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January 21, 2003 at 6:10 am #7020
There is another one to add to the bunch……BUNCH
Micajer “Cage” Bunch 1733- 1804
http://www.geocities.com/ourmelungeons/bunch3.html
Old Thomas Collins
http://www.angelfire.com/wv2/dillon1944/old_thomas_collins_of_flatt_river.htm
Sizemore
http://home.cinci.rr.com/ancestry/sizemorelink.html
January 21, 2003 at 6:10 am #7023Coheelady & Everyone,
If any of you would like to join us at our research site on the Bolings (any spelling), please email me at: rsmith0127@yahoo.com with your first & last name as well as a short bio on yourself- including the fact that you are part of the Saponitown Forum, and I’ll send you an invitation! The site is on MyFamily.com and it requires a “User Name” and “Password” to get into it. The short bio allows me to introduce you to about 100 other researchers on the site.
Coheelady, my apologies for not getting back to you on your previous reply asking to get into the site. I’m so EXCITED to be part of this forum. Crystal has sure helped me see some light at the end of the tunnel too. Thank you, everyone, for any help you’ve been able to give and for any help you might give in the future. Please let me return the favor, if I can. Ron
January 21, 2003 at 6:10 am #8214Hi… I was reading the whole thread about your Bowling family ties and thought I might share with you mine…. I have a Wright Bowling/Bolin, born around 1832 in Clay County, KY, married Marinda Collins (b. abt. 1837 in Clay County, KY)…. Marinda is the daughter of Calvin Collins (b. abt. 1810 in TN), who is son of Amos Collins.
As far as I know, Wright’s parents are John Bowling/Bolin (b. abt. 1790 in VA) and Sarah Henson. His grandparents are William Bowling/Bolin and Sarah Fugate.
I think this is the same line of Bowlings/Bolins that descended from the John Rolfe and Pocahontas line.
Carrie E. Collins
January 21, 2003 at 6:10 am #8220Hi Carrie!
Thanks for your reply to my post. I’d be more than happy to send you an invitation to join the rest of us on our site. Look for the invitation from MyFamily.com in your email. Also, look for your user name and password. You can change both to anything you’d like. Also, there’s a link that you can click on that will take you to the site. Follow the instructions to get on the site. If you have any problems getting on or after you get there, let me know. Welcome to our research site, Carrie! Ron
January 21, 2003 at 6:10 am #9486Greetings from Arkansas!
I am also a decendant of the Bowling/Bolling/Bollin family thru Nancy Eli Bowling and Thomas Boone Roberts. I have always been told that our family was connected to Pocahantas, but I have discovered that my ancestor, Benjamin Bowling, may actually have been a son of a William Bowling, “born in the Saponi Nation”.
I have also seen a family tree posted on the net that lists Ben’s son, Rev. Jesse Bowling as “Melungeon?”
I would be happy to share what info I have on my Bowlings.
Hope you have good luck ancestor hunting!!
-Paula
January 21, 2003 at 6:10 am #9509Hi Paula!
Thanks for responding to my post! I really get excited when someone answers that might have something that may tear down a few bricks in my “Boling” brick wall. I’m firmly convinced that my Boling line did NOT descend from Pocahontas BUT probably did descend from the Saponi indians instead. I have traced my Boling lineage back to a William Boling/Bowling, b. Abt. 1755 and married to an “Elizabeth”. Could this be the same William that you mentioned in your post? Please email me at: rsmith0127@yahoo.com Thanks! Ron 🙂
January 21, 2003 at 6:10 am #9515I’m also descended from the “blue” Bollings through Hannah Bolling/Bowling (b. ca 1766, m. Solomon Osborne), daughter of Benjamin Bolling (b. 1732) and Patsy Phelps. Like Ron, I suspect a Saponi link with this family–location, time, and some of the people they lived around/married make me lean toward that. Looking into this more seems like a great idea. 🙂
January 21, 2003 at 6:10 am #10283My ggggrandmother was Louanna Bolen/Bolling b. 1774 in Va & d. 1850 in Perry County, KY. she was married to Edward (Ned) Sizemore b. 1778 in Shenandoah Valley, Va d. 11/27/1858 in Perry County, KY. Ned Sizemore’s parents were George All Sizemore & Aggy Shepherd.
Louanna Bolen/Bolling
William Bolling b. 1757 in NC m. Sarah “Sally” Fugate
(Ned & Louanna had a daughter nicknamed “White Sally”)
Benjmin Bolling b. 6/30/1734 in Wilkes Co., NC d. 1/20/1832 Flatgap, Russel Co., Va. m. 6/20/1753 Albermarle Co., Va. Patsy Felps g. 1734 Albermarle Co., Va d. 3/8/1767
John Bolling II b. 1/20/1700 Cobbs, Henrico Co., Va. d. 9/6/1757 Cobbs, Henrico Co., Va. m. Mary Elizabeth Blair b. 1/20/1708 d. 4/22/1775
John Bolling b. 1/27/1676 Kippax, Va. d. 9/6/1757 Cobbs, Henrico Co., Va. m. Marry Kennon b. 6/29/1679 Conjures Neck, Henrico, Co., Va. d. 6/27/1727 Cobbs, Henrico, Co., Va.
Robert Bolling b. 12/26/1646 All Hollows, Barking, London, England d. 7/17/1709 Kippax, Charles Co., Va. m. Jane Rolfe b. 10/10/1655 Indian City, Petersburg, Va.
Thomas Pesironemeh Rolfe m. Jane Poythress b. 1630 Jamestown, Va. d. 1/1680 Charles City, Va.
Information on Bollings obtained from one of Brent Kennedy’s melungeon books.
Roger
January 21, 2003 at 6:10 am #10284Does this make you one of the many descendants of Pocohontas?
I know I’ve heard the Bowling/Bolen is one of the names documented to Saponi. I wonder what this documentation is. I’ve often seen the Bowling name mentioned in connection with the Rolfe’s, so I wonder why it’s said the Bowlings are Saponi and not Powhatan. Anybody know?
Sizemore is a common Indian name down here. Rick Haithcock says they’re Saponi. I’m trying to think which community has those name, is it the Lumbee?
January 21, 2003 at 6:10 am #10308Ron,
Do you have a MOXLEY or HORD/HERD/HOURD/HOWARD line mixed up with your Bolling/Bowlin line? (I’ve worked on that known connection for 6 years without making any headway.)
Bill
January 21, 2003 at 6:10 am #10316Bill,
Thanks for your post. I’m sorry but I don’t have a connection in my line of Bolings. I’m sure my William Boling, b. abt. 1755 is not the same William Boling as yours. My William had a wife by the name of Elizabeth ???. Notice the name Larkin/Larken? The only other Boling lineage I’ve seen this name in is the Benjamin Boling line that moved to Indiana from NC. I believe my William Boling may have been the person mentioned with John Boling and other Boling’s as Saponi Indians but I have no proof yet. Of course, his wife, Elizabeth could have been Saponi. By the way, a male member (Boling) of this line has taken the Y-DNA test and isn’t from the Pocahantas line of Bolings . . . which I knew anyway. This is why I have a strong feeling we descend from the Saponi Bolings that migrated from VA to NC.
Descendants of William Boling
1 William Boling b: Abt. 1755 in Prob. Randolph Co., N.C. d: Bef. 1830
..+Elizabeth ??? b: Bet. 1750 – 1760
…….2 Robert Boling b: 1776
….. +Sarah ??? b: 1803
…………3 William Boling b: 1830
…………3 Robert Boling b: 1832
…………3 John Boling b: 1834
…………3 Nancy Boling b: 1835
…………3 Larkin Boling b: 1837
…………3 James Boling b: 1843 in Campbell Co., KY d: Jan. 14, 1912 in Sevier Co., TN
………….. +Rebecca K. Sheppard b: Feb. 22, 1856 in Sevier Co., TN
……………….4 Rosa Meltin Boling b: 1883
……………….4 Lillian Boling b: Jun. 1888 in Sevier Co., TN
……………….4 Lavern Boling b: Oct. 1890
……………….4 Ada Bolden Boling b: Sep. 1894 in Sevier Co., TN
……………….. +Will Huskey
………*2nd Husband of Ada Bolden Boling:
……………….. +Issac Reagan
……….*3rd Husband of Ada Bolden Boling:
……………….. +James Harvey Seaton
…………………4 Isacc McKinley Bolingn b: May 26, 1896 in Gatlinburg, Sevier Co., TN d: Dec. 09, 1929 in Sevier Co., TN
…………………. +Bertha Elzora Smelcer b: May 30, 1896 in Sevier Co., TN d: Jun. 10, 1995 in Sevier Co., TN
……..2 Larken Boling, Sr. b: Abt. 1785 in Prob. Randolph Co., NC d: Bet. 1840 – 1850
……… +Susannah G. Garner b: Abt. 1790 in NC
……………3 Emeline Boling
……………3 Shadrach Boling b: Abt. 1806 in Prob. Blount Co., TN d: 1872
……………. +Patsy Rogers d: Bef. 1850
…………………..4 Alfred Boling b: 1832
…………………..4 Elizabeth Bolingn b: 1833
…………………..4 Pherebe Boling b: 1835
…………………..4 Eliza Boling b: 1837
…………………..4 Biddy Boling b: 1842
…………………..4 Dolly Boling b: 1844
…………………..4 John W. Boling b: Nov. 1845 in Blount or Sevier Co., TN d: 1910 in Blount Co., TN
………………….. +Matilda Jane Dunlap b: Jan. 1857 d: 1910
……………. *2nd Wife of Shadrach Boling:
………………… +Celia Cagle
…………………….4 Margaret Ellen Boling b: 1851
………………3 Elizabeth (Betsy) Boling b: Abt. 1811 in TN d: Aft. Feb. 2, 1882
………………. +Josias Gamble b: Aug. 28, 1800 in Blount Co., TN d: Nov. 23, 1881 in Blount Co., TN
……………………..4 Susan Jane Gamble b: Nov. 25, 1835 d: Nov. 12, 1912
…………………….. +Caleb Franklin Davis b: Jul. 7, 1833 in Blount Co., TN d: May 09, 1881 in AR
………………………4 Larken Boling Gamble b: Dec. 3, 1839 in Either Knox Co. or Blount Co., TN d: Oct, 12, 1920 in Linn Co., OR
………………………. +Amanda E. Maxey
……………………*2nd Wife of Larken Boling Gamble:
……………………….. +Annie M. Shafe
………………………..4 Elizabeth J. Gamble b: Abt. 1842
……………………….. +James G. Cochran
………………………..4 Margaret Gamble b: Abt. 1843 in Anderson Co., TN d: Jan. 1, 1916 in Turley, Campbell Co., TN
………………………… +Francis Edward Apperson b: 1830 in VA d: 1906 in Turley, Campbell Co., TN
…………………………4 Ruth A. Gamble b: Apr. 30, 1844 in TN
………………………… +Dave Collins
…………………………4 Sarah A. Gamble b: Abt. 1848
………………………… +Dave Johnson
………………………….4 Emeline Gamble b: 1850
………………………….4 Martha (Matt) Gamble b: Jul. 1, 1852 d: Jan. 21, 1936 in Westville, Adair Co., OK
…………………………. +William F. Rhea
……………………3 Larken Boling, Jr. b: 1813
……………………3 Pleasant M. Boling b: 1816 d: in Casey, KY
……………………. +Esther Davis b: 1812
…………………………..4 Susan Boling b: 1841
…………………………..4 James Boling b: 1843
…………………………..4 Vina Boling b: 1845
…………………………..4 Harriett Boling b: 1849
……………………..3 Henry Clay Boling b: Bet. 1817 – 1819
…………………….. +Fanny ???
……………………………4 Isabella Boling b: 1840
……………………………4 Louisa Boling b: 1843
……………………………4 Pleas Boling b: 1845
……………………………4 John Boling b: 1846
……………………………4 Emeline Boling b: 1848
……………………………4 Hetty Boling b: 1849
Larkin
January 21, 2003 at 6:10 am #10317Ron,
Was doing research some time ago for a HORD/BOLLING descendant of Indian descent who was looking for a Robert Bolling, b.abt. the 1760s/70s Va., had a daughter Nancy, b.abt. 1801 Ky, who marr’d a HORD in Mason Co., Ky. Two of my 3rd grt-grandmothers were HORD sisters – hence my interest. Your names do somewhat correspond but are obviously just coincidental. Don’t yah just hate those Virginia people who moved over the mountains without leaving a forwarding address?!
Bill
January 21, 2003 at 6:10 am #10320Bill,
They either couldn’t write or didn’t have paper and pencil when they left! It’s too bad we didn’t have a connection somewhere. Maybe we’ll find one somewhere down the line.
I have a several of my lines that I haven’t been able to find any info on which leads me to believe they may be Native American lines. Names include Hicks, Munsey, Boling, Garner, Bowden, Smith, etc.
Ron
January 21, 2003 at 6:10 am #10321Bill,
By the way, I see you are in Indianapolis . . . I was born and raised near Richmond, Indiana. Mom lives just east of town but across the state line in Ohio. Her address is New Paris, Ohio. I lived in Milroy, Straughn, & Richmond before dad and mom moved us across the state line in Ohio. We lived just outside Palestine and then moved to Hollansburg, Ohio where I graduated from high school.
Ron
January 21, 2003 at 6:10 am #10322Ron,
Yeah, I know where those towns are. Haven’t really “been” there – just passed through the area.
The HICKS and BOLLING/BOWDEN (prob. same) are of course familiar in certain lines. MUNSEY is not new. Some of the MUNCIE (Muncey/Munsey) tribal people did settle early on, in east-central Indiana and the surname coincidence should not be dismissed out of hand. Muncie, Ind., was named for the Munsey Indians.
Bill
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