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January 15, 2002 at 6:27 am #515
hoping to start a good discussion and resources collection for sources for local botanicals, trips to gather materials, and vehicles for trade of all above.
to start –
im looking for a good source for “pucoon”.
ill get the latin later. anybody know what it is or knows a good patch for this spring?
It grows about 3 ft high, cone flower like a daisy – root is POTENT. used for red dye, alot on bodies, and hair, leather.
Also –
ilex vomitoria (yaupon holly)
looking for young shoots, and small plants to transplant. old source for “black drink” and colonial “mate'” coffee. northern span is va beach.
One more –
Im plnting one of my fields in indian corn again this year. this is an old strain. its been passed down for at least four generations of Carolina Saponis (no kidding). i plan to use the stalk for thatch / mat making – but anyone want some seed from this years crop?
industrious folk could make meal if they wanted – but thats WORK.
Although i do have a good supply for next years white acorn gathering? Dozen mature whiteoaks waiting for gathering? makes a good but “bran” like flour after processing. good with berries for muffins or pone.
January 15, 2002 at 6:27 am #6669For some good resource pictures go to http://www.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/fa01/fa01027.jpg
Another good one is http://www.ibiblio.org/unc-biology/herbarium/gallery/conopholis.html
January 15, 2002 at 6:27 am #6670Puccoon – any of several North American plants of the genus Lithospermum yielding a red or yellow dye (esp. L. canescens and L. caroliniense)having orange flowers.
Also known as BloodRoot, redroot, Red Indian Paint, Tetterwort; called Sanguinaria canadensis Papaveraceae
This we mixed with Walnut Oil or Bear grease.
Sweet Grass (Hierochloe odorata) this can be purchased in your area if your in North Carolina. I have a contact there that sales clumps of it. I’ll have to dig for the address and name of the nursury. I mainly put that in because it took some digging to find out more about Sweet Grass since there are so many names it goes by. Many Nursuries do not carry it nor do they order it, at least in my area here in Texas.
January 15, 2002 at 6:27 am #6671Pawpaw wood was used to start fires so we know they had a good relationship with the Pawpaw.
January 15, 2002 at 6:27 am #6672Hello, If anyone is looking for “the best” sweetgrass I can gather it here, I can trade it to anyone who wants it. I’m not kidding I have been told that many people have not seen this quality in over 20 years, you’ll know what’s inside the package before you open it.Buck check into the “Museum of the Fur Trades” garden, they are in nebraska I think!?. Ladies my Mother used to use a type of medicine for her blood that I can share with you, I’m sure that it grows down there, if I get there I’ll share it with you all, BTA , Tom.
January 15, 2002 at 6:27 am #6673ill check out the museum of fur trade, they may have some stuff to peak at!
sweatgrass trade would be good –
i dont use it as much as others, but still a fresh batch is nice to have. had some from alberta last. we gather sage and sweatgrass each august when we’re out west.
Cotton –
im familiar with a variety of the “blood” plants. this one is known as redroot and does produce a red dye. however, it is hard to find. blooms only last for a few weeks in june and then blends back into the greens of the woods. i dont know the plant well enough to id it without both flower and leaf. sooo – i only find small amounts in june. any one know where there is a good patch for transplant?
Anyone interested in indigenous tobacco? i grow a bit of rustica each year.
it is very strong stuff, but is from our area.
i have seed and good growing tips…
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January 15, 2002 at 6:27 am #6674Greetings,
Once again I’m floored at what a
wealth of knowledge pertaining to our culture
and heritage so many folks on this forum have,but most of all I’m moved at how generous y’all are in sharing what you know.
For someone like me who is hungry/eager to
learn the ways of my ancestors this is truly
a blessing.I’m just sorry I don’t have half
as much to offer.
Maybe those of you who have
sweetgrasss,tabacco etc, can bring a bit of it in febuary.I’d be willing to pay for it
since I do not have anything to trade.
In Blood
Nicole
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January 15, 2002 at 6:27 am #6675Hello All, Re; the sweetgrass that I offer, if I get down there this summer I can bring it with me, but if not I will send via snail mail; I am out currently and will have to gather it prior to my leaving here in the summer.Now is the time to ask for it so that I can put you on a list,email me and send your address,for trade if I am there even a hand shake is good enough! Best to All, Tom.
January 15, 2002 at 6:27 am #6676tom –
interested in trading materials via snail mail. your email is not listed on your profile. send some data to my email (little icon with mail moving next to posting date and time) best -buck
January 15, 2002 at 6:27 am #6677Buck, I have sent my snail mail adress to you again if you do not get it, email me from your end and I’ll send it to you. Tom
January 15, 2002 at 6:27 am #6678Buck, I have sent my snail mail adress to you again if you do not get it, email me from your end and I’ll send it to you. Tom
January 15, 2002 at 6:27 am #6679Tom my e-mail address is saponi12@earthlink.net
please e-mail me and so I can send you my address. I would love to buy some sweetgrass from you. Bila huk oho! (CottonTop)
January 15, 2002 at 6:27 am #6680itconani I would also be interested in your sweetgrass as well. edstp62 I would love to get some native tobacco seed from you. If both of you could e-mail me at saponi12@earthlink.net
i will send you my address. once i get yours then i can send you some money for those things. Bila huk oho! (Cotton Top)
January 15, 2002 at 6:27 am #6681Mecou, in regard to animals that are in our ancestors area of influence I believe the Red Wolf to have been the wolf they would have known well. The crane holds a special place as well as the Red Tailed Hawk, the Owl, the Crow/Blackbird/Raven, the black bear, the forest buffalo, turtles, ratcoons, possums, frogs,and snakes.
January 15, 2002 at 6:27 am #6682Here is a list of books that are good resources for plants and animals.
The Southeastern Indians by Charles Hudson (pgs.272-289) pg.(300)
The Siouan Tribes of the East by James Mooney
pg.(29) pg.(31-34)
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