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August 16, 2008 at 7:42 pm #3659
I am looking for the family of MARY (ELIZABETH) COLLINS who married Reverend ELNATHAN DAVIS in Orange Co NC about 1758-59. They are my 6th Grt Grandparents. He was a Seventh Day ‘Baptist‘ Church Minister associated with Reverend Shubal Stearns. Elanthan and Mary’s children were: Elnathan Jr., Martha, Rebecca, Hannah Elizabeth, Rutha, Benjamin(my 4th Gtr Grandfather), James, and Jonathan. All of their children are believed to have been born in the Orange/Chatham Co. N.C. area.
Here is some information on my Davis Family:
Elnathan DAVIS b.1735 in Baltimore Co., MD had a brother named Benjamin DAVIS Jr. b.1731 in Baltimore Co., MD, sons of Benjamin DAVIS Sr. b.1712 Concord, MD in between the Nanticoke and Choptank Rivers. This was in the same location that the Nanticoke tribe occupied. Benjamin Sr’s wife is Unknown. They were believed to have been married about 1730 in Maryland. Benjamin Sr’s parents were James Davis and Ann(Last name unknown). Benjamin Sr. received a land grant in Augusta County VA in 1745 and moved there along with his family. Elanthan and Benjamin Jr. were reared on the James River in Old Augusta County, VA in the area of todays Botetourt Co., VA. My Davis family is in the book called Kegley’s Virginia Frontier. They were at Fort Vause during the French and Indian war when it was attacked by the Shawnee. Benjamin Davis Sr. was captured by the Shawnee and taking Prisoner. He escaped from them and made his way into Carolina to safety. In 1759 Benjamin DAVIS, Sr died in Fincastle Plantation, Botetourt County VA. He had previously given both his sons a Power of Attorney to sell his land in Augusta Co VA, so he must have been ill or injured on the way South to NC. Elnathan and Benjamin DAVIS, Jr were in Orange Co NC in June 1759. This is were it is believed that he met Mary Collins and married her. My davis family lived close to the Collins, Brewers and Daniels, all names related to the Saponi.
If anyone has any information about Mary Elizabeth COLLINS and her family, we, their descendants (and there are many of us) would be very grateful.
Thanks in advance… Whitehawk
August 16, 2008 at 7:42 pm #32061There is a Mary Collins from Maryland…have to check the dates.
When Samuel Collins wrote his will in 1822, he identified his wife Mary Ann and his children: Henry, William, Mary, Jane, and Eleanor. Samuel willed two tracts of land, Thomas’s Adventure and Thomas’s Maggott, to his two sons. Samuel Collins had purchased interests in Thomas’s Adventure and Thomas’s Maggott in 1800, 1801, 1802 and 1805. Samuel Collins was described as being “of Charles County” in the five different transactions relating to those tracts of land.
Now I don’t know the full story…but Samuel Collins returned to Maryland at some point around the start of the 1800’s or end of the 1700’s?
two of Jane Collins’ siblings–Eleanor (Nelly) Collins and Henry Collins–were also enumerated on the 1850 Charles County census as having been born in Maryland before 1794, which is when the Battle of Fallen Timbers occurred. According to the 1850 Charles County census, Eleanor (Nelly) Collins was born circa 1791 and Henry Collins was born circa 1793.
the exact year of Jane Collins’ birth is unknown, but based on her enumerations in the 1850 and 1860 Charles County censuses, Jane was born between 1802 and 1805.
Philip Sheridan Proctor aka Chief Turkey Tayac of the Piscataway tribe was born in August 1895 in the small community of Faulkner in Charles County, Maryland. In all of the Charles County records, Philip’s parents, Louis Proctor and Jennie (Virginia) Ann Collins, and their children were always described Mullatto.
On the 1800 Charles County census, there were three Samuel Collins enumerated as free people of color, with two, nine, and ten people in their households, respectively. Since Philip’s ancestor Samuel Collins indicated in his will that his property bordered Henry S. Yates, this proximity on the census is strong circumstantial evidence that Samuel Collins, Jr. was the enumeration of Philip’s ancestor.
Thats not my own personal research…but maybe it might help you.
Remember Maryland borders Virginia….The manahoacs and Piscataway was not that far from each other really. You mentioned the Shawnee…you should also know that the Shawnee chief Tecumseh’s sister married the Collins from Virginia. You should also remember that our orange county VA Collins was the Manahoac which agreed to become Saponi thru the treaty of Fort Christianna (which really was not that big of a deal since the Saponi would marry into the Stegaraki and Ontponea tribes already and vice versa). Our Orange county Va collins was Stegaraki or Ontponea….and possibly also Shackaconia or Manahoac proper. Before becoming known as Saponi. And before all of this there is good reason to believe we was part of the insanely massive Cahokia nation in Missouri and Chicago area (The Iroqious was also part of the Cahokia nation and this is probally where the Siouan and Irqoious wars begand at…and where the Dakota and Monacan split apart at).
More Added info…you mentioned the Rev…..Susanna Collins of Granville NC….Born 1738….her son became Rev Drury Dobbins…very famous person in NC and SC.
August 16, 2008 at 7:42 pm #32092Thanks for responding GA-NC Collins. My self and some other family members are researching the Davis/Collins line and we do not think that our Mary Collins was born in Maryland as it has been posted on the web in many places. She was born around 1735 and the Samuel Collins listed in the text that you sent me, I believe would have been born after she was or about the same time. If they are connected, then it might be a possibility that they are siblings. But as you know records back then were not very good. My 6th Grt Grandfather Elanthan married her in 1758-59 in Orange County, N.C. so we feel like she is connected to the Collin Families in the Old Orange and Granville Co N.C. areas. If you find anymore info, please forward it on. Thank You Again.
August 16, 2008 at 7:42 pm #32095Hey GA-NC Collins, Do you have any information on these Collins Families in Orange Co., N.C. such as Thomas, Samuel, and William Collins’ wife’s and children’s name including daughters. I think that my Mary E. Collins is connected to one of these families most likely. We recently found out more names of my 6th Grt Grandfather Elanthan Davis and Mary Elizabeth Collins’ children and they had a son named Thomas Davis. We think now that he may have been named after the Thomas Collins b.1708. The Collins Families are:
COLLINS FAMILY
The Collins and Bunch families were taxable “Molatas” in Orange County, North Carolina, in 1755 [T&C, box 1]. They were also associated with the Gibson family. Lucrecy Collins witnessed the 1775 Orange County, North Carolina will of George Gibson [WB A:195]. They probably came to Orange County from Louisa County, Virginia. George Gibson, Thomas Gibson, William Hall, Thomas Collins, Samuel Collins, William Collins, William Donathan, Benjamin Branham, and Samuel Bunch were living in Louisa County on 28 May 1745 when they were presented by the court for failing to list a tithable (probably their wives) [Orders 1742-8, 152, 157, 172]. Some members of the family moved to Wilkes County with the Gibsons and like the Gibsons, they were counted there as white in 1790. This part of Wilkes County became Ashe County in 1799, and both families were counted there as “other free” in 1800.
Mixed-race members of the Collins family were
i. Catherine, born say 1705, a “free mulatto woman” of North Farnham Parish presented by the Richmond County, Virginia court in November 1725 for having an illegitimate child [Orders 1721-32, 248, 267].
2 ii. Thomas, born say 1708.
2. Thomas1 Collins, born say 1708, was presented by the Louisa County court on 28 May 1745 for failing to list a tithable who was probably his wife and on 26 November 1745 he was presented for profane swearing [Orders 1742-8, 152, 157, 172, 174, 179]. He was a taxable in the 1750 Granville County list of John Wade [CR 44.701.23]. This part of Granville County became Orange County in 1752, and Thomas was a “Molata” taxable there on 3 “Black” tithes in 1755 [T&C, box 1, p.19]. He owned land on Flat River adjoining George Gibson and Moses Ridley [Orange County Loose Papers, vol. V, no. 131; vol.VI, no. 579]. He may have been the father of
3 i. George1, born about 1728.
ii. Thomas2, Jr., born say 1734, an Orange County taxable listed nearby Thomas Collins in 1755 [T&C, box 1, p.19]. He may have been the Thomas Collins, Sr., who was head of a white Moore County household of one male over 16, two females, and one slave in 1790 [NC:44], and there was a Thomas Collins, Jr., head of a white Moore County household of two males under 16, three over 16, and four females in 1790 [NC:43]. He was head of an Ashe County household of 7 “other free” in 1800 [NC:74].
iii. John, born say 1736, a “Molata” taxable in Orange County, taxed on one Black tithe in 1755 [T&C, box 1, p.15].
4. Samuel Collins, born say 1724, was presented by the Louisa County court on 28 May 1745 for failing to list a tithable who was probably his wife. On 25 November 1746 Richard Vernon sued him for 16 pounds, 9 shillings and fourteen pounds of deer skins, and on 24 February 1746/7 he and William Collins were presented for fishing and hunting on the Sabbath [Orders 1742-8, 152, 157, 172, 215, 227, 233]. He was a “Molata” taxable in Orange County on 2 Black tithes in 1755 [T&C, box 1, p.19]. He may have been the Samuel Collins who was head of a Wilkes County household of one male 21-60 and one female in the 1787 state census.
Any info you may have, I would be very greatful. Thanks.
August 16, 2008 at 7:42 pm #32101Just wondered if you had searched all the threads here for your information…Brenda Collins Dillon posted quite a bit on the Collins family.
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