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Vance,
There are Joyners in Indian Woods cemetery. The other names are: Rascoe, Jones, Williams, Hyman, Cherry, Manning ,Demory, Smallwood, Bryant, Ruffin and Lankford all listed as Mullatto on the 1920 census. In fact all these people lived on the reservation grounds after the Civil War. From what I have gotten from people in the area these were the decendents of the Tuscaroras who stayed in the area when the others went north.
Jade
Jade,
It doesn’t seem strange to me to hear the ancestors calling. We have a bond with them.
So, Indian Woods and current Woodville are different? But, how would we find the census for Indian Woods now? I didn’t see anything specific for that. Unfortunately, place names changed..counties changed..that makes it more difficult to find some things…
Well, I need to go to sleep..Sue J
Jade, I just went back to emails a relative sent me. Her folks left Oklahoma for California during the 1930s “dust bowl”, and their descendants still live there. Her husband is descended from my grandma’s oldest sister.
She seemed to have more documentation of who we were than the rest of the family (with grandma a close second).
Grandma’s sister was Etta Richey Davenport. I called her Aunt Ettie when I was a kid, but she was a great aunt. I remember seeing her entire back yard as a garden full of vegetables with her about 80 years old, and I wondered how she dug it all up herself, which she did. She was b. 1870s Choctaw Nation I believe, d. in mid 1960s I think. She lived in Marlow, Ok, which in earlier timed was part of the Chickasaw Nation, not moving out of it as did my grandparents. It was her son that went to Californiain the 30s. According to my relative, Aunt Ettie was to have told her that “Harriet’s mother was a Joiner or a Looney”. My relative and I both thought of nothing but Cherokee for years and years, and I never saw a Cherokee surnamed “Joiner” but there are Cherokee Looney’s. But in the last 5 years, thanks to this forum, I have expanded my research beyond Cherokee and I am finding all kinds of stuff.
Well I went back and reread all my emails from this California Davenport relative — and she mentioned there are McNutt’s & Joiner’s, Looney’s, Guest’s/Gist’s/Guess, Brown’s in Blount County, Tn after 1800 some time. This county was ceded from the Cherokee around 1800 (give or take a decade) and I need to look up the exact date. Other of my ancestors lived there when it was in the Cherokee Nation (Wood’s, Hamilton, Dickson and I think Richey (there is an orphan Gidoen Richey there and my John in S In has a Gideon Richey living near him that might be a brother, same time frame as the orphan, born same generation to be a brother). John Woods received a passport to work as a blacksmith in the Cherokee Nation at least from 1801-1803 (dates I’ve seen) per request from Chief Glass himself, if I recall it right — need to reread it tho. My direct ancestor in Blount Count was also named John Woods. I don’t know if it is the same John Woods, tho, but it might be. Mine lived there from the late 1780s til 1806 when the family went to Gibson Co., In.
Anyhow, if g-g-grandma Hariet Guess Brown’s mother was a Joiner as my great aunt told her descendants (which we can’t prove), it might be they came through Blount Co. Tn when it was still part of the Cherokee Nation. So i need to find a link from the Joiner’s in Blount County, Tn to the area around Indian Woods that you are talking about. Also I noticed she mentioned “Williams” but I didn’t look too closely at it. You mention them in that cemetary, so maybe I should print out all those emails from my Davenport cousin and look over them more carefully. She, like myself until recently, never looked past the generation that lived on Cherokee lands.
Thank you very much for this information. Oh those Joiners and others in Blount I mentioned are not listed as white, I believe it said “B” or “C”. Someone said “C” meant colored and was from “Free Person of Color”. Is that correct? Again, I need to print out those emails and look over them better. A lot of information she wrote me I couldn’t make heads or tails of. Well now it seems more relevant.
thanks again
vance
Sue,
Indian Woods census and other communities in Windsor NC (Bertie Co) can be found if you go to GenWeb then choose NC and then choose counties and choose Bertie. Choose the link NC genweb on line archives and it will bring you to the page that has all the info. There are also other years listed if you pull up Bertie Co NC. They have all kinds of infomation besides census. Their website through GenWeb has much more info than other counties I have looked at on that website.
Enjoy!
Jade
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