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Here’s a line I’m stuck on. The families spent some time in Seneca County, Ohio in the early to mid 1800s.
Sarah Ann Klaiss
Born March 1, 1829 allegedly near Pittsburg, PA or Youngstown, OH
Married David Young Jan 8, 1852, near Melmore, OH which is in Seneca County.
Died Jan 2, 1908, in Courtland, Kansas
Children:
John Joseph Young, Melmore, OH, Nov. 8, 1853
Annie Elizabeth Young, Melmore, OH, Apr 9, 1855
Elmira (Ellen) Young, Melmore, OH, Nov 10, 1856
William H Young, Appanoose Co, Iowa, Apr 5, 1860
George Tilman Young, Appanoose Co, Iowa, Mar 22, 1862
Ed A. Young, Appanoose Co, Iowa, Aug 5, 1863
Lillie Young, St Clair Co, MO, Mar 2, 1866
Seeking any info on her parents and earlier generations.
David Young
Born Jan 7, 1820 allegedly near Pittsburg, PA or Youngstown, OH
Married Sarah Ann Klaiss Jan 8, 1852, near Melmore, OH which is in Seneca County.
Died May 11, 1866, in St Clair County, MO of complications from a gunshot wound.
May have had a brother, Charles, no data.
David’s parents:
John Matias Young
Born Feb 24, 1787.
Married Anna. No surname given for Anna, nor is the marriage date known.
Dates and places of death unknown.
Seeking info on David’s parents and other ancestors.
Also, family records show no prior trips to St Clair County, MO, before the Young family moved there from Iowa. The house was already there, about 12 miles south of Osceola, when the Youngs arrived. Any ideas or speculation on how or why they got this property and moved to the center of the Jesse James gang’s territory in 1866 would be welcome.
After David’s death, Sarah and the children returned to Iowa, where they still had property and a house. Sarah ran a boarding house for the coal miners. Her daughter My Annie Elizabeth met and married my great great grandfather, Oliver Johnson, when he was boarding there. We’ve got a few pictures of Oliver, but none of Annie. Oliver and earlier Johnsons had light to medium brown wavy hair and blue eyes. Until my generation, all but a few of Oliver’s and Annie’s descendants that I’ve met or seen pictures of had straight black hair and dark eyes and got very tanned very quickly.
A few questions…
Have you located either of these families on the 1850 Ohio census?
What is the source of David Young and Sarah A. Klaiss’s marriage date and location?
Does the Anna E. Young/Oliver H.P. Johnson marriage record indicate Anna’s parents’ names as David and Sarah?
Did you happen to notice on the 1860 Appanoose census that a Jacob “Claiss”, b.abt. 1834 Penn., lived two doors from David and Sarah Young?
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Bill
Bill Childs wrote: A few questions…
Have you located either of these families on the 1850 Ohio census?
What is the source of David Young and Sarah A. Klaiss’s marriage date and location?
Does the Anna E. Young/Oliver H.P. Johnson marriage record indicate Anna’s parents’ names as David and Sarah?
Did you happen to notice on the 1860 Appanoose census that a Jacob “Claiss”, b.abt. 1834 Penn., lived two doors from David and Sarah Young?
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Bill
Bill, thanks for the reply.
No, I’ve not found them on the 1850 Ohio census. My source is from family records that Oliver Johnson and his son put together, the son later putting it into booklet format and distributing it widely among his relatives. There was census research, as well as Bible records and personal knowledge of births, etc and other events. That booklet definitively states Anna’s parents’ names as David and Sarah.
Yes, I had seen that census record about Claiss before, but had forgotten about it. Other spellings include but are not limited to Clase, Klase, Kleiss, Kloss, Kleiscz.
I’ve found the name in Lehigh County, PA, Luzerne County, PA, and Seneca County, OH. Stephen Hartzell of “Senecas of the Sandusky” article fame, has done some research on the migration from Lehigh Co, PA to Seneca Co, OH. He’s included a list of names and dates of arrival in Seneca Co when known. Ephraim Klaiss is listed, butI can’t connect him with my family directly. That bit of research is here: http://www.historynotebook.com/Lehsen.htm
I would assume that the Jacob Claiss in the Iowa census is a brother of Sarah’s. I’ve seen speculation but no proof that her father was a Jacob Klaiss.
Also, I’ve been unable to find ANY Klaiss (of any of the typical spellings) in the limited census info I’ve been able to access until that 1860 Appanoose County census. However, I did find a widowed Anna Young with 2 male children under 10 yrs in the 1820 Lehigh CO, PA census. That could be my Young family, as it appears that David’s father died of “a stroke of palsy” before attaining old age.
1860 Appanoose Co., Ia Census; Independence Twp; 13 July; P.112
Household 768:
Jacob CLAISS, 26, m, – , Farmer, $0, $300, Penn.
Ann…………., 25, f, – , Penn.
John…………, 24, m, – , Penn.
Household 770:
David YOUNG, 33, m, – , Farmer, $2600, $600, Penn.
Sarah………., 30, f, – , Penn.
John…………, 7, m, – , Ohio.
Emma………., 6, f, – , Ohio.
Elmira………., 4, f, – , Ohio.
William………, 1, m, – , Ohio.
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1850 Northampton Co., Penn Census; Saucon Twp; 28 Aug; p.58 (A)
Household 397:
Jacob KLASE, 50, m, – , Farmer, $10,000, Penn.
Elizabeth….., 56, f, – , Penn.
Simon………, 22, m, – , Penn.
SALLY A……, 18, f, – , Penn (“Sally” was the nickname for Sarah)
JACOB………, 16, m, – , Penn.
JOHN……….., 14, f, – , Penn.
James………., 12, m, – , Penn.
Joseph………, 10, m, – , Penn.
There is a high degree of coincidence here, but before you can ‘bank on’ this, it would have to be determined what happened to the parents and when. The congruence of the names Sally/Sarah, Jacob & John, as well as the close correspondence of their ages, may only be coincidental – the names due to all three being fairly common names. The other ‘coincidence’ tho, is that there is a David Young there of about the correct age at the same time.
This Jacob KLASE (Klees?) may be the same who married 5 Jan 1817 in the Reformed Church of Northampton Co., Pa, Elizabeth Jacobina LYNN.
Both of them are purported to have died in Vernon Co., Wisc., however, it looks to me that more data must be found to prove they are the same persons who both are purported to have died in 1857 in Vernon Co., Wi.
Additional data:
1870 Appanoose Co., Ia Census; Independence Twp; 25 June; p.13; Household 80:
YOUNG, Sarah; 39, f, W, Keeping House; $5000, $661, Penn.
………, John J; 15, m, W, Ohio.
………, Emma E. ; 14, f, W, Ohio.
………, Elmira; 13, f, W, Ohio.
………, George; 10, m, W, Iowa.
………, Edward; 8, m, W, Iowa.
………, Mary D. ; 4, f, W, Mo.
1880 Appanoose Co., Ia Census; ED17 Independence Twp; 22 July; p.24B; Household 206:
YOUNG, Sarah; Head; W, f, 47, Widowed, Oh, NY, NY.
………, Geo; 20, Son, Ia, Oh, Oh.
………, Ed. ; 18, Son, Ia, Oh, Oh.
………, Lilly; 12, Dau, Ia, Oh, Oh. (nickname? don’t know if this is Mary or not)
………, Jacob; 28, Farmer, Oh, Oh, Oh.
………, Cath; 20, Wife, Ia, Ind, Ind. (wife of Jacob)
………, Geo. W.; 2, Son, Ia, Oh, Ia. (son of Jacob)
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Bill
Vernon County is the location of Linda’s Hudson line. It is across the river from where my folks were in IA about 4 counties away. If traveling from Vernon County, WI to Appanoose County, IA, you would go through or very near their area, Maquoketa. While this David Young can’t be your David Young, you might be interested : http://iagenweb.org/history/annals/jan1907.htm. This Potter has to be mine or related to mine. The location is right.
Techteach
Thanks, Bill. It’ll take me some time to digest that. Off the top of my head, you’ve given me some leads for further research. I’ll get back to this soon.
Techteach, thanks for the link. I’ll take a good look at it later. A cursory glance showed it to be interesting.
Bill, thanks for the work you’ve done on this line. I found an Anna Young in the Northampton County census, 1830, who was widowed and had 2 male children under 10. That would be the right age for my David Young and his brother. So that’s a definite “maybe”.
What you found on the Klase/Klaiss family is pretty close to the info my family has. The names and ages are similar, as you noted. What my great grandfather said was that family tradition had Sarah Klaiss’s mother dying of milk leg and her father of a bone disease of the ankle. If my understanding is correct, milk leg was usually a complication from childbirth, so the Klase family you’ve identified may not be the one I’m after. Then again, the Elizabeth listed could be a 2nd wife or the family lore might be incorrect. Neither Oliver (my great great grandfather) nor other family members who knew Sarah had any information on the places of Sarah’s parents’ deaths.
Northampton Co, PA makes sense, as there was quite a bit of movement from there to Seneca County, Ohio. Family lore says that the David Young/ Sarah Klase family was in Seneca County for only a few years.
David,
Hope you are still around. I found this post while researching genealogy for my brother-in-law. He is also desc. from David Young and Sarah Klaiss, through their daughter Elmira. You are probably very familiar with this family since your grandparents took care of Elmira’s daughter Jessie for about 5 years. I would love to correspond with you about the family. You can email me at gatorfan87@cfl.rr.com.
Karen McPherson
FL
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