 5 to 9.
1 female 30 to 39.
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1820 Washington Co., Va., Census, p.247:
Michael Schoolcraft = 200010 – 10100 – 0 – 0.
household contains:
2 males under 10.
1 male 26 to 44.
1 female under 10.
1 female 16 to 25.
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1810 Washington Co., Va., Census, p.433:
Michael Schoolcraft = 00100 – 00100 – 0 – 0.
household contains:
1 male 16 to 25.
1 female 16 to 25.
next door is:
Soloman FIN = 00100 – 10011 – 0 – 0.
household contains:
1 male 16 to 25.
1 female under 10.
1 female 26 to 44.
1 female of 45 and over.
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I found the 1898 interview with Madison Hughs Schoolcraft where he says his mother is Martha Fener but no Fener/Fenner/etc were found in any Index for Virginia. Just the one “FIN” and there were some FINN’s. No Gabriel’s were found.
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I did find a John Schoolcraft in 1782 Monongalia Co., Va (now WVa), who was a private in the Virginia Militia during the Rev. War and was placed on the Rev. War Pension Rolls on Sept 6, 1833, age at that time was 76, and he was living in Lewis Co., Va (now WVa.). Part of northern Monongalia County did end up as a part of Pennsylvania, so if this is the John who is the father of Michael, I would think Michael was born there, not in Ky.
Also in 1782 Monongalia Co., was a Christian Schoolcraft.
A 20 yr old James Schoolcraft ( 5 ft 8 inches tall) served as a Scout in the Randolph Co., Va., Militia from March 1, 1790, until April 30, 1790, employed in Randolph Co.
The earliest Schoolcraft found in Kentucky was a James Schoolcraft, who is listed on the 1800 Garrard Co., Ky Tax List, dated Aug 6, 1800, so if James was there in order for Michael to be born in 1791 Henry Co., Ky, he didn’t stay.
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As I posted earlier, most of Michael’s children moved to Jefferson Co., Ind in the 1860s, Abraham died there in 1863, per his son Frances Marion Schoolcraft. I can send you that info if you want it.
The Dixon/Dickson line, posted at the end of this post, is very interesting indeed.
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Clay County, Ky Marriage Records:
Madison Schoolcraft married Catherine HAYS, Jan 4, 1875.
License: Jan. 2, 1875.
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Per one Schoolcraft researcher, Michael Schoolcraft married Martha Ann FENN/ FINN, b. abt. 1796 Va., and Madison was born on Sept 11, 1831 in Turkey Cove, Lee Co., Va., and d. Jan 16, 1920. That researcher is M. Bryant, email is mrs99@excite.com but it may not be current.
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1880 Clay Co., Ky., Census, Magisterial District 1, 8 June, p. 534D, at 103, 96:
SCHOOLCRAFT, M. H.; w, m, 46, farming, Va., Va, Va.****
Catharin; w, f, 21, wife, Ky, Ky, Ky.**** (nee Hays/Hayes)
Aliss V. (N. ?); w, f, 3, dau, Ky, Va, Ky.
Edward M.; w, m, 1, son, Ky, Va, Ky.
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Catharine Hays’s parents & siblings:
1880 Clay Co., Ky., Census, ED25 Manchester, Mag. Dist !, 12 June, p.539B:
HAYES, James; w, m, 57, farmer, Ky, Va, Ky.
Mary ; w, f, 43, wife, Ky, Va, Ky. (nee: Dixon/Dickson)
John ; w, m, 19, son, Ky.
William T. ; w, m, 18, son, Ky.
Susan ; w, f, 16, dau, Ky.
Hariett ; w, f, 14, dau, Ky.
Nancy ; w, f, 12, dau, Ky.
Elizabeth ; w, f, 10, dau, Ky.
Gilbert ; w, m, 7, son, Ky.
Isabella ; w, f, 3, dau, Ky.
Sophia ; w, f, 5 months, dau, (born) “Jan”, Ky.
DIXON, Creed; w, f, Nephew, Ky, Ky, Ky.
Next door is Adam GOINGS, w, m, 82, Tenn.
& Elexander GOINGS, w, m, 30, KY, Tn, Ky.
On the page before this, are
Jaeson COLLINS, Mu, m, 50, Ky, Ky, Ky.
and
William COLLINS, Mu, m, 55, Tn, Tn, Tn.
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1870 Clay Co., Ky, Census, Dist. 32, 4th Pct., 9 Aug, p.195A, at 5, 5 :
HAYS, James, 46, m, works on Farm, $0, Ky.
Mary; 30, f, Ky.
Catherine, 11, f, Ky ****
John ; 9, m, Ky.
William T.; 7, m, Ky.
Susannah ; 5, f, Ky.
Harriett ; 3, f, Ky.
Nancy ; 2, f, Ky.
Elizabeth ; 1, f, Ky.
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1860 Clay Co., Ky Census, p.86, 21 June, Manchester P.O., at 538, 538 :
James HAYS, 36, m, – , farmer, $0, $30, (born) Clay Co.
Mary, 21, f, Clay Co.
Catherine, 1, f, Clay Co.****
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Clay Co., Ky Marriage Records:
James Hays married Mary Dixon on 8 April, 1858.
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Mary Dixon/Dickson’s parents & siblings:
1870 Jackson Co., Ky, Census, McKee Pct # 1, 13 June, McKee, Ky P.O., p.208A, at 6, 6 :
DICKSON, John C., 63, m, w, farmer, $200, $100, Va.
Eurotus ; 60, f, w, Ky. (nee: STRINGER)
Nancy; 26, f, Ky.
Sarah; 23, Ky.
Martha; 22, Ky.
Winfield S.; 21, m, farm laborer, Ky.
Zachariah T.; 21, farm laborer, Ky.
Matilda; 17, f, Ky.
Susan; 15, f, Ky.
Taylor; 4, Ky. (Charles ? Taylor Dickson – see below)
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The 1850 Clay Co., Ky Census, Ky Dist., p.143B, adds 3 older children for John and “Urotus” Dickson:
William, b. abt. 1836, Ky.
James, b.abt. 1837, Ky.
Mary, b.abt. 1837 also, Ky, who married James Hays in 1858.
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Pulaski Co., Ky Marriage Records:
John C. Dixon married Eurodus Stringer on 21 Sept 1833.
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Per a Stringer researcher, David C. Plunkett, email: dcplunkett@yahoo.com, Eurodus “Roda” Stringer is the dau of William Stringer, b. between 1770 and 1775 in NC.
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John C. and Eurotus Dixon are on the 1860 Clay Co., Ky census showing Eurotus, b. Clay Co.
son James, b. Pulaski Co.
and the rest of the children b. Clay Co.
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Eurodus is shown on various censuses as born anywhere from 1804 to 1813, with 1813 being the most consistent with ages given.
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How’s this for no ambiguity? These people are shown as “I” for Indian and lists blood quantum on the census:
There is a “Charles Dickson; I, 1/4, male, 14, grandson, Ky” shown in the 1880 Jackson Co., Ky census residence of :
DREW, Ephram; I, m, 49, farmer, NC, NC, NC
Margaret; W, f, 48, wife, Ind, Ky, Ky.
all 6 children’s race shown as “I” and “1/2”, with Charles Dickson shown as “I” and “1/4” as well as a Calvin JOHNES, “I”, “1/4”, m, 5, grandson, Ky.
The only 4 yr old Dickson/Dixon I could find on the 1870 Jackson Co census, is Taylor Dickson, the son of John C. and Erodus Dickson, who were the only Dixon/Dickson family there then.
Ephram Drew hasn’t been found yet in 1870, but his 1880 neighbors who were also identified as Indian, were shown as White or Mulatto in 1870.
Those people’s surnames were:
Thomas; Lunsford; Lakes; Gibbs; Drew; Ramsey.
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