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January 7, 2006 at 3:56 am #2004
I have visited this forum several times and have really enjoyed what I have found so far.(So much info..not enough time to absorb it all..:) I am trying to find the origins of my ancestors. For years I thought we were Cherokee but have not been able to confirm anything. I have search for 16 years with no luck…then I found your web site….maybe we’re NOT cherokee after all. I got a note just last week from my great Aunt that we were Blackfoot. Now we have another thread to chase but I have no clue on how to do this. Can anyone help? Here are some of my family names and places, maybe it will help.
Clay – Va to KY
Setser- NC to KY
Pinion – NC to KY
Gowen – Va to KY
Collins- MD to KY
Gob(b)le – MD to KY
Ward – VA
Skeens- VA to KY
Wilson -Va to KY
Martin – Lincoln/Catawba co. NC
Loncrier – Lincoln/Catawba co. NC
I’m sure these families settled somewhere in between in the meantime. Most of these families settled in Pike and Floyd co.KY
and one settled in Warren co. KY
Any help would be most appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
Debi
January 7, 2006 at 3:56 am #18539Hi, Debi, and Welcome.
What are the first & last names, dates and locations for your earliest people of those surnames and who did they marry? Posting each family as a separate, new thread, would help us out alot.
Bill
January 7, 2006 at 3:56 am #18542Dear Bill,
Thank you for your reply…I hope this helps….:)
Thomas Pinion b.1793 Surry co.NC Married Martha “Patsy” Gowen b.1798 Patrick co.Va.
Robert Clay b.1795 Va Married Sarah Setz(s)er b. 1820 NC
Araminta Clay b.1855 Floyd co. Ky married James Franklin Pinionb. 1844 Russel or Washington co VA (family legand of NA blood)(had pictures of family in regalia)
John Collins b.1804 MD Married Emaline Gob(b)le b.1826 Washington co. Va (Family legand of NA blood)
Jacob Gob(b)le b.1792 Fredrick co. MD Married Kitty Ward b.1792 washington co Va
Sarah Skeens b. 1863 Wolliamson W.Va Married Jacob Collins b. 1850 Floyd co KY
Jonathan Wilson b.1785 Montgomery co Va married Caty graville( Graybill) b. 1795 Wythe co Va or Warren co. KY(legend NA blood)
Mahala Martin b.1813 Lincoln or catawba co Nc married Peter C. Kaylor b.1808 Lincoln or catawba co NC (possible NA)
Hannah Longcrier b 1781 NC married ? Kaylor from PA or VA
These birth dates are approximate. I have included areas of possible NA blood…maybe we can confirm or debunk these stories.Thank you.
Debi
January 7, 2006 at 3:56 am #18558Debi,
Please allow some time to work these through.
Bill
January 7, 2006 at 3:56 am #18565Hello Debi…and welcome to the site from another “kinda newbie” too! I love how open-minded and helpful the folks here have been…so plan on sticking around awhile girl. LOL
I wanted to make mention of a few things that caught my eye in your surname posting: 1. I have about 600 or more Collins in my database currently…and it keeps expanding radically by the month….there are a few Collins folks that come here and they have just a wealth of info so use the “search site” feature and be sure and check out the Collins postings here at Saponitown…you are certain to find some neat and helpful info.
2. My paternal line connects to a GOBLE/GOBEL family that were apparently German in origin (My paternal great grandmother was Mary Goble; she md. Frank Taber)….and while TRYING to learn and locate info about her I came across a neat lil GOBLE family website that is a comprehensive listing site for all Goble descendants….lots of trees and pics and even a forum too….so peek at it at your leisure if you wish as it may prove to be helpful. The URL is: http://hometown.aol.com/engineer9/genealogy/gobel/index.htm
*You can move from one place to another pretty easilly there and if you are still at a loss as to the origins of your GOBLE family beginnings…I met and emailed a wonderful mature genealogy researcher that is just as lovely as can be…she is SO nice and helpful and knowledgeable about all of the various Goble familyu branches and will email you back promptly too. Her name is Evelyn and she can be emailed at: GOBLENEWS@aol.com.
Best of luck to you in all of your family tree ventures. Blessings from Cincy~~~~~Laurie
January 7, 2006 at 3:56 am #18570Laurie,
Thank you for the warm welcome. It really is nice to find those that are willing to help without making one feel inadequate. I really appreciate the links…I’ll be sure and check them out.
Debi
January 7, 2006 at 3:56 am #18571Bill,
Thank you for your time and efforts.
Debi
January 7, 2006 at 3:56 am #18572If both of you, Debi and Laurie, have Collins, Gobble and a Blackfoot story in your families, you may want to pursue the theory that your families were part of a community.
Debi, with the surnames of Collins, Goins, Clay and Martin you are wise to pursue this trail. Those names have been noted by other researchers as associated with the Saponi, whom we believe the Blackfoot ID is a marker for. Pike County, KY is a common location for the Blackfoot ID, with some families indicating a migration from old Saponi territories, with surnames fitting the pattern.
January 7, 2006 at 3:56 am #18582Linda
Thanks for you for your encouragement. Now I need a BIG favor…….I need direction. Where do I find some of this Saponi information that would best help me confirm my families?
I think I searched every “Cherokee”file and roll available when I thought we were Cherokee….to no avail. Now, maybe I know why!
This is very exciting for me and I am so appreciative for this site and new found “friends”.
Thank you,
Debi
January 7, 2006 at 3:56 am #18583Debi,
Use the “search” button up on the right side of the page for
Saponi….
Collins….
Gowen….
and all the variations including:
Goin
Goins
Goings
Cowen
Cowan
etc.
and others I can’t think of this early in the morning!
January 7, 2006 at 3:56 am #18598Bill,
Thank you for the help. I am just about crosseyed from reading and trying to absorb it all…..but this is a great start. Thank you.
I left out my NAPIER family in my previous post. This is what I have.
Thomas Napier b.1774 SC married Haney Smith b. 1778 VA
Moses Napier b.1807 cove creek VA married Vicey Adkins b.1810 Cabell co WV
Youngea Napier b.1827 Cabell co. married Elizabeth Wooten b.1841 Kentucky
I have the names of most of of the sibblings also….but this is my line.
Debi
January 7, 2006 at 3:56 am #18601Hi Debi!
I have the direct name of Wooten too. Martha Wooten and Josiah Tanner. Martha Wooten’s father was Samuel and wife Sarah ?. This family was in Va, then Henry co Ky and onto Jennings co Ind.
The Napier and Shelton and Allen lines connect too. If you search Napier you’ll find more if you haven’t already searched it here on the forum.
Welcome! Sue J
January 7, 2006 at 3:56 am #18612Hi Sue!
Thanks for the welcome! I haven’t searched the” Napier” on here yet but be sure that I will.
This site has been such a help to me and I thank you all.
Sue….Maybe we can connect on the Napier line. Sure is a small world isn’t it?!(especially when the families are from the same areas…:))
Debi
January 7, 2006 at 3:56 am #18627The Napper family from Louisa county Virginia has been associated with mixed race peoples. I have seen the name also written as Napier.
January 7, 2006 at 3:56 am #36769I have a Mary Ann Ward (b.1816 OH ?)
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