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Wondering if anybodys come across the surname Raines, I don’t have alot of info about them, my moms line, I have account of them in Fla, thanks Blessing. All my Relations
Welcome to the forum, Benjamin, make yourself at home.
There are several people here with RAINES lines.
What additional information do you have on your RAINES?
Bill
With the additional information you supplied, here are your Grandmother Lula Raines’ parents.
from:
1930 Broward Co., Fl Fed.Census; ED4 Pompano, Pct. 2; 10 April; Pg 60A, at 161, 173 (is the order they appear on the census):
RAINES, E. Hill; Messenger; m, W, 59, m24, SC, SC, SC.
…………, Georgia; wife; f, W, 53, m18, Fl, Ga, Fl
…………, Guy; son, 14, Fl.
…………, Nellie; dau, 11, Fl.
E. Hill Raines’ occupation was a Messenger for the Postal Telegraph, 59 yrs old, was married at age 24, was born in South Carolina, as were his father and mother.
Georgia Raines was 53 yrs old, was married at age 18, was born in Florida and her father was born in Georgia and mother in Florida. “Wife, son & dau” reflect their relationship to the head of household.
According to a Raines researcher who filed World Family Tree Volume 1, tree 4078:
Euell Hill Raines married Georgia MILLER on 16 Jan 1896 in Live Oak, Suwannee Co., Fl.
E. Hill was born 12 May 1871 Darlington Co., SC; d. 3 Feb 1938 Ft. Lauderdale, Broward Co., Fl.
Georgia Miller was b. 17 Jan 1877 Suwanee Co., Fl; d. 19 Jan 1935 Pompano, Broward Co., Fl and is buried in the Pompano Cemetery there.
Georgia’s parents were Morgan Miller and Julia C. JOHNS – more on them later.
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1920 Suwannee Co., Fl; ED 150 Pine Grove, Pct 3; 20 Jan; pg. 135A, at 36, 36:
RAINES, Euel H.; farmer, m, W, 48, SC, NC, SC.
……….., Georgia; wife, f, W, 44, Fl, SC, Fl.
……….., Annie; dau, 16, Fl.
……….., LULA; dau, 15, Fl.*******
……….., Lillie; dau, 12, Fl.
……….., Ruby; dau, 11, Fl.
……….., Georgia; dau, 7, Fl.
……….., James Guy; son, 4, Fl.
……….., Nellie; dau, 10 months, Fl.
The birth state of Georgia’s father is probably Ga., not SC.
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1910 Suwannee Co., Fl; ED149 Pine Grove; 3 May; pg.69A, at 323, 323:
RAINS, Euel H.; farmer, m, W, 39, m1, 14; SC, SC, SC.
………, Georgia; wife, f, W, 33, m1, 14, 7/5; Fl, Fl, Ga.
………, Bertha M.; dau, 12, Fl.
………, Annie G.; dau, 6, Fl.
………, LULA V.; dau, 5, Fl.*******
………, Lillie; dau, 3, Fl.
………, Ruby; dau, 1, Fl.
Euel and Georgia have been married once (“m1”), have been married for 14 yrs. Georgia has had 7 children and 5 are still living (“7/5”). Euel’s father’s birth state is listed incorrectly.
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1900 Suwannee Co., Fl; ED116 Pine Grove, Pct. 13; 15 June; pg.148A, at 183, 183:
JOHNS, Matthew; farmer; m,W, May 1829, 71, m47, Ga, SC, SC.
………., Malinda; wife; f,W, July 1835, 64, m47, Fl, Ga, Ga.
RAINS, Hill; farm laborer; m,W, May 1871, 29, m4, SC, NC, SC.
………., Georgia; wife; f,W, Jan 1877, 23, m4, Fl, Ga, Fl.
………., May; dau; Aug 1897, 2, Fl.
………., Margaret; dau; May 1900, 1 month; Fl.
(Margaret died before 1910.)
(“May” is Bertha Mae.)
The month and year listed for each, are their birth month & year.
Matthew & Malinda Johns are Georgia’s grandparents, they have been married 47 yrs. Hill & Georgia have been marr’d 4 yrs.
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Note: Euel Hill Raines’ brothers Wade H (Hampton?) Raines and Chalmers Lee Raines also moved to Suwannee Co., Fl., as did Georgia Miller Raines’ uncle Lewis Johns.
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Re Georgia Miller:
1880 Columbia Co., Fl (next county east of Suwannee); ED20, Fourth District; 15 June; pg.361C, at 19, 19:
JOHNS, Matthew; Farmer; W,m, 51; Ga, SC, SC.
………., Malinda; wife; W, f, 45; Fl, Ga, Ga.
………., Julia C.; dau, (divorced), 20, Fl.
………., Annie M.; dau, 17, Fl.
………., Lewis H.; son, 14, Fl
MILLER, Georgia; Grand-dau, 3, Fl, Ga, Fl.*******
Per the researcher referred to before, Julia C. Johns marr’d Morgan Miller, so Julia took back her maiden name, at least for this census.
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The rest will be in a 2nd posting.
Bill
RAINES – NC->SC->FL, Continued……….
Euell Hill Raines’ parents –
Thadius Patrick Raines and Mary Jane Truitt:
1910 Darlington Co., SC Fed Census – ED13 Philadelphia Twp; 12 May; pg 215A, at 11, 11:
RAINES, Thadeus P.; farmer, m, W, 68, Widowed; SC, SC, SC.
STOKES, Leand.; Grandson; farm laborer, m, W, 14; SC, SC, SC.
…………, Eula; Granddau, f, W, 12; SC
…………, Eugene; Grandson, m, W, 10; SC.
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1900 Darlington Co., SC Fed Census – ED27 Philadelphia Twp; 1 June; pg. 239A, at 8, 8:
RAINS, Patrick T.; farmer; W, m, Oct 1841, 58, m34 yrs, NC,NC,NC
………, Mary J.; wife; W, f, Dec 1845, 54, m34, 13/8, SC, NC, SC
………, Lena; dau, Jun 1878, 21, SC
………, Caraway H.; son, Sept 1880, 19, SC
………, Thadius E.; son, July 1883, 16, SC
STOKES, Leroy; Gd-son; April 1896, 4, SC (the 1910 “Leand.”)
…………, Eula; Gd-dau; July 1897, 2, SC
…………, Eugene; Gd-son; July 1899, 10 months, SC.
(per the ‘Tree 4078″ researcher, Mary Jane (Truitt) Raines d. 7 May 1908. I haven’t tried to discover who the parents of these STOKES children are, but they aren’t in your direct line.)
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Most of the 1890 census was burned in a 1921 warehouse fire in Baltimore, Md., so that data is gone.
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Euell (usually spelled “Ewell”) Hill Raines’ family:
1880 Darlington Co., SC; ED44 Philadelphia Twp; 9 June; pg.277A at 126, 127:
RAINES, Thadius P.; W,m, 39, Farmer; SC, SC, SC.
……….., Mary J.; W, f, 34, wife; SC, SC, SC.
……….., Capers; 13, son, SC
……….., Sarah; 12, dau, SC
……….., Lee; 10, son, SC (Chalmers Lee Raines also moved to FL)
……….., HILL; 8, son, SC *******(Euell Hill Raines)
……….., Ella; 7, dau, SC
……….., Anna; 5, dau, SC
……….., Hampton; 4, son, SC (may also have moved to FL)
……….., Lena; 2, dau, SC
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While I did find a Patrick and Mary J. Rains in 1870 Darlington SC, the ages and the childrens’ names wouldn’t convince anyone that this is who we are tracking so I’m still looking. Fortunately, we can pick them up in 1860, but this is a good place to stop for tonight.
I have the 1860 to 1790 data to post tomorrow.
Bill
RAINES
(Note: Thadius Patrick Raines’ parents are asserted to be Thomas Raines and Elizabeth Revall, so either Edwin was a “Thomas” Edwin and Sarah was a Sarah “Elizabeth”, or Thomas and Elizabeth were not his parents. Clearly, Patrick is Edwin and Sarah’s son as per these census records.)
Thadius Patrick Raines marr’d Mary Jane Truitt on 20 Aug 1865 in Darlington Co., SC. Mary was the dau of James C. Truitt, b.abt. 1816 SC, and Margaret _?_, b.abt. 1822 SC.
1860 Darlington Co., SC Fed Census; Darlington District; 4 Aug;
pg. 427A, at 287, 287:
Edwin RAINES, 52, m, – , farmer, $0, NC
Sarah, 49, f, – , NC
Eliz., 25, f, NC
PATRICK, 19, f, NC*******
Parnell, 16, m, NC
Eliza, 13, f, SC
Tho., 8, m, SC (Thomas moved to Madison Co., FL by 1880)
Sarah A.; 2, f, SC
Same census, pg. 408A, 18 July, is Hardy H. Raines, another son of Edwin & Sarah Raines and he also had moved to Madison Co., FL by 1880.
H. H. Raines, 31, m, – , Overseer, $1600, $0, NC
C. A., 22, f, -, SC
M. J., 5, f, SC
S. A., 3, f, SC
W. D., 1, m, SC
and another son of Edwin: same census, pg. 425A:
James G. Raines, 28, m, – , farmer, $2800, $0, NC
Eliza A., 21, f, – , SC.
(he stayed in SC)
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1850 Darlington Co., SC Fed Census; Third Division; 6 Oct; pg. 319A, at 769, 769:
Edmond Ranes; 43, m, -, farmer, $1700, NC
Sarah, 41, f, -, NC
Hardy, 20, m, NC (“H. H.” listed in 1860 above)
James, 18, m, NC (the “James G. listed in 1860)
Eliz.th., 14, f, NC (abbreviated form of “Elizabeth”)
Mary, 13, f, NC
Wm., 9, m, NC (maybe 10 yrs old?)
PATRICK, 7, m, NC (would have actually been 9)*******
Parmelia, 5, f, NC
Patience, 3, f, NC
Some of the youngest children of 1850 don’t match up with the 1860 children – I don’t have any data to support any assumption.
It does appear clear that this family moved to SC from NC in the 1840s.
Hardy H. Raines had also moved to Madison Co., FL by 1880.
There is also a Matthew Ranes, 36, b.NC, his wife Milley, 35, b.NC and their presumed son Gray, 18, NC, in Division 4 of 1850 Darlington Co., SC who may be a brother of Edwin/Edmond.
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1840 Johnston Co., NC Fed Census (only the head of household’s name is listed on census records before 1850):
(There is no “Edmond” or “Thomas” in 1840 NC, and this is the only Edwin Raines and we can match his known children of 1850 to these children in 1840):
Edwin RAINS = 111001 – 11001
his household contained:
1 male under 5. (William?)
1 male 5 to 9. (James)
1 male 10 to 14. (Hardy)
1 male 30 to 39 (Edwin)
1 female under 5. (Mary)
1 female 5 to 9. (Elizabeth)
1 female 20 to 29 (Sarah).
Other RAINES in 1840 Johnston Co., NC
Henry, 30 to 39. page 240.
Oliver, 60 to 69. page 247.
William, 30 to 39. page 247.
John Sr., 60 to 69. page 251.
William G., 20 to 29. page 251.
Edwin is the son of either Oliver or John Sr., but didn’t find absolute proof of either, but their grandfather Henry Raines, b.1715, d. 1785 Johnston Co., NC marr’d Ann Oliver.
Ann (presumalby Oliver) Raines is a head of household on the 1790 Johnston Co census, and also listed on that census are Frederick, Ambrose & Oliver Raines.
Edwin’s line is unclear from here, so I’ll just list the heads of households in Johnston Co., NC, prior to this time.
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RAINES in 1830 Johnston Co:
Hawkins Rains
= the only male in the household is listed as under 5 and this may be an incomplete listing because the oldest female here is 30 to 39, and I’ve never run into a situation where a female would have been identified like “Hawkins Rains” is here. Yah never know, but I’m thinking this is just an incomplete listing of the males in the household.
John Rains Sr., 50 to 59.
John Rains Jr., 20 to 29.
Oliver Rains, 50 to 59.
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RAINES in 1820 Johnston Co:
Mary Rains, over 45 yrs. page 267.
Henry Rains, 26 to 44. page 282.
Henry Rains, 26 to 44. page 282 (this is a 2nd Henry)
John Rains, 26 to 44.
Oliver Rains, 26 to 44.
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RAINES in 1810 Johnston Co:
Henry, 16 to 25. page 225.
John, 26 to 44. page 225.
John, 26 to 44. page 235.
Oliver, over 45. page 225.
Ambrose (?), 2 males 26 to 44, in this household. page 225.
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RAINES in 1800 Johnston Co:
Ambrose, 26 to 44. page 747.
Oliver, 26 to 44. page 746.
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The 1790 Raines’ were listed above.
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Other tidbits of information:
Ambrose Raines died in 1831 in Chatham Co., NC and his widow and family moved Missouri shortly thereafter. His wife was Rachael Rushton who died in 1837 in Pettis Co., Mo.
Rachael’s father was John Rushton, d.1805, and Ambrose Raines is listed as an heir in John Rushton’s Will. Some descendants of this line claim to be of Indian descent.
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Ambrose Raines has been identified as the son of Ishmael Raines, d. 1791 Randolph Co., NC, and Sarah _?_, and Ishmael & Sarah’s other sons identifed as George & John.
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The Henry Rains, b. 1715, who marr’d Ann Oliver, had a son John, b.1742, d. 1772, who marr’d Mary Ingram. After John died, Mary remarried Capt. Thomas Lee in Johnston Co., NC and moved to Hawkins Co., Tenn.
John, b.1742, marr’d Martha “Patsy” LANE (dau of William) and had son Henry, b. 1767 Johnston Co., NC. This Henry Raines and William Lane moved to Tenn and then to the Yellow Creek area of Knox Co., KY where Henry Raines died in 1838. Some descendants of this line claim Indian descent.
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Bill
Bluejoy,
I missed this somehow, but now I found you! See, I told you Bill was awsome! I’m glad you joined us and hope to hear a bunch more from you. Have a good Holiday. Love & Light, Lynella.:)
Hi Bluejoy,
I have Raines three different times in my family. Elizabeth RAINS and Elisha HAMMER are my 6th Great-Grandparents. Most of what I have on this line came from relatives. Anyway, Elizabeth was born abt. 1760 in Randolph County, North Carolina and died in Tennessee. Their daughter Hannah married John YORK. There are some interesting stories online about John York’s death at the “Haun’s Mill Massacre”. My second Raines line is on my Davis side. Thomas “Walter” RAINES married my great-grand aunt, Ida May DAVIS, in 1898 here in Howard County, Indiana. Based on census records, his father, James “Benjamin” RAINS, was born abt. 1848 in Kentucky. The 3rd Raines in my family was John A. RAINES, who married into my Jones line that I have been researching. He was born abt. 1886 in Ohio. Sometime in the 1930’s (I assume in the Dayton area because that is where most of them lived at that time), he married Violet Gwendolyn PICKERAL, daughter of Charles PICKERAL and Martha JONES. According to census records, both his parents were also born in Ohio, but before that I believe his family was from Virginia, but I need to verify that.
Stacey
Morgan Miller and Julia (Johns) Miller divorced prior to the 1880 census being taken.
Julia stayed in Florida and her dau marr’d Euell Hill RAINES.
Morgan Miller went back to Georgia:
U.S. Census:
1880 Liberty Co., Ga.; ED 69 District 17; Village of Hinesville (also the County Seat); 22 June; pg. 94B, at 15, 15:
MILLER, John W.; W, m, 29, Farmer, Ga, Ga, Ga.
……….., Margaret E.; W, f, 40, wife, Ga, Ga, Ga.
……….., James J.,; 7, son, Ga.
……….., Rubie D.; 1, dau, Ga.
DELOACH, Ardelia; f, 20, Step-dau, Ga.
…………., Alzada; f, 15, Step-dau, Ga.
…………., Catherine; f, 12, Step-dau, Ga.
…………., Lula; f, 10, Step-dau, Ga.
MILLER, Morgan; W, m, 25, Brother, Divorced; Ga, Ga, Ga.*******
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I haven’t found any member of this Miller family in 1870 census.
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1860 Bulloch Co., Ga; P.O.: Statesboro; 19 July, pg. 82, at 549, 551:
James J. MILLER, 29, m, – , farmer, $8000, $10700, Ga.
Sarah……………., 28, f, – , Ga.
Barbara…………., 11, f, Ga.
JOHN………………. 9, m, Ga.*******
Margaret…………. 7, f, Ga.
MORGAN………….. 4, m, Ga.*******
Ann…………………. 1, f, Ga.
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1850 Bulloch Co., Ga; Subdivision 6; 10 Sept; pg. 251, at 211, 218:
James MILLER, 19, m, – , farmer, $1500, Ga.
Sarah…………., 18, f, – , Ga.
Barbary…………. 1, f, Ga.
Per Bulloch Co., Ga. Marriage Records:
James J. Miller marr’d Sarah WILLIAMS on 2 March 1848.
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Also in 1850 Bulloch Co., Ga., is John R. Miller, 46, b.Ga. and his wife Nancy, 42, b. Ga., with 7 children in the household. They make good candidates to research further as possible parents of James J. Miller, father of Morgan Miller. A Williams family lived next door to John R. Miller.
Bill
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