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Hey all,
Thanks for all the imput… sorry to say I’ve made no progress the last week mainly due to constant ‘puter problems. Time to bite the bullet & go for something new 🙁
I too had come to the realization that Ava Nancy just might NOT have actually been born in Hawkins Co. but perhaps in NC or VA. I wonder how many other Gibson families migrated with Shepard Gibson?
No progress on finding Sarah Thompson in Scott co. VA either. I came across some information that I think links at least some of the Thompsons from that area are related to some enrolled cherokee Thompsons. Naturally, this would be when the ‘puter died and I am unable to retrace my exact steps to find the info 🙁
I may not be able to post here for a while, but I hope others will continue to dig out this Gibson clan. It would be so exciting to be able to put us all together in our proper lines to see how we are related to one another.
AMinKY
aminky,
I have Thompons in Scott Co, VA around 1800. Jonathon Thompson, b about 1745, married Rebecca (?). They are members of the Thompson Settlement Church in 1830’s, Jonathon is listed as deceased in 1832 but Rebecca is still alive then. Their son is William Thompson b. about 1803 who married Catherine Porter Carter b. 1815 (these dates are approximate, I don’t have my notes with me now). One of their sons is Sylvester Elijah Thompson b. 1837, my gr.gr. grandfather who married Sarah Jane Mark(s).
I believe there are at least two unrelated Thompson families in Lee Co. VA in the 1800’s. There are a Steven “Long Steve” Thompson also and a Capt. James Thompson in the early 1800’s in Lee/Scott Co’s VA that I don’t think are related to my line. I haven’t found any direct NDN connections to this family though. Sarah Jane Mark(s) is descended from John “Old Trader” Benge and his white wife, Elizabeth Lewis and their son Thomas (I think that’s the name).
Jim
Jim
Wowza Aminky! You made my day !!! I had never before seen “Elizabeth” (Gibson) Mullins’ Eastern Cherokee Application….I suppose due in part to the fact that I knew her as her given name: Nancy Elizabeth Gibson…so this is wonderful news and I thank you for posting/sharing. Her father’s family did quite a bit by way of “sticking close to home” when marrying…and tracing them is always confusing because of the name variations. Her father Keener was also known as Kenner…his sibs: Morning (who MD Samuel Mullins), Mary (md1: Dotson Gibson; md2: Samuel Mullins*above widow of her sister), Preston (md1: Margaret UNK 1 CH; md2: UNK 1 CH), Zachariah (md: Louvinia Alsept) & James called Jim (no information). Kenner’s children with wife Hettie Collins were: Preston (md : Margaret Goins), Nancy Elizabeth (md: Reuben Mullins), Nancy Jane (md1: Elbert Mullins; md2: Madison Mullins; md3: William Davidson), Eliza Jane (no info), Andrew J. (md: Sarah UNK), Kelly (no info), William K. (no info), Hillary (male; thought to have died young), & Queen Victoria (no info but a right groovy name!).
Reuben Mullins’ family is quite well documented and connects in many ways to my Gibson, Cole, Collins and Nichols lines….which is a double edges sword in many ways…makes for LOTS of info but sorting it is the wicked task for us.
Kizziah Gibson’s line is also connected directly to my maternal Nichols line in that she was purportedly a sister to my G G G grandmother Nancy Gibson. I find it most interesting that you mention her sibling: AVA….I had never before seen her name made mention of…I knew all of the other siblings names as Kezziah’s (and more) but that is right interesting so I will definately have to see what else is out “there” on Ava Gibson. Kezziah’s siblings I know as: Elizabeth “Betty” (mg UNK), Tyre (md: Martha J. Sevier), Alexander (md: Mary UNK), Burwell (md: Cynthia Gibson), Ira (md1: Christina Shepherd; md2: Mary Ann “Polly” Nichols; md3: Sarah Wireman), Hezekiah (md1: Nancy Nichols; md2: Margaret “Martha” Hensley), Mary “Polly” (no info), Francis (no info), Squire (md1: Nancy “Sibbie” Harmon; md2: Nancy Smith; md3: Perlina Jane Cole), Caryan (no info), Kissiah/Kezziah*above*, Nancy (*MY purported ancestor md: State Nichols), Dicey (no info), Jefferson (*MAY have md Rachel Cornwell), Elijah (no info) and now: Ava! (whew* I’m worn out just THINKING about that many kids!…I have 5 and that is plenty!!!)
Anywho…I hope this helps someone to some measure and again…I thank you for posting such close to home and wonderful information. Blessings to you and yours~~~~Laurie
Hi,
You may already have this, and it might not be helpful, but there’s a marriage record in Rockingham Co, NC for:
Henry P. FEATHERS and Ann E. ADAMS….12 Feb 1851
aminky wrote: Greetings to my cousins/brothers/sisters on this forum!
I have recently started tracing my family’s “your g-grandmother was 1/2 Cherokee” legend. I didn’t quite find that to be true, but have found some possible native american connections and leads. Mostly, I come up with folks I just can’t seem to find info on, and I’m given to understand that lack of info plus family tradition indicates *possible* NA. Possibly several of the names on my “Mystery Ancestor” list will be quite familiar here… 🙂 I wonder how many others here may be searching for or know of connections I don’t have??
Anyway, here goes my list – and all of this is from the internet, with little or ususally NO documentation, so take it for what it is worth.
1. Elizabeth Mary “Betsy” b. c. 1735 Descendants claim she was a Feathers, a Cherokee Indian.
Married Richard Parsons, Born: 1730 at: Surrey or Wilkes County, North Carolina, Died: 21 FEB 1785 at: Pittsylvania Co Va.
Married: 1744 in NC
Notes: At least one website gives the parents of Elizabeth as John L. Feathers & Sarah Sherrett and another speculates she may have been a Spence. Apparently there are two Richard and Elizabeth Feathers Parsons. The older pair were born 1720 & 1725 and were married in Va. Their children were Hannah, Agness, George, Joseph, Sr, James, John, John, Samuel, William and Richard, Jr, Lydia and Joseph. My ancestors were born in 1730 & 1735 and married in NC. Their children were: James, Joseph, George, Jonathan, Mary, Tabitha, Milly and John.
2. Eva/Ava/Avy Nancy Gibson (born c. 1790-1795 in TN, died 1866 in Fairfield, Jefferson Co. (which may be in IA, WV or VA, depending on the source)
Married Samuel David Marion b.1790 in Va. d.1845
(from http://community-2.webtv.net/GinnyLee1/TheMarionFamilyofVa/page13.html:) Resided in Va., Claireborne & Hawkins Counties, Tenn., Edgar & Cole Counties, Ill., Mo., & Iowa he fought in war of 1812 Enlisted in East Tn. Militia under Bunch’s Regiment.4/27/1814 joined Capt. Dobbins Co. 6/3/1814 discharged as a Private, buried at Fort Madison, Lee County, Va.
Note: Lee co. VA & Hawkins/Claiborne co. TN are right on the VA/TN border and is the focus of Melungeon research as noted in other threads on this board.
3. Sarah E. Thompson (possible birth: 1827, Scott county VA)
Married William N. Marshall, b. c. 1822, Stokes co. NC
May not be same name couple that married April 1847 in Tipton, TN
Children:
Anna MARSHALL b: Abt 1850 in Lee Co, Virginia
Martha MARSHALL b: Abt 1852 in Lee Co, Virginia
Benjamin Franklin MARSHALL b: Abt 1854 in Lee Co, Virginia
Mary MARSHALL b: Abt 1856 in Proctor, Owsley Co, Kentucky
Alfred MARSHALL b: Abt 1859 in Proctor, Lee Co, Kentucky
Note: Could this be a daughter of William P. Thompson, born c. 1790 TN??
4. Mollie Gilbert, b. c. 1706,
married Thomas Noble in Prince George Co, Maryland.
(Thomas born in 1704 in New Mill, Banffshire, Scotland, Died March 3, 1762 in
Frederick, Maryland. )
Children: George Noble, Thomas Noble.
George Noble. Born ? in Prince George Co, Maryland. Died Sept 1800 in Frederick Co (now Clark Co) Maryland. Spouse: Mary Anne Alexander, the daughter of Gerald Alexander & Mary Dent.
Children: George Noble (see below), John LW, Mary Anne, Thomas, Alexander, Catherine.
5. Julie Winnie Saunders, b. c. 1755-1760, possibly Culpeper, VA (Have also seen birthplace listed as PA. Could Winnie be from the Welsh Wynne??)
Married George Noble. Born 1751 in Fairfax, VA. Died in Loundon Co, VA.
Parents: George Noble & Mary Anne Alexander.
Children: Nathan Noble, Enoch, Ethan, Mary, William, Patsy, Mollie, John.
So there is where I am at present in my research.
AMinKY
Avy Nancy Gibson was my G-g-g-grandmother.Her daughter, Rebecca was married to my G-g-grandfather, Fleming Thorpe. Avy and Samuel David Marrion moved west and are buried in Fairfield Iowa. Some of the kids went on west and was a part of the Oregon Trail. I think Avy’s dad was George Gibson but I have been unable to find documentation of this. Too many George Gibsons. A lot of the Gibsons were/are Melungeon.
My name is Cleland Thorpe and I live in Corbin Ky in the summer and Weslaco Texas in the winter. Let me hear from you and I will try and share what I have on these families.
aminky wrote: I am coming up with a few Ava Gibson/Ava Gipson hits, but most are a bit later than the one I’m looking for. Unless she married VERY young 😮 But now I am wondering if the Cherokee part was right after all, as I found this rather tantalizing tibbet:
United States of America
State of Oklahoma
County of Muskogee
Elizabeth Gibson Mullins
Be it remembered, that on this seventeenth day of December in the year of your Lord one thousand, nine hundred and seven, before me a notary public within and for the county and state aforesaid, personally appeared Elizabeth Mullins, of Muskogee, in said county, the applicant before the Special Commissioner of the Court of Claims for the Eastern Cherokee Enrollment, whose application is numbered 294, who being by me first duly sworn according to law, doth depose and say in relation to the above mentioned claim as follows:
My grandfather, Joe Gibson, also called “Fisher” Gibson, lived in Lee County, Virginia, and when the Indians were driven out of Virginia, he ran away from there, and settled in Eastern Tennessee, where my father, Keener Gibson, was born, and where my father lived during his whole life. There was no tribal district where we lived and no tribal rolls were kept there, and that is the reason that we lost our enrollment. The Indian people in that region and time were unlettered, and there was no one to insturct them in regard to keeping up their tribal relations. I have often heard my father say that he had land in the West if he was only able to go and get it. I was married in Tennessee and lived there until about five years ago, when I moved to texas, and i have never lived where I could be enrolled until since the Cherokee rolls were closed. My grandfather could not talk English, and spoke only the Cherokee language, and my father spoke both English and Cherokee.
Elizabeth Mullins Her Mark
17th day of december 1907
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Ruben Mullins
English Name: Ruben Mullins
Indian Name: Unknown
Residence: Muskogee
State: Indian Territory
Date and Place of Birth: February, 1855 Hancock County, Tenn.
By what right do you claim to share? If you claim through more than one relative living in 1851, set forth each claim separately: Through my grandfather (maternal) Solomon Collins (full-blood Cherokee)
Give names of your father and mother, and your mother’s name before marriage
Father –English name: John Mullins
Indian name: unknown
Mother–English name: Mahala Collins Mullins
Indian name: unknown
Where were they born?
Father: Hancock Co., Tenn.
Mother: Hancock Co., Tenn.
Where did they reside in 1851 if living at that time?
Father: Hancock Co., Tenn.
Mother: Hancock Co., Tenn.
Date of death of your father and mother
Father: Fall of 1900 Mother Sept. 1901
REMARKS:
Solomon Collins is said to crossed into Tennessee and married Jincy Goins, and settled there, because he was afraid the chief would kill him if he returned to the tribe.
Signature
Ruben Mullins His Mark
8th day of November 1906
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Kizziah Gibson
Residence; Gulleltt Kentucy
Aunt of 31695 and claims throught the same source
[31695 is Christina Cole, daughter of Hezekiah Gibson]
How old are you [1837] born in Tennessee
Are you married No
To what tribe of Indians does he or she belong? Cherokee
Father and Mother; Bryson Gibson and Fannie Gibson
Where were they born?
Father; in Virginia or Tenn
Mother; ” ”
Where did they reside in 1851 Don’t know [Hezekiah/Kiah Gibsons
application says they lived in Morgan Co., Ky.]
Father died 1865
Mother died 1867
Brothers and sisters
Tyra Gibson
Polly Gibson
Dice Gibson
Alex Gibson
Betty Gibson
Ava Gibson
Burl Gibson
Kiah Gibson
State English and Indian names of your grandparents
Thomas Gibson
Polly Gibson
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Still nothing certain for me here. Shirley, I think I may have come across references to John Gibson and George Gibson born in NC – do you have dates for them?
AMinKY
This Avy Gibson was married to Charles Gibson. He was my G-g-grandfather on my paternal grandmother’s side of the family. The Collins listed on the Cherokee application are also my ancestors. I have a copy of that application.
Cleland
aminky wrote: I am coming up with a few Ava Gibson/Ava Gipson hits, but most are a bit later than the one I’m looking for. Unless she married VERY young 😮 But now I am wondering if the Cherokee part was right after all, as I found this rather tantalizing tibbet:
United States of America
State of Oklahoma
County of Muskogee
Elizabeth Gibson Mullins
Be it remembered, that on this seventeenth day of December in the year of your Lord one thousand, nine hundred and seven, before me a notary public within and for the county and state aforesaid, personally appeared Elizabeth Mullins, of Muskogee, in said county, the applicant before the Special Commissioner of the Court of Claims for the Eastern Cherokee Enrollment, whose application is numbered 294, who being by me first duly sworn according to law, doth depose and say in relation to the above mentioned claim as follows:
My grandfather, Joe Gibson, also called “Fisher” Gibson, lived in Lee County, Virginia, and when the Indians were driven out of Virginia, he ran away from there, and settled in Eastern Tennessee, where my father, Keener Gibson, was born, and where my father lived during his whole life. There was no tribal district where we lived and no tribal rolls were kept there, and that is the reason that we lost our enrollment. The Indian people in that region and time were unlettered, and there was no one to insturct them in regard to keeping up their tribal relations. I have often heard my father say that he had land in the West if he was only able to go and get it. I was married in Tennessee and lived there until about five years ago, when I moved to texas, and i have never lived where I could be enrolled until since the Cherokee rolls were closed. My grandfather could not talk English, and spoke only the Cherokee language, and my father spoke both English and Cherokee.
Elizabeth Mullins Her Mark
17th day of december 1907
=================
Ruben Mullins
English Name: Ruben Mullins
Indian Name: Unknown
Residence: Muskogee
State: Indian Territory
Date and Place of Birth: February, 1855 Hancock County, Tenn.
By what right do you claim to share? If you claim through more than one relative living in 1851, set forth each claim separately: Through my grandfather (maternal) Solomon Collins (full-blood Cherokee)
Give names of your father and mother, and your mother’s name before marriage
Father –English name: John Mullins
Indian name: unknown
Mother–English name: Mahala Collins Mullins
Indian name: unknown
Where were they born?
Father: Hancock Co., Tenn.
Mother: Hancock Co., Tenn.
Where did they reside in 1851 if living at that time?
Father: Hancock Co., Tenn.
Mother: Hancock Co., Tenn.
Date of death of your father and mother
Father: Fall of 1900 Mother Sept. 1901
REMARKS:
Solomon Collins is said to crossed into Tennessee and married Jincy Goins, and settled there, because he was afraid the chief would kill him if he returned to the tribe.
Signature
Ruben Mullins His Mark
8th day of November 1906
==============================
Kizziah Gibson
Residence; Gulleltt Kentucy
Aunt of 31695 and claims throught the same source
[31695 is Christina Cole, daughter of Hezekiah Gibson]
How old are you [1837] born in Tennessee
Are you married No
To what tribe of Indians does he or she belong? Cherokee
Father and Mother; Bryson Gibson and Fannie Gibson
Where were they born?
Father; in Virginia or Tenn
Mother; ” ”
Where did they reside in 1851 Don’t know [Hezekiah/Kiah Gibsons
application says they lived in Morgan Co., Ky.]
Father died 1865
Mother died 1867
Brothers and sisters
Tyra Gibson
Polly Gibson
Dice Gibson
Alex Gibson
Betty Gibson
Ava Gibson
Burl Gibson
Kiah Gibson
State English and Indian names of your grandparents
Thomas Gibson
Polly Gibson
============
Still nothing certain for me here. Shirley, I think I may have come across references to John Gibson and George Gibson born in NC – do you have dates for them?
AMinKY
The Gibsons and Collins on this application are direct ancestors of mine. I have a copy of this application.
Cleland
Hi everyone,
Are there any Minnie Gibsons from Eastern South Carolina my great grand mother’s name was Minnie Gibson and she was from around Florence South Carolina?
Information about Ruben Mullins can be found in the book “Lest we Forget” The Melungeon Colony by Jim Callahan. Jim is the G-G-Grand son of John and Mahala Mullins. Lots of pictures and copies of the enrollment applications of Elizabeth Mullins and Ruben Mullins can be found in Chapter 10 of this book.
As for Ava/Avy Gibson; I know of at least 2. One was married to Charles Gibson. These two were my G-G-Grandparents. The other Ava/Avy Nancy Gibson was married to Samuel David Marion. Samuel David Marion Sr is buried in the Clark Cemetery near Jonesville Virginia. Samuel Jr and Avy’s daughter was married to Fleming Thorpe, also my G-G-Grandparents. These folks were in Lee County Virginia. The Marions moved on to Fairfield Iowa.
Cleland
Bill Childs wrote: Cleland, Are you back in Corbin where you have your notes?
Bill,
I am back in Ky. My computer crashed so I lost a lot of e-mails. If you were needing something from me, re-post the request and I will try and get it for you.
Cleland:D
In Bedford County, VA:
FEATHER, FEATHERS
- Jul. 27, 1807; Peter Horn & Sally Feather; Philip Feather, Surety.
- May 20, 1808; George Horn & Betsy Feather; Philip Feather, Surety.
- Nov. 7, 1818; Wigton Richardson & Eve Feather, dt Henry P.; John Feather, Surety; Married by Joseph Payne.
- Jul. 21, 1828; Samuel Ronk & Nancy Feather, dt Henry P.; John Feather, Surety.
- Dec. 2, 1831; Joseph Feather & Rutha Asbury, dt Nancy; John Horn, Surety; Married by Stephen Wood, Dec. 4, 1831.
- Mar. 25, 1832; John Feather & Polly Ridgeway, dt Joseph, Sr.; Joseph Ridgeway, Jr., Surety; Married by Stephen Wood, March 29, 1832.
- Apr. 28, 1834; Joseph Feather & Julian Neighbors, dt Fleming; Cornelius Horn, Surety; Married by Stephen Wood, June 3, 1834.
- Oct. 23, 1837; Clinton Richardson & Nancy Feather; William Barton, Surety; Married by Benjamin Meador.
- Oct. 29, 1846; Richard B. Feathers & Mary Ann Wright, dt Elizabeth; Anthony P. Wright, Surety.
- Nov. 11, 1850; Wiley Harris & Sarah Feather, dt Peter; Clinton Richardson, Surety; Married by Benjamin Meador.
- Feb.___ 12, 1851; H. R. Feather & Ann E. Adams; Married by J. P. Grogan.
- Dec. 30, 1852; Thos. Dooley & Mary N. Feather; Married by T. C. Goggin.
- Dec. 30, 1852; Adam P. Feather & Mary C. Gilpin; Married by T. C. Goggin.
I also have the Nichols and Gibson ancestors. Clarinda Gipson was my GGgrandmother. I also have Polly Nichols.My Grandmother and Grandfather Cornwell , were cousins. so the Gibson and Nichols lines run strong. This part of the Nichols family live around Wilmington, Ohio
My Francis & Massa Smith were in Clinton Co. Ohio in 1820-40 range, before heading to Indiana. Another poster here suggests they were Saponi but I’m stumped as to how to find more facts on that possibility and the poster is apparently no longer using this board. I’ve got land records, land entry case files, censuses, etc. but nothing there. I’ll be in Wilmington again in October and don’t want to miss anything this time. Any suggestions ? Thanks.
Hey Vailette, there’s a search button at the top right of the page, when you click on that it says “advanced search”, then it will take you to a page that has a couple of windows to fill in, that may help you find more of what it is you are looking for. Try that and if that does not answer your questions , please post again.
I hope that this helps.
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