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Does anyone have any knowledge as to why NA’s may have left Virginia in the 1870’s to move to Mission Township (brown county) Kansas?
my grandfather’s family seems to have done this after he was born in Virginia and years later they moved back.
Check this out : http://www.skyways.org/genweb/archives/brown/1876/50.shtml#5001
Do you think it might be because the reservation lands were being sold?
The Kickapoo are Algonquin while the Iowas spoke a Siouan language (I think).
Techteach
In the north-eastern portion of the county there is still an Indian Reservation belonging to the Iowas, and embracing some 12,000 acres of the choicest lands in the county. The settlement of these lands would add largely to the wealth and population of the county Brown County, Kansas 1876
Cold. I wonder how much longer that land remained reserved?
I didn’t find what you were referring to. Do I need to read the whole page? Sorry to sound like that. I swear it’s not laziness, it’s overwork. But then, you’re not my ex-husband, I know you wouldn’t perceive it that way as a matter of course. 😎
Oops, sorry, i missed the first post. Now I get what you’re talking about.
A lot of native and mixed blooded families were part of the general migration of people westward. In Vernon County, WI, where my family settled, there’s a good deal of documentation on mixed bloods who moved from Granville, NC to there. That was the 1850’s. Does that link go on to describe the sale of that reservation? I didn’t get that far.
Linda wrote: Cold. I wonder how much longer that land remained reserved?
I didn’t find what you were referring to. Do I need to read the whole page? Sorry to sound like that. I swear it’s not laziness, it’s overwork. But then, you’re not my ex-husband, I know you wouldn’t perceive it that way as a matter of course. 😎
This might be a little off the subject as I’m not sure I am completely understanding here but I thought I might add that the Iowa’s do infact still have a rez in Brown Co. Kansas still to this day. I have been there a few times but it was a few years back. Also connected to and bordering the left side of the rez is the Sac-n-Fox Nation Rez.
http://ioway.nativeweb.org/iowayksne.htm
my fiancee & i are wanting to get married in indian way. i have indian in me ..he doesn’t. can anyone give me info on how/ who to contact & ask questions about getting married that way?
thanx
malisa wrote: my fiancee & i are wanting to get married in indian way. i have indian in me ..he doesn’t. can anyone give me info on how/ who to contact & ask questions about getting married that way?
thanx
It is really hard to say because differant Tribes do it differantly. I know in my Tribe the couple geeting married are brought into the longhouse and set on a bench in the center of the longhouse while a speaker of the native language is asked to speak, he speaks of the Iroquois marriage rites. Thats really about it, thats how a Tribal marriage is done in these modern times anyways. Sometimes afterwords a social dance is held.
elkriver,
Did you catch this link tecteach put on another thread? Thre’s a long list of Seneca at Carlisle.
http://members.aol.com/tawodi/carlisle/page8.htm
malisa,
Hi dear, and best wishes on your engagement. I’m sorry I haven’t gotten around to answering your Email yet, I’ve had alot going on. I leave next week to visit my son in Washington State for 10 days.
Tutelee mine did the same thing. This is my understanding of it. Blackfoot Town was no longer safe. Many may have been headed to the new things going on in Washington state for financial reasons, spanish territory, or canada to the red river people arrea. They had probably heard that the gov was going to give away land to natives there. Perhaps the govenerment told them that to get them to go. It was also safe from Iroqoui. I understand only half the people there got land as promised, and that land has mostly been taken back.
There was a Kickapoo Chief that had converted to christianity who had long been regarded as a prophet. He had a teacher there who could teach them english, a skill they knew they would soon desperately need to survive. He gave a prophecy that affected migrations dramatically, read about it here.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/kickapoo/kickapoochiefs.htm
http://www.kansasgenealogy.com/indians/arapaho_indians_cheyenne_indians.htm
At the same time in 1840 Blackfoot Town, Md formed, many tribes at war all banding together for protection declared peace with each other and war on the settlers. Many attacks against military and settlement targets were planned. Since this cheif had control over the rez, he got listened to. He was respected by many tribes, not just his own.
He gave a prophecy that indicated that those who fled from the white man would die anyway. Those witht he courge to stay would pass through fire and water and end up with abundance of land, propesperity, freedom from all enemies, and peace with the white men. He gave them a prayer stick and made some drawings to show them. Some left anyway to Arkansas, then teo Texas, finally getting to Mexico, where they were such apain the mexican gov complaines to the US and they enticed them with land offers and made another rez in texas for them.
Most stayed and believed the prophecy, and some are still waiting for it to come to pass. They learned english, invented new names their french friends helped them invent, and went back to the east coast remade. My gggrqdnfather Sigmond came back as a PREACHER to a porminent methodist church in Washington DC. He was red as red could be but claimed to be from Basque country to expalin that and his accent away. Since Basque kept no census records, and was in Spanish Pyrennes mountains, who could legally prove him wrong? Suddenly the Portch name pops up near every rez en masse, along with Walkers and Smiths and others. Noone keeping track of who suddenly became who.
It was another way for the French to wage war on the english and trade to them without the knowing it, and for the natives to find a way to make a living and eat, most having been deprived of profitable land their trade routes. So many learned english, or their kids, and made their way back east to wait for the prophecy to come to pass.
I am trying to find the link, but I also found a list of the lands deeded and alotted to the natives there, and their names. The english names were ridiculous inventions, often very insulting and degrading, and sometimes just descriptive. Walker is on there and a bunch of other roles and deed lists. So is fast runner. And slow woman. And Dumb Woman. And No. And Can’t Speak. And ?. And a 4 yr old precious little boy newly named ‘Big F*U*C*K’. I will post the link to it as soon as I locate it again. Sorry but those names got to me. The big, good man the government sent out had to namecall defenseless little kids, who could not even understand him, and make him face that name in all his legal transactions and land deals for life? What a guy. Disgusting. But handpicked by George Washington as I understand it.
elkriver wrote: It is really hard to say because differant Tribes do it differantly. I know in my Tribe the couple geeting married are brought into the longhouse and set on a bench in the center of the longhouse while a speaker of the native language is asked to speak, he speaks of the Iroquois marriage rites. Thats really about it, thats how a Tribal marriage is done in these modern times anyways. Sometimes afterwords a social dance is held.
thank you elkriver for your reply, do you know of a phone # i can call to talk with sumone?
thank-you
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