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I think there certainly were some Shawnee towns along the upper Potomac area when the very first settlers were infiltrating the area [Oldtown Maryland was Opessa’s Town, for example, fairly near to Buttstown area. Some of the Friend ancestors have a tradition that they have a Shawnee ancestress, married to Israel Friend, who lived along the upper Potomac when Israel was there.] . I have wondered, though, if any Siouan groups traveled with or became part of some of the Shawnee bands. The Shawnee were everywhere just about– great wanderers. I think they all lived together in PA for awhile, so maybe they did before that, too. The Shawnee were down south; in the Illinois country, I think; along the Cumberland; and a band even seated for awhile on Augustine Herman’s Manor in Cecil Co., MD before moving to the Susquehanna and then on to the Ohio Country. And they were along the upper Potomac. The Shawnee bands are pretty challenging to track.
Your “with the Mocans,” reference is very interesting. It would seem that Monacans were either there or had been taken there also – at least it seems to indicate their presense in Ohio. I posted several months ago a manuscript reference to “Blackfoot” – as a name, however – in a manuscript about an ordeal during the Rev. in Ohio country. I just recently posted the quote about the “mongrel” band of Logan’s being the true identity of the Senecas of the Sandusky. I think there were Tutelos among these groups for what ever reason. Not a whole “tribe”, perhaps people who affiliated for family reasons or other reasons.
Brenda
Ok, I made a mistake. Here is the reference.
“I have seen a couple of accounts of Willliam Crawford’s ill-fated SANDUSKY Ohio campaign. A Dr. Knight who is with him escapes, while Crawford, of course, is burned. Anyway, there is an Indian who guards Dr. Knight who is called TUTELO. My guess is that this wasn’t really his name, but that he was Tutelo. I count it as an Ohio “sighting”. Also, the quote about the Seneca of the Sandusky being remnants of Logan’s band and a mixture of Indians, few of whom were Seneca, can be found, I seem to remember, in Henry Howe’s History of Ohio….
http://thorin.adnc.com/~galliher/FAM28.HTM
“The following morning, Dr. Knight under the guard of the giant Indian named Tutelo, had his face blackened and was then taken away to be led to a Shawnee village some forty miles distant. On the way they passed the spot where Crawford had been executed, and Knight saw the bones and charred remains of his commanding officer laying in the ashes of the fire. While on the journey, Knight managed to escape from his guard by hitting him over the head with a heavy stick while the Indian was engaged in tending a fire. The blow knocked the surprised savage face down into the fire, at which he sprang up howling with pain and rushed off into the forest. Thereupon, Dr. Knight made his painful way back to Fort McIntosh subsisting on berries and nettles, a “raw tarrapin!” and two young birds. After three weeks of wandering in the wilderness, he reached the Fort with the full dreadful tiding of Crawford’s execution (94) “
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(“94) Knight and John Slover, one of the pilots of the expedition who made a spectacular escape from the Indians as they were going to burn him, wrote and published together, their memoirs and stories of the expedition, including the death of Crawford and their own sufferings and escape from death. It was published at Philadelphia in the year 1783 and is referred to by Butterfield as the “Knight and Slover… cannot read rest of footnote. “
[Wennonawoods republished this 1783 account a few years ago. I would like to check out their copy to see if it agrees with the above, or adds more. Note that 1783 is pretty fresh and I think of it as a primary account by Knight of his ordeal.]
Incidently, William Crawford was initially before the wars a trader. He, too, was in Orange Co., VA early on before he moved up to western PA. He had a daughter, Nancy Connell, with Ann Connell [see his will at the provided link]. This Nancy married Thomas MOUNTS, who was a son of Providence MOUNTS, who in turn was one of at least two sons of Joseph MOUNTS of Orange County VA, an adult c. 1732. Joseph MOUNTS was an Indian trader, son of Swede Charles MOUNTS ANDERSON who was a trader and interpreter. The descendants of Thomas and Nancy Connell Mounts tell me they wound up in Indiana finally after a period in KY. They met when their families were living in PA, area that is present day Fayette County.”
Brenda:
I am getting ready to leave for the office, so I may have read this too fast and missed something and interpreted what you said was your mistake.
I have seen Canadian sites that say the same of the Senecas of the Sandusky being a mixed group, including the remnants of Logan’s band. And I found a Canadian site that said that Logan’s father’s second wife was Tutelo. If indeed my Blackfoot family is Tutelo, some can be found living with the Senecas of the Sandusky and then relocating to Oklahoma.
I keep looking for references to the Blackfoot ID in Canada but have not had any luck yet. However, today someone posted to Lower Delmarva that there are several Kerseys in Canada who must be connected to the Delmarva peninsula. Wonder if they have the Blackfoot ID.
Techteach
It makes sense to me….
Do you know where you found the site about Logan’s father’s second wife being Tutelo? It seems to me we should have it in the new SOURCES thread that Linda started. We have discussed the Tutelo connection before in regard to Logan, but it would be nice to have it in that spot.
I will try to look some time when things settle down. It is the beginning of the semester and things are a bit nuts.
Techteach
Okey, dokey. Sounds like a plan. I have to get myself going on some other responsibillities here, too!
Well, how about this! I found the URL for the Tutelo information right away in my bookmarks : http://www.biographi.ca/EN/ShowBioPrintable.asp?BioId=35792
Here it states that the wife of Shikellemy was Tutelo.
Techteach
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