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February 7, 2005 at 1:17 am #1367
“Rank: both Privates. Duties: Two of best marksmen and hunters. The trust and confidence Lewis and Clark had in the Field brothers is confirmed in the over 220 references to them in the journals. On July 27, 1806, Joseph, Reubin, Lewis and others are in a skirmish with some Blackfoot Indians; one or two of the Indians are killed. This is the only recorded incident in which members of the expedition take the lives of any humans. Lewis indicates that Joseph and Reubin are ‘”Two of the most active and enterprising young men who accompanied us. It was their peculiar fate to have been engaged in all the most dangerous and difficult scenes of the voyage, in which they uniformly aquitted themselves with much honor.”‘
February 7, 2005 at 1:17 am #13577I found this at: http://www.statelib.lib.in.us/www/ihb/publications/lcnine.html
Hopefully that works and it is Titled: “Lewis and Clark–Indiana Connections”
“An Issue of THE INDIANA HISTORIAN – a magazine exploring Indiana history”
“Introducing the nine young men from Kentucky and York, Clark’s slave”
The nine young men were:
William Bratton, John Colter, Joseph Field, Reubin Field, Charles Floyd, George Gibson, Nathaniel Pryor, George Shannon, John Shields, and of coarse, York.
I wasn’t sure if anyone had posted this yet, so I did a quick search and didn’t find anything. So I went ahead and posted it!;)
Lynella.
February 7, 2005 at 1:17 am #13578On the same site they have this section called: Finding Our Way Home: The Great Lakes Woodland People. In there they talk about this Indiana American Indian Theatre Company. In the list of people in this company is a woman named Stands Tall Woman and it says she is Cherokee/Sioux-Blackfoot. She’s a well known Artisan/Art Teacher, etc. I just thought that was interesting, so I threw it in the mix as well!!;) Love & Light, Lynella.
February 7, 2005 at 1:17 am #13582What does that say about Nathaniel Pryor? If you look here —
http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmayes/history.htm
it says —
Little more on the History of Mayes County:
In the beginning…. Indians called the locale around Pryor “Coo-Y-Yah” meaning place of the huckleberries. In commemoration, today, a street bears the name.
Nathaniel Pryor, great grandnephew of Pocahontas, and a scout with the Lewis and Clark Expedition, married an Osage Indian and set up a trading post near what is now the City of Pryor, Oklahoma.
Nathaniel Pryor’s gravesite had been on private property five miles southeast of Pryor for many years but in 1982 the Mayes County Historical Society moved the grave to the Fairview Cemetery, east of Pryor.
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and here —
http://www.oksenate.gov/senate_artwork/pryor_and_houston_three_forks.html
where it says —
Nathaniel Pryor (1775-1831) was an explorer, soldier, trader and Indian agent. He served as a sergeant in the Lewis & Clark expedition in 1803. During the War of 1812, Pryor served as captain under General Andrew Jackson at the Battle of New Orleans. Upon discharge from the army, Pryor settled along the Arkansas River, where he bartered with the region’s Indians. In 1819, he received a license to trade with the Osage at Three Forks, located about four miles northeast of present-day Muskogee. There, on the Verdigris, about two miles above its confluence with the Arkansas, Pryor established a trading post. General William Clark of Missouri Territory appointed him acting Osage sub-agent in 1827. Captain Nathaniel Pryor died at the Osage sub-agency, located southeast of present-day Pryor in Mayes County, Oklahoma. That community, and nearby Pryor Creek, bear his name.
http://www.ok-history.mus.ok.us/enc/Pryor.htm
PRYOR, NATHANIEL (c. 1775-1831). Explorer, soldier, trader, and Indian agent, Nathaniel Pryor was a pioneer of the Three Forks region in northeastern Oklahoma. Born in Virginia, Pryor was a son of John Pryor and Nancy Floyd. Although his year of birth is uncertain, at about twenty-three years of age Pryor married Margaret Patton in 1798.
http://www.lewis-clark.org/content/content-article.asp?ArticleID=576
here Indiana is mentioned —
athaniel Pryor was born in Amherst County, Virginia, about forty miles southwest of Charlottesville and Monticello, in the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains. No record of his birth date has been found, but he probably was about the same age as his cousin, Charles Floyd, who was born in 1782.1 His family moved to Louisville, in frontier Kentucky, when he was eleven, and he joined the expedition on October 20, 1803, at Clarksville, Indiana–one of nine recruits from Kentucky. In 1798 he had married Margaret Patton, but a descendant, John H. Prior, speculates that since Lewis had instructed Clark to take only unmarried men, his recruitment suggests that either Margaret had died, or else the two were divorced by that time.
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February 7, 2005 at 1:17 am #13583http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~lpproots/Pryor/nathaniel_pryor_3.htm
Below is another mention of him and a marriage to a Georgia girl surnamed “Melton”. Some Melton;s in Alabama were known Cherokee and migrated west with the old Settler Cherokee. They are known relations of Doublehead’s family. I don’t know if this girl is from that family or not, but it is aninteresting surname for a man who married an Osage girl later. he Osage and Old Settler Cherokee were always at war.
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According to a tradition in one branch of the Pryor family, Nathaniel married Nancy S. Melton of Putnam County, Georgia on 23rd February 1811.He is said to have lived with her for only a few months before leaving to visit a brother in Kentucky. The plan was to travel to Missouri and Tennessee to bring back a drove of horses to sell in Atlanta, Georgia. Nathaniel and Nancy were supposedly living some six miles south of Atlanta at that time. Nancy Pryor never heard from her husband again. She thought he might have started with the horses and then been killed by Indians. She obtained a divorce in 1818 and later married a man by the name of Duke.
However Nathaniel and Nancy had a son, William Stokes Pryor, who was born on 15th November 1811, a few months after Nathaniel had left.7 If this story is true, Nathaniel had deserted his young bride and set up a trading business on the frontier. He obtained a licence from Governor Clark to trade with the Winnebago Indians at a place called De Buques Mines near Galena, Illinois.
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So he appears to have had at least 3 wives, a Patton girl, a Melton girl, and the Osage girl. Aren’t the Patton’s associated with mixed blood’s in the Appalachians? I elieve I have seen that surname before.
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February 7, 2005 at 1:17 am #13586Vance,
That would be Dubuque, Iowa. I have used their historical society site to look at my family who are very near there. I can’t find the site right now, but they had a bit of historical information. When I have a minute, I will look it up and see if anything relates to the story. The Cooleys who brought my people to Iowa were there.
Techteach
February 7, 2005 at 1:17 am #13587Private John Collins was born in Frederick County, Maryland. He was entered on the expedition’s muster roll, January l, 1804, transferring from an unlisted army unit. Collins was one of five chief hunters in the Corps, along with Colter, Drouillard, and the Field brothers. Hunting was no small job, as appetites were huge. Lewis would write, “[I]t requires 4 deer, an Elk and a deer, or one buffaloe, to supply us plentifully for 24 hours.” But beyond that, hides were required for clothing and shelter, and specimens needed to be captured or killed to scientifically document the Western wildlife.
more on:
http://www.pbs.org/lewisandclark/inside/jcoll.html
February 7, 2005 at 1:17 am #13588Thanks Techteach. It implied that the Winebago Indians lived near to that place in Iowa/Illinois where your family was located, seein’ as how he was made a trader or agent to the Winebago at that place.
One of those websites mentions the same Floyd as was mentioned in Lynella’s first message, and speaks of Pryor and Floyd as being related. One article also said Nat Pryor was related to Pocahantas, and another said he was born in Amhurst county, Virginia, probably in the 1770s or 1780’s. Aren’t there people in that county called Amhurst County Indians and they are believed to be Monacan? He was an Indian trader with the Winebago and the Osage.
Other surnames were mentioned, Melton, Patton, Floyd (his mother’s maiden name).
this is interesting. Thanks Lynella for bringing this up.
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February 7, 2005 at 1:17 am #13589Brenda, you must have posted the same time I did, as your post wasn’t up when I started writing mine.
I am beginning to think of what Mr. Jarvis said about Melungeons — that they were the friendly Indians that came west with the settlers — is true of many early day western pioneers — Mixed-blood Indians were also many of the early scouts, traders, agents, and farmers too.
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February 7, 2005 at 1:17 am #13590Hi everyone!
I haven’t read the articles yet mentioned above, but when I saw the name William Stokes Pryor it rang a bell.
I mentioned a 23 page printout I have on “some” of the Allen family. This is the descendants of Richard Allen married ? Elizabeth no last name….to son Robert Allen married Elizabeth Walker.
All of the people on this 23 page printout, I just realized, are descending from son Robert II brother to my Joseph.
And Robert I and Elizabeth had many children.
One child of Robert III and Elizabeth West is Lucy Daniel ALLEN. She married first, Samuel Williams, married in 1779 and he died in 1780. She married second William MELTON Sr. William born July 31, 1761 Haw River, Orange Co, NC. Lucy born Feb. 22, 1762 in 96th Dist. South Carolina.
Child Nancy S Melton born July 16, 1789 Greene co, Ga. Married first a Mr. Kuke and second NATHANIEL HALE PRYOR! born 1775, married Feb 21, 1811 and died June 10, 1831 near Pryor, Ok.
All of the children of Robert I and Elizabeth moved out of Virginia and on except Joseph. He died about 1771..Will probated 1771 or 1772, would have to look. But many went to SC, GA, Alabama etc.
And Nancy S Melton’s sister married William Glenn..I wondered before if they didn’t go back to Glenns here on the forum.
Sue J
February 7, 2005 at 1:17 am #13592Vance, Techteach, Brenda and Sue,
WOW!:D I’m so glad I finally found something interesting! This is pretty cool, how someone starts something and others pool their knowledge and before you know it we’ve got history unfolding before our eyes with our ancestors. 😎 I was just so excited to find a documented account of Blackfoot in Indiana with a date on it! So now this is even better than that. Thank you for all the info. I’ll have to make time today to look at all these links of Vances. 😉 Love you guys! Lynella.
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