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From NC Genweb…… Jones Co estate index
MEADE, Rachel – Pg 221 – mother Hannah Mead; sister Barbara Meade; sister
Hannah Collins; nephew Ben Collins; nephew Rachel West; nephew Charity Mead;
nephew Isaac Collins; sister Tryphena West; nephew Nancy Meade; nephew Polly
Collins; nephew Barbara Meade; sisters Barbara Meade and Hannah Collins; Exrs:
John Collins, nephew Ben Collins, Barbara Meade; Wts: Abraham Dudley Sr.,
??? Dudley
MEAD, Thomas – Pg 117 – wife Hannah; son Thomas; daughter Tryphena West;
daughter Hannah Collins; daughter Barbara Mead; daughter Rachel Meade; Exrs:
son Thomas Mead, neighbor James Watson; Wts: William Hachell, A. Dudley, Fanny
Dudley.
MEADOWS/MEADOR, Abraham – Pg 162 – wife Fanny/Famy; my son; my children; my
three sons; daughter Nancy Meadors; daughter Sarah; son John; Exrs:
Bartholomew Meadors, Fany Meadors; Wts: Buck Barry, John Taylor
MEADORS, Velater – Pg 299 – Liaz Meadors; Velator Meadors (a woman); her five
children now living: Fereby, Patty, Fanny, Rebeccah, and Jason Meadors
Brenda…..notice your Collins with Meades? Did the Meades(Meadows) move to Granville/Person/Little River with Old Thomas’s group?
Linda……. can you move or copy this and my previous post to the Meadows thread to keep it together?
Hello, I am new here. can anyone tell me what is Plunkett’s list and letter and where can i read it at?
I came across this website when doing some research for my husband’s grandmother, who has Collins in her family, and I was suprised that there was a indian group called the Blackfoot’s, I thought my mother was making it up when i was growing up, telling me about my father’s family. I figured she had to be making it up, cause why/how could the Souix and the Blackfoot out west be in Virginia and North Carolina? Makes sense now, also explains little things from my childhood. I just started researching my family tree, I knew we were part indian from my mother’s side of the family, but her family was from Canada, my parents divorced when I was a kid, and whenever I asked questions about my father’s side of the family, my mother would try to tell me a little, and my grandmother would step in and say the father’s side didn’t matter, that it was the mothers’ that you trace your descent from, so i left it alone till now. I have started asking my mother again about my father’s side of the family, and she said that he was part blackfoot souix, and for the reason stated above, i thought she was making that up, I will have to apologize now. 🙂 Would anyone know the significance/meaning? of blowing tobacco smoke on children? Wondering because, when I was little, before my parents divorced, my father had brought my brothers and sister, and i to meet his grandfather, and when we were introduced to him one at a time, he blew smoke on us and said something, I can’t remember now, it was so long ago. The only thing else that comes to mind right now, is that my mother said he wasn’t a christian until just before he died, then his third wife talked him into it, and that he was adopted by his grandparents as his father died and his mother was taken away(not sure what that means as he was born abt 1897, I would think that there wasn’t anymore indians to be taken anywhere by then?).
Surnames that I know of so far on that side of the family is: Elmore, Cook, Spencer, Gibson, Harris, Fields, Burdett, and Craft.
from the areas of Fayette, West Virginia, Boteourt County, Craig County, Giles County, Roane County Virginia and Orange County, North Carolina off the top of my head.
My husband descends from Elmores also, from Haw’s River, Almanance County, North Carolina, that are related to my Elmore’s in Orange County, North Carolina too.
Very interesting. The Haw River is short for Sissipaha River, which if you saw my article at http://www.saponitown.com/blackfoot.htm I believe comes from the Piedmont Siouan words “ici asepa hiye” or blackened foot. Tobacco smoke is used in prayer and ceremony throughout Indian cultures. It’s routine to bless or cleanse something with tobacco smoke.
Your maternal grandmother sounds pretty Indian, too. Most woodland tribes were matrilineal meaning you would get your clan and inherit your status from your mother’s side, not your fathers. Your father would come live with your mother’s family when he married your mom. A man might be elected chief if his mother came from one of the family’s who were in line for that office.
Where was this grandfather who blew smoke living? What was his name? The Harris and the Gibson names are common among families with VA Siouan Blackfoot descent. Burdett isn’t familiar, but Burnett is.
My great grandfather’s adopted father came to Florida in the 1920’s and my great grandfather moved to Florida abt 1950’s from fayette county, west virginia. My father did come to live with my mother’s parents after they were married, I never thought about it being a indian tradition or anything, just thought it was grandmother being the boss. My grandmother on my mother’s side pretty much ruled the whole family. She was Indian and French Canadian, I think she was divided on what she wanted to be known as, on the one hand, she had very definite ideas and customs that to me were indian, like how to cure you if you were sick or if you had a bad dream or something or how you had a secret name that you never tell anyone, wierd little things like that, and she would talk about her mother, and mother’s mother’s and tell stories, and things, on the other hand, if anyone outside the family asked her a question about what she was, the answer would be that she was white, period. She used to tell me stories about how when she was young her father wouldn’t allow her and her sisters to play with her cousins as they were too dark, and he didn’t want anyone to get any ideas that his family was anything but white, or how they didn’t stay out in the sun too long for fear of their skin getting too dark. And those sorts of things, she carried with her and passed on to her children and grandchildren. It seems wierd to me, that nowadays in these times it is popular to have indian blood in your family, and my grandmother even in the 1980’s was still afraid of anyone knowing that she had any at all. Well, anyway, that is enough rambling, thanks for answering my question, about the smoke, my grandmother never used smoke, her husband, my grandfather one thing he never budged on was that there was to be no tobacco in his house(maybe, because he was white, maybe he just didn’t like tobacco, not sure), and my great grandfather on my father’s side sure did look white to me, so I was wondering if it meant something or not. Thanks again. Oh, I hope, I haven’t offended anyone by saying all this stuff, my grandmother or her father wasn’t racist or anything, and I am certainly not, I think they were just afraid.
Emily,
Click on the “search” button on the upper right, and search on “plecker”. Scroll down to click on the “submit” button or whatever that’s labeled, then that list of surnames by county will come up in one of those posts.
Bill
CoheeLady wrote: To Saponi1 & Linda,
First I want to thank Saponi for posting the Letter & “Hit List” of Walter Ashby Plecker, whom was our first Registrar of Vital Statistics, in Virginia. As you can well see this was his way to try to rid our state of the Indian population. My families surname is listed twice, the name is CASH. We are not African American, but are European & Indian. Plecker would say Mixed. My family was listed in the census as white, but they were also Indian. Our family has gone through hell, due to Plecker. I am active in politics, as I am the only citizen that stood up & spoke in favor of a resolution last year at the House Rules Committee, as a vote was up regarding a “Regret for Virginia’s role in Eugenics”. This movement was headed by Plecker in Va., & it wasn’t just here, it spread across the country. If someone reads this & has no clue as to what I’m speaking of, to put it simply, it was a movement to cleanse the population of those that were not Nordic, or “pure white”. No such thing as pure white, how stupid these men were!Either by way of sterilization or paper genocide. Plecker’s victims are known & will never be forgotten, as long as their descendant’s don’t forget. Last year the formal “regret” from our state passed, it’s the first in the country, I hope other states will follow suit.
Sincerely,
CoheeLady
[This message has been edited by CoheeLady (edited 07-10-2002).]
I know that Pleckerism was alive and well, long before Plecker himself came on the scene. Has anyone seen where in the state of VA families are listed in any other designation than B or W ( I have been searching the mid to late 1800’s)? This seems to be all I come across.
Shirley
Has anyone seen where in the state of VA families are listed in any other designation than B or W ( I have been searching the mid to late 1800’s)?
Shirley, off the top of my head comes Patrick and Pittsylvania Counties. Probably would include Henry County, since they’re part of the same lump.
Amherst and King William Counties, etc. (where there are reservations or known “settlements”).
Looking for any family in particular?
Have Richard’s “Indian census” book here. Not indexed, so would be good to know which county(s) to flip to. Just opened up to Taylor County (1850) and you can add that and Carroll Co. In case you have not yet seen this book, most of it is 1850, but there’s more for a few counties. This is VA and NC.
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