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Bill, I’ve been working on my Perkins line and found The parents of Mary ann(Perkins) Holley they are Charles and Hannah (Hull) Perkins. Charles Perkins married Hannah Hull in 1821 in greenbrier county. There is a Moses Perkins in Greenbrier county that appeared in greenbrier county court to witness for james Spencer who was trying to get his pention for the war of 1812. What I have been tring to do is see if there is a connection between Charles Perkins and Moses Perkins. They both lived in Greenbrier county so I am thinking that they may be related. Maybe brothers. So far I’ve only gotten eye strain LOL. Can you check and see if you can make a connection between these two. An interesting note is that James Spencer is said to be an indian.
Thank you Bill!
Waitman,
There are 14 Perkins households in 1830 Greenbrier and 9 in 1820. Both of these census have been alphabetized, so there is no association that can be inferred. In 1810, there aren’t any Perkins in Greenbrier and the only names that match are over in Prince George Co.
In 1830, both Charles and Moses Perkins are listed as age 30 to 39. I’ll get this organized and post it to you shortly.
Bill
Thank you bill, I appriceate the time and effort that you give in helping me and I’m sure many others feel the same here. I’ll be going to the Historical Society here in Greenbrier county this week. Is there anything I can check on for you?
Bill, I found that Charles.T. Perkins died in 1876 Greenbrier co. His father is listed as T.S. Perkins. It seems like one Perkins family marries into another perkins family which gets confusing. Charles t. Perkins has children that marries into Salathiel Perkins family. I am related to Salathiel Perkins on my fathers side of the family. Salathiel Perkins was married to Mary Coulter and was the son of Thomas Perkins and Sarah Watts. I have found some information on Salatheil Perkins family but can’t find Charles T. Perkins Family other than his father listed as T.S. Perkins on his death certificate. Can you find anything on this Perkins family? Thanks.
Charles T Perkins is my 3x great grandfather..
His son George Perkins married Sarah Jane Perkins my great grandparents..
I have found no information regarding Charles T as the son of Thomas and Sarah Watts..
I have a copy of Charles.T. Perkins death record 1876 Greenbrier County. His father is listed as T.S. Perkins no mother listed only__ Perkins.. Charles T. Perkins had children that married into Salathiel Thomas Watts Perkins family two daughters Francis who married Thomas Morgan and my Sarah Jane who married George. F.
Salathiel Perkins was married to Mary Coulter and was the son of Thomas Perkins and Sarah Watts lot’s of proff on that but is Charles also the son of Thomas and Sarah Watts.. It’s possible that when the death was recorded they put the “S” in the wrong place and should be “T” for father and “S” for mother.
The second marriage for Charles T does list his parents as Thomas and Sarah Parkins..
So his mothers name was Sarah
Betty Jane Perkins
a Geroge Perkins (same as b.abt. 1822/23?), married on 23 Apr 1850 in Greenbrier Co., (W)Va, Elizabeth Dean.
1850 Greenbrier Co., (W)Va Census:
HH 223:
George Perkins, 27, m, – , farmer, $0, Va.
Elizabeth…….., 29, f, – , Va.
(at HH 225 is the family of Charles Perkins, 53, and Hannah, 50.)
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Then, consider a George Perkins m’d on 30 Sep 1857 in Greenbrier Co., (W)Va,
Sarah Jane Perkins – I’ll see if I can determine if Perkins was her maiden name or Betty may know that.
1860 Greenbrier Co., (W)Va Census, p.85:
George Perkins, 38, m, – , Farmer, $500, $137, Va.
Sarah…………, 28, f, – , Va.
Charles R…….., 9, m, – , Va.
John M……….., 7, m, – , Va.
Sarah W………, 1, f, – , Va.
I think this is the same George Perkins whose 1st wife Elizabeth may have died, afterwhich, he remarried Sarah.
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It doesn’t resolve the questions at this point, but have both of you found the Will of James Perkins, w. 20 March 1825 in usgenweb’s archives?
This Will lists the names of people who are the oldest PERKINSes in 1850 Greenbrier Co., implying that most or all PERKINS in that county in 1850, are descended from James., i.e., James (jr), Elizabeth Spencer, Thomas, Samuel, Mariah Morrison, Levin/Levi, Masten & Will.
Bill
Hi
Sarah Jane was not married before there was a mistake on the marriage it listed her as a widow when he was the widower..
Marriage license is listed as Parkins..
Marriage listed as Perkins..
George and Sarah Jane Oct 3. 1857
Groon 35 years old single born Greenbrier son of Charles T and Hannah Hull
Bride 25 years old born Greenbrier
Daughter of Salathiel and Mary ..
Sarah Jane is listed as a widow..
Elizabeth Dean died in Greenbrier County died March 1855,the first two boy’s are the children of Elizabeth..Little is know about them and Sarah Jane is listed as the mother of 6 children ( all listed below)
I did find a copy of a death record in Greenbrier County for one of the children of Elizabeth and George..Why they are not with them in 1870 is another question..
John Frazier Parkins Death Date: 22 Aug 1941 Death Place: Greenbrier, West Virginia Date of Birth Feb,6 1852 about right.. He is buried at the Alvon ME Cemetery.. George F Perkins my grandfather is also buried there..
Spouse: Nannie Williams Parkins Mother: Elizabeth Dean Father: George Parkins Sarah W who is listed as 1 years old is Samuel W. George and Sarah Jane went to Mason County after the civil war I think on the way to Ohio or In but never got there many Perkins went to Ohio and IN,they lived in Mason for 20 years and went back to Greenbrier ..listed 1900 -1910 census name spelled Parkins..
1870 Cologne Twp, Mason County
George Perkins age 38
Wife Sarah Jane 34
Son Samuel age 11 *8 Listed as Sarah W 1860 census
Joseph age 9
Amanda age 7
Averill age 6
George age 4 My grandfather
1880 Cologne Twp,Mason County
George M. age 59
Sarah Jane age 49
Samuel W. age 21
Joseph W. age 19
Amanda E. age 17
Benie this is Avreill age 14 ?
George F. age 10 ?
Martha A. age 6
Your right that most of them are descended from James,but there is a brother of James ..Elias Perkins his branch of the Perkins line went to Braxton County..And a Henry who died about 1815 and was also married to a Watts..
Vol. 1 of Deed Book, pg. 563-64, 23 July 1796
James Watts and wife Mary Watts 25 acres for 5 sh to Henry Perkins in Greenbrier County at Levels adj. Boggs, Armstrong.
James and Mary would have been his brother in law and sister…
Elias Perkins WILL
Greenbrier County Virginia
Bequeathed to his wife Mary a small track of land during her life and then to son,Eli and his heirs forever.
Also mentioned in his will,other sons
Samuel,Thomas,David,and James Perkins and daughters Polly Griffith,Nancy,Betsy Perkins and Caty Perkins (deceased)
Withess Jno. Jos. Maze and Jonathan Maze
Date Sept 15,1834 Probated June Court 1843
Note when this was transcribe they listed the wrong date..
Elias Perkins is living as of 1840 with his son,he applied for a pension.
Mary ‘Polly” Perkins was the daughter of Eli /Elias Perkins. James Parkins was the teste or witness. James Parkins was also on the bond and put up 150 bond money with Samuel Griffitts. Eli and James both clearly signed their names as Parkins.
So I would say they were brothers..
I have gone over the will of James many times and was able to piece this together..by useing the History of the Morrison Family..
William Morrison and his wife were both quite young when married. To them were born twelve children: James A., James W., Cyntha, Nancy, Andrew G., Spicer F., Rebecca, Elizabeth, Leavan J., William F., and Leroy S. They were all born in Greenbrier County, Virginia. The wife and mother died about 1826 or 1827, we have no exact record. The dates of birth of the above named children are copied from the record in the father’s old Family Bible, in his own hand writing with a quill pen–probably not so legible as John Hancock’s signature on the Declaration of Independence, but the same old round hand style. We would be pleased to give the names as well as the places of residence of those still living of our father’s first family, and their descendants, if such were possible, but it is not. They are numerous and scattered. Years of investigation would not secure such information. So we must be content by giving such limited knowledge as we can secure of a few of them.
First wife was Maria / Mariah Perkins
William Morrison continued to reside in Greenbrier County until 1829, when he again united in marriage with Mrs. Eliza Hoover Oldham of Pocahontas County, and shortly thereafter moved to Nicholas (now Braxton) County. He owned three slaves: **Jack, Joe, and Joe’s wife* which, we understand, came through his first wife***
From his disposition as we remember it, we do not believe that he would either have bought or sold a slave. Jack was given his freedom in Greenbrier, but Joe and his wife, Maria, went with the family to Nicholas. We heard our father say the country was sparsly settled, and with no colored people near, the negroes seemed lonesome, so he gave them their freedom and they returned to Greenbrier.
Now to the will of James Parkins/Perkins of Greenbrier who died in 1825
Will Book #1, Page 684 Greenbrier County, VA
“In the name of God Amen I James Parkins of the County of Greenbrier
and State of Virginia Weak in body but of perfect mind and memory thanks
be to God for his mercy. Cawling (sic) to mind the mortality of my body
and knowing it is appointer for all (sic) men once to die I do make
and ordain this my last will and Testament First I resign my soul to
God who gave it and my body to be buried in a Christian manner. At the
discretion of my Executors and as to what worldly estate it has pleased
God to bless me with I will and bequeath in the manner following that is
to say First that all my just debts and Funeral expenses be paid and
that all my estate real and personal be sold except my slaves, And to my
beloved Wife Elizabeth I will one third part of the proceeds of said
sale together with a negro man named** Jack **to her for ever. I also will
that my two slaves** Mary and Joe** shall choose whom of my Lawful heirs
they will live with and the person or persons whom the said slaves shall
choose shall have the said slaves to them and their heirs for ever and
no more of any estate and the balance of my estate I will to be equally
divided among my following Children To wit James Parkins, Elizabeth
Spencer, Thomas Parkins, Samuel Parkins, Sara Atha, **Mariah Morrison**This is Maria*
Levin Parkins and Masten Parkins and as for my son Will Parkins he has
recd of me what I believe to be his full part yet I will him one Dollar
as for my son Andw Parkins he has to the best of my knowledge received
sixty dollars worth of land known by the name of salt peter Cove [cave?]
at or about the mount of muddy creek if the Sixty Dollars does not make
him equal with the rest of the heirs I wish him made equal with such of
them as do not get the slaves I hereby appoint my son Samuel Executor
of my estate to execute this my last will and testament in Witness
whereof I hereunto set my hand and seal this 20th day of March 1825
Signed sealed and acknowledged In the presence of
us his
Andrew Morrison James X Parkins (seal)
Richard Morris Mark
Some researchers have Mariah/Maria Perkins as the daughter Thomas and Polly Williams.WRONG
I also have information on the other sons of James..
from my research the Perkins/Parkins are from Maryland and came to Greenbrier with the Rev James Watts who was married to the sister of James Perkins..
You are right that most if not all are from the James Perkins line..some spell the name Parkins others Perkins..
CLAIM OF SOLDIER FOR SERVICE PENSION dated March 9, 1878
STATE of West virginia
COUNTY of Greenbrier
On this date and in this county , the aforesaid, JAMES SPENCER, age 94 years
and resident of Trout Valley in the county of Greenbrier, WVa.who being duly sworn
according to law, declared that he is the identical James Spencer who served
under the name James Spencer as a soldier in the company command of Captain S. Taylor in
the regiment of Virginia, commanded by Col. Jas Concade in the war of 1812; that
he emlisted at Lewisburg,Greenbrier Co. WV on or about September 1, 1812 and
served a term of 6 months and continued in actual service of said for the term of 6
months. He was hereby discharged at Lewisburg, Greenbrier Co. on April 1 of 1813. That since the date of his discharge he has resided in WV, Ohio, and Illonis.
Age about 26 when enlisted with birthplace being Greenbrier Co.Va.
The following is his description at the time of his enlistment, Via :Indian,
dark complextion, black hair,black eyes,5 feet 8 inches high..
This is very interesting>>> Could it be Indian Scout and the word was left out..this information is from a copy.
He makes this delaration for the purpose of obtaining the pension to which he
may be entitled under section 4736 to 4740, inclusive, Revised Statues, and the act
of March 9, 1878, and hereby appoints with full powers of substitutions and revocation AW
Fitzgarald of Wash. DC, his lawful attorney, to prosecute his claim.
He also declares that he has herefore made NO applacation before for Bounty
Land or Pension. He gives his residence is now Nicholas Co. WV in the town of Trout.
signature_________X___________
ATTEST: Washington Spencer ( s/o James)
Jacob Taylor
Also personally appeared Moses Perkins age 82 years residing in
Greenbrier Co. and Solomon Taylorage 79 years residing in Nicholas Co. WV,
persons I certify to be respectable and entitled to credit , and who being
by me duly sworn, say that they have known James Spencer for 75 years and 55
years respectively;that they were present and saw him sign his name to foregoing
declaration; that they have every reason to believe, from the appearance of said
claimant and aquaintance with him, that he is the idenical person he represents
himself to be;and the futher say that they are able to identify him as
being the identical person who rendered the service alledged to in this
applacation.
SIGNED: William W. Taylor
Moses Perkins *******
James Spencer X
Solomon Taylor X
***I have his step mother as Elizabeth Perkins Spencer second wife of Thomas Spencer..
Thomas and Elizabeth Spencer did leave Greenbrier for Gallia Ohio and after the death of her husband she and some of the family did go to Illonis where she died..
There is an Elizabeth Perkins married to a Spencer..information from the will of James..
Moses listed his fathers place of birth as Maryland 1880 census..Moses Perkins is the only Greenbrier Perkins that is listed in the census from 1820-1880..
But there is no death record for him listed in the Greenbrier County Death Records 1853-1900.
Now how does he connect to the other Greenbrier Perkins.*****
He does state his father was born in Maryland *
United Methodist Church, located at Fort Spring, Greenbrier County, WV:
‘Mount Vernon Church History’
‘In the “Story of my Life” written by Bishop William Taylor of Africa, he gives the following account of being at the home of Samuel Perkins in 1845: “Our next series of special services were held at the house of old Father Perkins, who was a plain, blunt, but good man of the old school, a local preacher in our church. In summer heat he would take off his coat and preach in his shirt sleeves.”
He went on to say that at the Perkins appointment, a few miles from Second Creek, he found Father Perkins, wife, grown-up daughters and a few other members.
This information from Bishop Taylor’s book shows that services were held in the community in 1845 and perhaps several years before that. Rev. Samuel Perkins held services in his log house, and if it was too small for the congregation, they went to the log barn.
The deed to the present church yard was made November 19, 1846 (from deed).
A log church was built where the present building now stands. The log church was burned during the Civil War, the exact date not known.
Sometime before 1867 a new frame church building was erected that stood until 1890. It was torn down to build the present one, which was erected on the same foundation as the old one, but is eight feet longer at the entrance. It was dedicated in August, 1890.
Services were held on the rocks where the tabernacle now stands, when the weather permitted, while the church was being built.
Much of the material and work was donated by the people of the community but $ 250 was borrowed from Church Extension.
The frame timber was donated by Rebecca Ruth Hedrick, hauled to the saw mill by her brother, Frederick Hedrick, and sawed by G.H. Hedrick on what was the Roy Hedrick farm. From the mill it was hauled to the Hedrick and Wilson ferry and tied into bundles and held by a rope or chain and ferried across the Greenbrier River by J.H. and M.C. Hedrick and others. From there, it was hauled to Mt. Vernon Church yard. The flooring was given by Jehu Hedrick and sawed on his farm. The lumber was kiln dried, dressed and tongue grooved on the church grounds. The carpenters were boarded in the community. The benches were made from popular trees bought from Wellington Johnson in what was known as “Johnson’s Big Woods”. The shingles were handmade by Kenny Aldridge and timber given by John Lewis. G.W. Shepherd and C.C. Claypool were very prominent in this work.
The carpenter was a Mr. Harless from Pott’s Creek. He had a helper.
Rev. Samuel Perkins was the first one buried in the upper cemetery on January 19, 1854.
Jehu Hedrick was the first adult buried in the lower cemetery on May 13, 1904.’
**Rev. Samuel Perkins was born 1778 in Greenbrier County, [W]VA. He became the first minister for Mount Vernon United Methodist Church,and was the first person buried in it’s cemetery. He was married three times [widowed twice]. his first wife was Margaret Smith [Married 1809 – died 1810 in childbirth]. Second wife was Rebekkah HANLEY, married 1811, and died before 1812 [also believed to have died in childbirth]. His third wife was Elizabeth TUCKWILLER [married 1812]. Elizabeth was born 1779 in Greenbrier County, and died 1867. She and Samuel had at least 6 children.
Son of James …
You can also check..
http://books.google.com/books?id=7WrmY3z0p1sC&pg=RA3-PA187&l
pg=RA3-PA187&dq=mrs+mary+watts+mother+of+the+rev+james+watts
+went+to+glory+in+her+%22eighty+fifth%22+year&source=web&ots
=FeMUFiLDtG&sig=f3pyka_zLh1t2i07vziQ4jjykDk
The 1786 Greenbrier County, (West) Virginia
Personal Property Tax List Index
Eli Pirkins Henry Pirkins James Pirkins Name spelled wrong,this is the only three listed..
I can not bring up the 1810 census pages for Greenbrier County ..
Only James Watts listed ..husband of Mary Perkins
Waitman
If it’s possible can you please check for a pension record of Elias Perkins/Parkins from Greenbrier..he was living in Greenbrier as of 1840,also Moses Perkins he connect some way to our Perkins line.
From what child of Charles T do you descend from.I have some information regarding some of the children of Charles T and Hannah Hull
Betty
Betty,
We have pension records at the Greenbrier co. Historical Society where I am a member. I’ll check for you. It seems like I remember reading something about Moses. I don”t believe he was from Greenbrier co. originaly. I’ll also check on Elias Perkins. I descend from Mary Ann Perkins daughter of Charles T. Perkins. I also descend from Salathiel Perkins on another line.
Waitman
Here is what I found at the Courthouse.
Death records book 1-A, page 139, line 37.
George Parkins Died Dec. 19, 1902. Cause of death: Paralysis. Age: 80 years
5 months. Parents: Charles & Mary Parkins. Spouse: Sarah J. Parkins.
Sarah J. Perkins Died Sept 26, 1911. At Mapledale. Cause of Death: old age.
Age: 78 years, 5 months, and 26 days.
1850 census for greenbrier co.
Moses Perkins 52
Nancy Perkins 57
Martha 24
Elizabeth 20
Jesse 17
Mary 14
Anna 9
Marriage record Greenbrier co.
Elias Perkins married Mary Nichols 1833.
There was another Moses Perkins in a family collection that has a Moses Perkins who died 1832 who’s father was Benjamin Perkins and mother Rose Perkins.
I’ll try and get more information for you soon.
Waitman
George Parkins Died Dec. 19, 1902. Cause of death: Paralysis. Age: 80 years
5 months. Parents: Charles & Mary Parkins. Spouse: Sarah J. Parkins.
This is my great grandfather..mothers name is listed wrong unless Mary was her middle name..his marriage to Sarah Jane listed Hannah Hull as his mother..
Sarah J. Perkins Died Sept 26, 1911. At Mapledale. Cause of Death: old age.
Age: 78 years, 5 months, and 26 days.
My great grandmother..
Is there a buriel place listed any where for them
1850 census for greenbrier co.
Moses Perkins 52*** This is the Moses who witnessed for Jamaes Spencer and is living as of the 1880 census he listed his fathers place of birth as Maryland..no death record found..
Nancy Perkins 57
Martha 24
Elizabeth 20
Jesse 17 servied in the Union Army,the only Union one I have found .All othere were in Edgers Div. out of White Sulphur Springs..
Mary 14
Anna 9
Marriage record Greenbrier co.
Elias Perkins married Mary Nichols 1833.He is the father of Thomas Perkins who married Polly Williams,they are Braxton Perkins
There was another Moses Perkins in a family collection that has a Moses Perkins who died 1832 who’s father was Benjamin Perkins and mother Rose Perkins.
This Moses son of Benjamin I know nothing about..this is the first time I’ve seen the name Benjamin…
Again,thank you for checking for George abd Sarah Jane..
I’ll try and get more information for you soon.
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