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😀 Hi All, I’ve been researching the Patawomeck Indian Tribe of Stafford Virginia~I have a blood~line that runs through several generations to them~(just not all verified and documented~some, not all, but hopefully I’ll get there. I’ll just go from me back thru the trail that leads to the 1st known blood tie to this tribe. Me~Fitzwater~Dad~Arlie Fitzwater~Grandpa William Fitzwater~his mother~Mary Bailes~her father~Robert Bailes~his father~Solomon Bailes~his mother~Mary Foster~her father George Foster~his mother Sarah Hughes~her mother Elizabeth Grigsby~her mother(1st Indian blood)~Susannah Redmond b 1703 b 1752 Stafford VA ~her parents~William Redmond b abt 1681 Safford VA d? m Elizabeth(possibly Catherine) Elkins b abt 1685 d ?. William Redmonds parents~ John (Wm) Redmond b abt 1650 d ? Stafford VA m Anne Meese b abt 1660 d ? dau of Col. Henry Meese b abt 1630 m Mary Wahanganoche b abt 1645 d ? she was the dau of Chief Wahanganoche and also sister to Keziah Arroyah. There is another tie to this tribe thru Mary Williams b? d? 1st wife of Richard Elkins b 1669 d 1746 Stafford VA~Her parents~Evan Williams and Christian Martin (don’t have b & d on them yet) ~ Christian Martin’s parents~John Martin and Christian Pettis/Pettus/Pettit/Petty who was believed to have descended from possibly Pochahantas and Kocoum (younger bro of Chief Jasapaw (her uncle) from a child born before she m John Rolfe and went to England~a girl named Kaokee who was traditionally known as the mother of Christian Pettis/Pettus/Pettit/Petty Martin ~don’t know who her father was. Funny I have a 3x Great Grandmother named Mary Martin that was m to Solomon Bailes that I can’t find parentage on~she was several generations later than these Martins b 1820 d 1868 in Nicolas Co VA.~~ HEY BEE~~So I descend from Mary Williams 1st wife of Richard Elkins instead of Elizabeth Bryant his 2nd wife~but, get this, Anne Meese after being widowed from John Redmond m Richard Bryant~she was also his 1st cousin??? OMG huh? LOL Well Bee, we still have alot of connections ya know it? BTW~the child supposedly born to Pocahantas and Kocoum~Kaokee~was traditionally said to have been raised by the Patawomeck Tribe~also, Bee, I am still communicating by email with that man, you know who, who is the historian of the Patawomeck Tribe~don’t know if he would want me to use his name, so I won’t unless I ask him, for now~~Take Care Bee and All~~Greydove:)
From: THE VIRGINIA INDIAN TRIBES: 17TH CENTURY, Leaflet 57, Apr 1933, 2nd Printing Sept 1940, Dept of Indian Art, Denver Art Museum, Denver Colorado: “POTOMAC or PATAWOMEKE. An important tribe in 1600’s centering about a town of the same name in Stafford County, Virginia on a peninsula formed by the Potomac River. Population then about 800. Today perhaps 150 mixed bloods live in the neighborhood, about 8 miles north of Fredericksburg.”
“The descendants of the Patawomeke Tribe in Stafford have always been proud of their Indian heritage and have passed down thier descent from Chief Japasaw for many generations. They have lived in the same area in and around Passapatanzy (8 miles North of Fredericksburg, VA, now on the border of Stafford and King George counties), the seat of Japasaw and his son, Wahanganoche, “King of Patomeck”, since the early 1600’s. footnote 8. “A Brief Outline of Recorded History of the Patawomeck Tribe” William L. Deyo, 2000.
Chief Japasaw was a brother to Chief Powhatan, the first Indian leader met by the Jamestown colonists. Powhatan was the father of Pocahontas. Pocahontas’s mother was from the Patawomeck Tribe, one of the tribes in the Powhatan Confederacy.
BIOGRAPHY: WHEREAS Wahanganoche … sold a parcel of land to Mr. Peter Austin, …
Date: MAR 1661/1662
Quality: 3
“…Their head and shoulders they paint oftentimes, and those red with the root pochone brayed into powder mixed with oil of the walnut or bear’s grease… Many other forms of paintings they use, but he is the most gallant who is most monstrous to behold…” William Strachey 1609-1612
“…They goe all naked save for their privityes, yet in coole weather they weare deare skins, with the hayre on loose; some have leather stockings up to their twistes & sandalls on their feet, their hayre is black generally, which they weare long on the left side, tyed up on a knott, abouth which knott the kinges and best among them have a kind of Coronett of deares hayre coloured redd, some have chaines of long linckt copper about their neckes, and some chaines of pearle, the comon sort stick long fethers in this knott…”
Gabriel Archer A Breif discription of the People. 21 May-21 June 1607
Argall also traded on the Oquicho River in the same year, when he obtained nearly 400 bushels of grain from the King of Patawomeck. The winter of 1610-1611 found Argall, still in command of the Discovery but under the orders of Lord de La Warr, “on a trading voyage up the Potomac where he is said to have found some mines of antimony and lead, and a very profitable trade with the Indians.”
A 1608 map by Captain John Smith calls the river “Patawomeck,” after the nearby Pawtomax Indians. Possible meanings of the word include “they are coming by water,” “where goods are brought in,” and “where goods are traded.”
What kind of religion did they have?
On of the Religeous men in the towne of Secota
The Powhatans believed in many gods. Every aspect of their life related to one or more of their gods. Every morning began with a bath, a prayer and an offering to the gods. Their priests, or kwiokosuk were highly respected as medicine men, priests, and tribal councilors.
In June 1608, Smith is reported to have stopped at a Patawomeck village at what is now called Indian Point, near the mouth of Potomac Creek, a tributary of the Potomac River, where he traded for corn for hungry Jamestown settlers. Farther upriver, he investigated what appeared to be an Indian antimony mine on the headwaters of Aquia Creek. Antimony is a crystalline compound used in medicines and pigments.
Wahanganoche’s father was the petty-chief, Japasaw, or more correctly, I-oppasus, who had become the King of Patawomeck by the 1620s. I do not know the wife of Wahanganoche, but I-oppasus had two wives. One whose name I do not know but who was a daughter of Powhatan and I-oppasus’ own niece or half-niece. It is possible that she was the daughter of Powhatan called Cahoke or Kaokee, traditionally the ancestor of the Peyton and Roberson families of Patawomeck blood, who was said to have been a daughter of Powhatan. His other wife was Paupauwiske who was known to have had a child, possibly Wahanganoche, as was written about by Henry Spelman. The Curtis family traditionally descends from the Patawomeck Indian girl, Ontonah, left an orphan by the battle of 1666. As the Peyton and Roberson families also descend from her, she may be the link back to the wife of I-oppassus who was the daughter of Powhatan, Kaokee (?).
she was also his 1st cousin
Well, then, we gotta be cousins. ;~)
Note that some of the info quoted may conflict with other views…other tribes traditionally hold that the mother of Pocahontas was one of their people (mostly Powhatan tribes).
Meanwhile, it sure is cool to find family!
With any luck, this is the link to the book written by tribal historian. On first look, it does not appear to relate to Saponi people, but there are many surnames contained that will be familiar to several folks on here:
http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/FH1&CISOPTR=36237&CISOSHOW=35625
beeleaf wrote: Well, then, we gotta be cousins. ;~)
Note that some of the info quoted may conflict with other views…other tribes traditionally hold that the mother of Pocahontas was one of their people (mostly Powhatan tribes).
Meanwhile, it sure is cool to find family!
You betcha Bee!! yeah, I agree with your note~sometimes people get too quick to grab any and all that they run across but, I do agree that there are many versions of alot of things~we have to weed thru alot to get what is the most accurate, I guess. Wishing for you the best~ Greydove~^~:)
Bee and All, This is a picture of my GreatGrandmother Mary Margaret (Bailes) Fitzwater~I wish I had pics of her ancestors leading back to this tribe. Greydove~^~:)Hey Greydove. I’m Bee’s cousin. One of our Foley girls married a Baliles. HIs name was Barney, b. 1865 d. 1953 and her name is Loucendia Foley, b. 1877 d.1925. They had nine children. They are buried down the road from my and Bee’s, Frank Bouldin’s family cemetery. I have a picture of the tombstone if you are interested. I have been reading your writings on the Patawomack Indians. My greatgrandmother Nannie Foley is decended from Martha Bryant, if all the research is correct. I’m sure Bee has told you all of this. Nannie’s full name is Nancy Ester Matild Kiziah Foley. Now that’s a mouth full. I can see why she shortened it to Nannie. Just wanted to say Hi and ramble a little bit. I can’t log in during the day. They will let us look at sites but not log into them at work. Cindi Bouldin Tilley
Hi Kira_Leigh It’s nice to meet you. Yes, Bee has mentioned you and that you’re cousins. Isn’t it exiting to find your family lines and especially when you get them way back? I wonder if your Baliles is related to my Bailes~kinda close and I have seen it spelled different ways. We’ll have to ck into that and yes I would be interested in your picture if it is my kin. I guess maybe our family connections makes us related too, huh? Well, take care and stay connected. Blessings~^~Greydove:)
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