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hi everyone im new here a lot of the hudson names and areas are close to were i was born in nc the name charles hudson was a great great grandfather i was told of native american history in the hudson family i would love to know more my great grandfather ruffus franklin and my grandfather harold eugene hudson my dad alvin levern hudson his wife judy ann raymer hudson was told of her native roots iroquie i think i spelled that wrong forgive me and cherokee blood lines i would love to see my fathers roots all the hudsons in nc ive been told are in relation to me any info would be great thanks to all that help me and if can help you guys i would be glad to hope to hear from you guys soon thanks chris l hudson
Welcome Chris!
Do you have any dates for your Hudsons..birth, etc.?
One of my direct ancestral lines is Allen surname out of Va. (New Kent co, Henrico, Hanover). Joseph Allen b 1711 is my direct. His brother Robert Allen had two daughters who married Hudson brothers. They were in North Carolina too.
John Hudson born circa 1739 in Va married Elizabeth Allen. All of their children were born in Bute co NC. All of these sons…
Isaac 1763, Drury 1765, Thomas 1766, John, Jesse and William.
Brother to John who married Elizabeth Allen was William and he married Susannah Allen. Some of their children born in Va but the youngest I show born 3/18/1770 in Bute/Granville co NC. Susannah and William also had sons named Isaac and William..I show Isaac as the father to John B Circa 1739….cont
and brother William. Isaac born Circa 1705 in Va? or Md? need to find my notes on….anyway! Good possibility that we could connect here. Have you done a search here on the forum for Hudson to see other info on? We need more exact dates to help you find more on you direct line of Hudson.
Sue J
hello and thanks for your reply the only info i have on hand right now is my grand fathers and my great grandfathers rufus franklin hudson dob june 9 1905 dod sep 27 1995 born in nc harold eugene dob june 29 1924 dod june 3 2004 rufs fathers name was william or charles and the name seth hudson i hear alot my dob is nov 18 1967 in cabbarus nc rufus had 7 children harold bill hull milton and danny hudson ill have to find the rest my dad alvin levern hudson was born 195_ were not too close i hope this helps somme how what tribes do hudsons come from ive heard of choctaws named hudson what are others thanks agian chris l hudson
Sue (and Chris),
Chris’s HUDSONs go back into 1780 Virginia and 1760 Maryland.
I’m still working on where in Virginia they passed thru before they landed in NC as well as where they came from in Maryland.
Bill
thanks so much for your hard work on my family there is a seth hudson im related to also if this helps any with your research i hope it does and any one reading this is related send a message i would love to hear from you this is a great fourm and i wish everyone a good search chris l hudson thanks agian mr childs
Chris,
Here is Rufus Hudson and his line per census records.
All indivuals were listed as White and were born in NC as were their Father and Mother, unless otherwise indicated.
1930
Cabarrus Co., NC Census – ED10 Twp 4; 15 April; Sheet 21B;
Visit 360:
HUDSON, Rufus H., Buck Mason-Lumber plant; 23, m’d at 17 yr old.
…………., Zelma; wife, 23, m’d at 17.
…………., Harold E., son, 5.
…………., Cathren C., dau, 3 yrs 6 months old
…………., Billie F., son, 2 yrs 1 month.
…………., James M., son, 1 yr 1 month.
1920
Cabarrus Co., NC Census – ED41 Twp 2 Poplar Tent Pct 2; Brown Cotton Mill Village; 16-19 January; Sheet 9B; Visit 148:
HUDSON, Charlie; Cotton Mill Laborer; 50, Widowed.
…………., Fannie, dau, 21.
…………., RUFFUS, son, 16.****
…………., Iris, dau, 2 yrs 7 months.
1910
Cabarrus Co., NC Census – ED45 Twp 11; 4 May; Sheet 11A;
Visit 173:
HUDSON, Charley F.; Farm Manager; 30, m’d twice.
…………., Callie E., wife, 27, m’d once; m’d 11 yrs, 3 children.
…………., Fannie, dau, 10. (dau from 1st wife)
…………., Grace, dau, 7.
…………., RUFUS, son, 5.****
(Charles’s 1st wife’s name was not found.)
1900
Cabarrus Co., NC Census – ED22 Baptist Church Twp; 27 June;
Sheet 12A; Visit 222:
HUDSON, Charlie; Farmer, (born) Aug 1870, 29.****
…………., Callie, wife, Nov 1882, 17, m’d 5 months. (2nd wife)
…………., Fannie, dau, Nov 1897, 3.
1880
Cabarrus Co., NC Census – ED39 Rocky River Twp; 1 June; p.513A
Visit 12: (Charles’s grandmother and aunt per earlier census)
HUDSON, Sarah A.; 58, Widowed.
…………., Emma F., 24, dau.
next door at Visit 13:
HUDSON, James S., 33, Farmer.
…………., Ellen J., 32, wife, born S.C. as were both parents.
…………., CHARLES F., 8, son. (mother b. SC)****
…………., Carrie M., 6 dau. (mother b. SC)
…………., Robert A., 4, son. (mother b. SC)
…………., George R., 3 months. (mother b. SC)
1870
Cabarrus Co., NC Census – Twp 1, P.O. Concord, NC; 16 June; p.12; Visit 83:
HUDSON, Sarah; 47, $400 Real Estate; $100 Pers.Prop.
…………., JAMES S., 23, Farmer.****
…………., Ada, 15 (twin)
…………., Emma, 15 (twin)
1860 – no member of this family was found.
1850
Cabarrus Co., NC Census
Visit 1016:
F. A. HUDSON, 28, male, – , Farmer, $0, born Cabarrus Co.
Sarah A………, 27, female, – , born Cabarrus Co.
W. H………….., 5, male, – , Cabarrus Co.
JAMES S………, 3, male, – , Cabarrus Co.****
next door, Visit 1017:
Francis B. HUDSON, 69, female, – , $800, born Virginia.
James……………….., 30, male, – , farmer, Cabarrus Co.
Letta REID, 25, female, Black, Cabarrus Co.
Mary………, 3, female, Black, Cabarrus Co.
Nelson……, 1, male, Mulatto, Cabarrus Co.
Cabarrus County Court Records at Concord, NC on Ancestry.com database:
F. A. HUDSON marr’d Sarah A. ARCHIBALD
Marriage Bond #8522, on 30 August 1843.
Bondsman: James W. BRAD
……………………………………………………………….
Also in 1850 Cabarrus Co, Visit 361, living with Thomas Poteet, 50, and Esther Poteet, 44, both born Cabarrus Co., is an
Elsa HUDSON, 84, female, born Maryland in about 1766.
……………………………………………………………….
I’m speculating but James S. Hudson’s middle name could be Seth, thus accounting for the family info of a Seth Hudson.
There is a Seth Hudson in Cabarrus Co as late as the 1830 census, he had no young males in his household. There are several HUDSON households on the 1830 census with young males of the age of F. A. Hudson, b.abt. 1822:
Fanny Hudson, age 40 to 49, had 1 male age 5 to 9.
Hiram Hudson, age 20 to 29, had 1 male age 5 to 9.
John A. Hudson, age 20 to 29, had 1 male age 5 to 9.
Wiley Hudson, age 20 to 29, had 2 males age 5 to 9.
On the 1840 census, there are also 2 households with a young female to match the age of Sarah A. Archibald, b.abt. 1823.
Moses S. Archibald, age 50 to 59, had 1 female age 15 to 19.
William H. Archibald, age 40 to 49, had 1 female age 15 to 19.
Cabarrus Co was created in 1793 from Mecklenburg Co., NC and there is only one Hudson on the 1800 Cabarrus Census: Jacob Hudson. This isn’t necessarily a direct ancestor, but probably related closely if not.
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James S. Hudson’s older brother “W. H.” and his family were found on the 1900 Cabarrus Co., NC Census – ED21 Twp 10, Bethel Church; 22 June; Sheet 15 B; Visit 268:
HUDSON, William H.; farmer; (born) Apr 1845, 55, m’d 27 yrs.
…………., Francis; wife, May 1854, 46, 13 children, 10 living.
…………., Jennie E., dau, Nov 1877, 22.
…………., Theodore M., son, July 1880, 19.
…………., Lina E., dau, Feb 1884, 16.
…………., Minnie S., dau, Sept 1886, 13.
…………., Agnes G., dau, Apr 1889, 11.
…………., Fannie (?) B., dau, Oct 1891, 8.
…………., Ethel G., dau, Nov 1893, 6.
…………., Willie O., dau, July 1896, 3. Twin
…………., James G., son, July 1896, 3. Twin
James S.’s mother Sarah was living with her daughter Ada and her family in 1900:
1900 Cabarrus Co., NC Census – ED13 Rocky River Twp; 11 July; Sheet 15B; Visit 277:
DORTON, Charles H.; farmer, Nov 1856, 43, m’d 20 yrs.
…………., ADA G., wife, Mar 1855, 44, 7 children, 6 living.
…………., Emma E., dau, Feb 1883, 16.
…………., Francis L., dau, Sept 1885, 14.
…………., Roy R., son, Jan 1892, 8.
…………., Clarence A., son, Sept 1894, 5.
…………., Simeon, son, Aug 1897, 2.
HUDSON, Sarah A.; Mother-in-Law; Mar 1821, 79 Widow, 5 children, 3 living.
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Bill
wow thats alot of info man you really went at it ty so much for all your hard work your the best thanks agian anyone else if you see a conection drop me a line saj i see some names you ask about lets see if we are related agian feel free to contact me with any more info ty chris
margaret ann honbarger dob 10-31-1857dod 2-21-1950 married pinkney raymer in litaker co. nc was married in april 1881will put pictures on line soon as i figure out how you can see in there pictures there native traits they told us they were cherokee blood any inf would be great and i would be greatful her son name was george triplett raymer and his son george vernon raymer thanks everyone chris
No one actually changed their names, the census takers just couldn’t spell.
(Everyone was b. NC as were their parents)
1910
Cabarrus Co., NC Census – ED45, Twp # 11; 11 May; p.190B (sheet 17B);
Visit 304:
RAYMER, Margaret A; – , f, w, 52, widow, 7 children, 7 living.
…………, GEORGE, son, cotton mill hand, 16.
…………, Julia, dau, 14.
ROSS, David A., son-in-law, 22, m’d 1 time, m’d 6 yrs.
…….., Lillie, dau, 23, m’d 1 time, m’d 6 yrs, 2 children, 2 living.
…….., Mary B., Granddau, 4.
…….., James, Grandson, 3.
Visit 305:
DUBBS, Charles W; Cotton mill hand; m, w, 24, m’d 1 time, m’d 5.
………., Fannie; wife, f, w, 23, m’d 1 time, 2 children, 2 living.
………., Annie, dau, 4.
………., May, dau, 9 months.
………., Annie Sr., Mother, f, w, 70, widow, 8 children, 6 living.
RAYMER, James; boarder, m, w, 42, m’d 1 time.
…………, Maggie; boarder, f, w, 18, m’d 1 time, 1 child, 1 living.
…………, Rodrick; boarder, m, w, 9 months.
1900
Rowan Co., NC Census – ED102 China Grove Twp (& village; Sheet 17 B; 21 June; visit 258:
RAYMER, Pinkney; farmer, w, m, June 1859, 40, m’d 18 yrs.
…………, Margaret; wife, w, f, Oct 1857, 42, m’d 18, 7 child, 7 living
…………, William; son, Aug 1881, 18.
…………, Mary, dau, June 1883, 16.
…………, Lilly; dau, July 1885, 14.
…………, James; son, June 1887, 12.
…………, John; son, June 1891, 9.
…………, GEORGE; son, Apr 1894, 6.*******
…………, Bula; dau, Aug 1896, 3.
NC Marr. Record Index 1850 – 1900:
Pinkney H. Raymer m’d Margaret Honbarger, on April 18, 1881 in Rowan Co., NC.
1880
Rowan Co., NC Census – ED243 Litaker Twp; 26-28 June; p.359D; visit 304:
HONBARGER, William; farmer, w, m, 72.
………………., Mary; wife, w, f, 59.
………………., Elizabeth, dau, 39.
………………., Margaret A., dau, 22.*******
………………., Thomas, son, 19.
same 1880 census, ED240 Locke Twp; 19-25 June; p.32 (305D); Visit 252:
RAYMER, Pinkney; w, m, 21, single, Farmer.
1870
Rowan Co., NC Census; Litaker Twp; 25 Aug; P.O.: China Grove; p.476A; visit 61:
HORNBARGER, Wm. A.; 62, m, w, Farmer, $105, $100.
…………………, Mary, 50, f, w.
…………………, Elizabeth, 30.
…………………, Jacob, 24.
…………………, John A., 22.
…………………, Jeremiah, 20.
…………………, MARGARET, 13.*******
…………………, William F.; 8.
next door, visit 62:
HORNBARier(?), Eli; 47, m, w, farmer, $25, $0.
………………….., Margaret, 36, f, w.
………………….., Catherine, 87, f, w. (nee: LINGLE)
………………….., Amanda, 9, f, w.
NC Marr. Bonds, 1741-1868:
William Hornbarger & Polly O’Neal; (Polly is nickname for Mary)
Bond Date: 30 Sep 1839; Bond # 8483;
Bondsman: Daniel Stafford.
NC Marr. Bonds, 1741-1868:
Daniel Hornbarger & Catharine Lingle;
Bond Date: 6 Nov 1804; Bond # 126045;
Bondsman: Henry Hornbarger.
1860
Rowan Co., NC Census; South of Salisbury; P.O.: Salisbury; 12 June; p.221A: Visit 129:
W. A. HORNBARSER, 51, m, w , farmer, $60, $70.
Mary………………….., 36, f, w .
Elizabeth……………., 19.
Jacob…………………., 15.
John A…………………, 12.
Jeremiah…………….., 8.
MARGARET A…………, 2.
Catharine……………., 70.
1850
Rowan Co., NC Census; School Dist. 22; 28 October; p.184;
Visit 1447:
William HORNBARSIER, 42, m, – , Cabinet Maker, $50.
Mary………………………, 29, f, – .
Elizabeth……………….., 9.
Jacob…………………….., 5.
John A……………………., 2.
Jeremiah…………………, 2 months.
Catharine……………….., 60.
1840
Rowan Co., NC Census; p.48:
Daniel HORNBARGER:
(household contains)
1 male under 5.
1 male 10 to 14.
1 male 20 to 29.
1 male 50 to 59. (Daniel)
1 female 5 to 9.
1 female 15 to 19.
1 female 30 to 39.
1 female 50 to 59 (Catherine)
A Catherine Lingle, b.abt. 1788 Rowan Co., NC, and supposedly d. before 1852 Butler Co., Ohio, is confused in several family trees with your Catherine Lingle, who, according to the 1860 & 1870 Rowan Co NC Census, was very much alive. The funny thing is that this other LINGLE line was related to the CRUSE/GRUSS family in Penn that your LINGLE people are probably descended from.
It looks to me like your HORNBARGERs came from Botetourt/Fincastle (now Montgomery) Co., Virginia prior to 1780s., and probably had moved there from Northampton Co., Penn. I have no “absolute” proof of that, but it would provide a good roadmap for your further research.
I couldn’t identify Pinkney Raymer any earlier.
Bill
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