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I’m new here and looking for help on my Indian ancestors. My GGgrandmother was Susannah BURCH born 1848 and her father was Michael BURCH born 1818-1820. They lived in Washington Co, Alabama but came from somewhere else. I’ve always been told that they were Blackfoot but I assumed that had to be a mistake. Since finding these forums, I’m not so sure it was a mistake. The only BURCH family I’ve came across is the one in GA but I’ve never heard any mention of Indian ancestry in their family. There was a lady in MS that claimed to be descended from Blackfoot Burches, but I was not able to get any info on them. Does anyone know anything about Indian Burch families of the southeast?
Thanks,
p.s. I also posted on the welcome to Saponi Town forum.
Welcome Johnny, make yourself at home. I haven’t seen the name Burch before, but these names go back to where there were all kinds of spellings of the same family name, so there may be more around spelled differently. The name Bird is common in this context, but Burch seems a little bit of a stretch, but who knows?
Sometimes people have luck checking the people living around their families, mixed-blooded Indians refugees/settlers (depends on which way you look at it) tended to travel together. As you get more familiar with the names that keep cropping up with the Blackfoot ID you may start seeing a pattern.
Johnny,
This must be him.
1900 Washington Co., Ala census; ED119 Grants Borough, 6th Precinct; p.59A, 26 June, Dwelling & family # 267:
Schell, John C.; Logman; (born) Nov 1872, 27; Ala, Ill, Ala.
(ditto), Harriet V.; wife; May 1881, 19; Ala, Ala, Ala.
(ditto), John J.(T.?); son; Feb 1899; 1; Ala.
BURCH, Michael; Grandfather-in-law; Feb 1818, 82; Ga, NC, SC.
John & Harriet had been marr’d 2 yrs.
Michael Burch was widowed.
The “Ga, NC, SC” means he was b.Ga; his father was b.NC and mother in SC.
Although there was a Nancy Burch who marr’d a Reuben Weaver on 18 Oct 1865 in Washington Co., Ala., I didn’t find any BURCH family there in 1860, 1870 or 1880.
This may or may not be the same guy but with a second wife who has a dau by the last name of BOYERS. Note that this son Michael was born in Mississippi, though I didn’t find them there in 1870.
1880 Escambia Co census; ED77, Beat 7 (Canoe?), p.247C, 5th July, at 88, 88:
BERCH, Michael; 63, farmer, Ga, Ga, Ga.
(ditto), Lourana; 30, wife, Al, Ga, NC.
(ditto), Michael; 15, son, MS, Ga, (blank).
Boyers, Augusta C.; 10, step-dau; Al, Al, Al.
To cinch this together….
Who did Susannah Burch marry?
What were some of her children’s names?
Bill
Bill,
Thanks for the info so far. Some of it is starting to ring a bell for me. Harriet Victoria Dees Schell was the child of Martha, sister of Susannah. Susannah BURCH married William W. Carpenter born 1846 in FLA. (His family moved to Fla for a while and came back)The Carpenters have been in Wash. County since the 1830’s. I have all the info from Susannah and William on down. Their children are Mary Susannah, Sarah Angeline, John Michael, Margaret L., Martin V., Bushrod, James, and Walter. The indication that Michael was born in GA may be a link to the BURCH family of GA which I have questioned up to now. Your info will help me a good deal. Let me know if you come up with more.
Thanks,
Johnny
Found Michael “Birch” in 1840 Dale Co., Ala, p.12 on that census.
On p.13 is Allen Birch, Littleton Birch, Sarah Birch & John Birch.
In 1830, Littleton Burch (30 to 39 yrs old), John Burch (30 to 39) along with a Charles Burch (50 to 59) were in Laurens Co., Ga.
I speculate that Littleton, John, Allen and Michael are the children of Charles Burch and they moved to Dale Co., Ala before or after Charles died and that Sarah (40 to 49 in 1830) may be his widow but not necessarily the mother of all the children due to her age being too close to some of them.
Charles had 2 males aged 10 to 14 in his 1830 household. If Michael was born in 1818 as per the 1900 census, that would have been his age range. Allen is probably one of the 2 males who were listed as 5 to 9 yrs old in 1830 and who is 15 to 19 yrs old in 1840
Charles’s household in 1830 Laurens Co., Ga consisted of
2 males 5 to 9.
2 males 10 to 14.
2 males 15 to 19.
1 male 50 to 59.
1 female 10 to 14.
1 female 40 to 49.
On the 1850 Randolph Co., Ala census, p.313B, Allen Burch is 35, a Gold digger, b.Ga. also in that household is
Sally, 25, b.Ga.
John M., 11, Ala
Sarah, 10, Ala
Joseph, 7, Ala
Thomas, 4, Ala
Allen, 6 months, Ala.
On the 1850 Dale Co., Ala census, p.225B, John Birch is 52, Farmer, b.SC. also in his household is:
Lydia, 41, SC
Moses, 18, Ga
Sarah, 16, Ga
Olive, 13, Ga
David, 10, Ala
Charlotte, 8, Ala
Charity, 7, Ala
Amy, 5, Ala.
Still haven’t turned up Michael Burch in 1850.
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Laurens Co., Ga marriage records lists a
Michael Birch marr’d Susan Smith on Jan 3, 1839; Surety: N.W. Northern.
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Some of the Burch’s neighbors in 1830 Laurens Ga were:
Robert CARTER, 60 to 69.
Moses GREEN, 30 to 39.
James STEWART, 30 to 39.
Daget STEWART, 20 to 29.
Hardy GRIFFIN, 30 to 39.
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Bill
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