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Tom,
Yes, John Tutela was Tutelo. Here is the Quote from post #1 of this thread:
“An Odyssey among the Iroquois: A History of Tutelo Relations in New York
JAY HANSFORD C. VEST
The American Indian Quarterly 29 no1/2 124-55 Wint/Spr 2005
University of Nebraska Press
Foot Note 69. In the mid-nineteenth century, two Tutelo chiefs are referenced among the Six Nations at the Oshweken Council on the Grand River Reserve, Ontario. One was known as John Tutela or Gohe, “panther” in Cayuga. He died March 6, 1888, at one hundred years old. See Hale, “Tutelo Tribe, 9-10; and in the Brantford Weekly Expositor, 1888: 6. Second, there was John Key, Nastabon, “One Step,” who died March 23, 1898, at seventy-eight years old. See Douglas F. Reiville, History of Brant County (Brantford, Ont.: Hurly Printing Company, 1920), 349-50″
I have a copies of these articles. Yesterday I spoke with the Director of the Law Library here, himself an attorney, and he told me I could email them to friends for personal use. It may take me awhile to honor the requests as I’m in the middle of a personal project.
Shirley,
Since we’re “Playing Family” here, I must say…your present avatar looks just like my son. This isn’t the best example but I can’t scan any more pictures because a little tort colored minature lop-eared rabbit used to live with me and ate my scanner cord. Dianne
Wachinika wrote: Tom,
Yes, John Tutela was Tutelo. Here is the Quote from post #1 of this thread:
“An Odyssey among the Iroquois: A History of Tutelo Relations in New York
JAY HANSFORD C. VEST
The American Indian Quarterly 29 no1/2 124-55 Wint/Spr 2005
University of Nebraska Press
Foot Note 69. In the mid-nineteenth century, two Tutelo chiefs are referenced among the Six Nations at the Oshweken Council on the Grand River Reserve, Ontario. One was known as John Tutela or Gohe, “panther” in Cayuga. He died March 6, 1888, at one hundred years old. See Hale, “Tutelo Tribe, 9-10; and in the Brantford Weekly Expositor, 1888: 6. Second, there was John Key, Nastabon, “One Step,” who died March 23, 1898, at seventy-eight years old. See Douglas F. Reiville, History of Brant County (Brantford, Ont.: Hurly Printing Company, 1920), 349-50″
I have a copies of these articles. Yesterday I spoke with the Director of the Law Library here, himself an attorney, and he told me I could email them to friends for personal use. It may take me awhile to honor the requests as I’m in the middle of a personal project.
Shirley,
Since we’re “Playing Family” here, I must say…your present avatar looks just like my son. This isn’t the best example but I can’t scan any more pictures because a little tort colored minature lop-eared rabbit used to live with me and ate my scanner cord. Dianne
Sorry to hear about your scanner…those wascaly wabbits…I just had to do that. Your son has the same hair color as my youngest…everyone always asks where he got it, as the rest of us are all dark brown/black. My present avatar is me as a child.
Just because I was curious, I looked up the cemetery records of Brantford Township, where Joseph Brant is buried. There were Tuttles, Tutes, and Tutts in Greenwood Cemetery. This is not the cemetery where Brant himself is buried. It may mean nothing. None of the names were John. Just thought it interesting.
Techteach
Hey Thanx for the correction, sometimes I follow a thread to the point that I forget the original post , anyway the “turban” I think is actually a cloth “toque”, a French term for a knitted cap., these loose fitting caps are usually made quite heavy but this one looks like it is made from some type of light wieght cloth, something sort of common still in Quebec.
Did anyone notice that this picture is posted backwards, blowit up and look at the numbers near thier heads!
Did anyone notice that this picture is posted backwards
I didn’t, but that might explain the unusual appearance that each of the old dudes is holding a weapon in his LEFT hand. If the negative is reversed, that would normalize things. There are left-handed people, but you wouldn’t expect three out of three.
Also, I think a vine grows around a sapling in a predictable direction, like the way water spirals down a drain. (Different between the northern and southern hemispheres.) I forget which direction is right, for us; but theoretically the “snake” cane is showing the wrong twist for the vine that deformed it. If anybody has a snake cane handy, you might see if its twist is opposite the one in the photo. Or I guess I could go check on the morning glories, wild grapes etc. that attack my azalea bushes every year.
If the image were older (a Daguerreotype, or an ambrotype), we should expect image reversal. But by the 1890s, it should be a plain old photo. In which case, the person who made this print put the negative (or plate) into the enlarger backward.
Darn I didn’t notice that, now it’s going to bother me.:confused: Can a scanner reverse images? If so it could be rescanned and reversed. I guess those numbers read eno, owt, eerht.
Pappy, my snake cane has the twist climbing upward from left to right and I am sure everyone can see on his cane it appears to be right to left. I love to walk the woods and find these. In fact only yesterday I was looking at a very small one that will one day make a handsome piece. ED
Oh marvelous techteach! Thank you. Would it be asking too much or be possible to reverse it when it’s blown up to the larger size?
Please tell us more about twist canes, I never heard of or saw one before.
With the image seeming to be reversed, then those numbers are reading right to left. Is there a possibility that could effect the accuracy of their identity? Lucky for us John Tutela is in the center.
No. I did not realize that it was so small. Graphic Converter does that all the time when saving as jpeg, and I forget to check it. It shows it in a large size, but when you reopen, it is smaller.
Here is a gif image. I had to reduce it to upload though. It took up too many megabytes to upload.
Techteach
Thanks techteach…and all of this free of charge too.:)
I just noticed what a sharp dresser Chief John Tutela was with his light colored pants.
Pappy, I must apologize for my error. The twist begins to the right traveling up the stick to the left. These sticks have been made since time immemorial. They are made when a vine of most anytype (honesuckle, wild grape, etc.) wraps itself around a young sapling tree and as the tree grows it grows between the wraps of the vine enlarging but the vine somewhat restricts the growth where it has adhered itself.
These can be exciting finds as one walks through the forest and especially near damper areas near small streams and around natural ponds. Ed
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