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November 29, 2004 at 2:15 am #1237
Disseration: by Dr. Richard Allen Carlson Jr.
Michigan State University
‘Who’s your people?’: Cumulative identity among the Salyersville Indian population of Kentucky’s Appalachia and the midwest muckfields, 1677–2000 .
The Salyersville Indian Population is a composite of Cherokee, Saponi and Old Virginia Indian families that consolidated in the late colonial period to form a distinct Appalachian Indian population. The families have preserved their identity as an Indian people ever since. An analysis of this identity through time shows that Salyersville Indian identity is the product of cumulative historical actions guided by specific sociocultural processes that subvert notions regarding race, class, ethnicity, religiosity, or political affiliation. In this case, the effective operational definition of Indian identity is based on family relations that provide kinship links, social integration, cooperative efforts, sources of knowledge and emotional support. Highlighting the functional aspects of kin arrangements—articulated through and supported by interrelated family groups over time reveals that the economic and social cooperation of kin works to maintain the size and strength of the families. The operationalization of kinship acts to focus Salyersville Indian identity on a definition of kin which subsumes various attitudes about race and ethnicity that are encountered at specific times and under specific circumstances. By assigning kinship a higher priority than relations based upon religious, class or political affiliation, the Salyersville Indians have managed to keep their kin affiliations and thus their Indian identity, from being obscured over time. Family is the vehicle by which this cumulative identity asIndian has been maintained. That is because kinship is the only constant serving to define and maintain Salyersville Indian identity through time and space.
Table of Contents:
Chapter 1: The Saponi and Their Relations
Chapter 2: The Saponi Diaspora and the Christian Band of Saponi
Chapter 3: Family Accommodations from Flatt River to New River
Chapter 4: From New River to Stone Mountain, Greasy Rock and the Cumberland Gap
Chapter 5: Melungeon Indians and an Interloper at Vardy Springs
Chapter 6: Finding Contentment in Kentucky
Chapter 7: Burning Springs
Chapter 8: Politics, Paupers,and Civilized (self supporting) Indians
Chapter 9: Salyersville Indians, Eastern Cherokee and the US Court of Claims
Chapter 10: Enter the Melungeon Hunter;Greasy Rock, Stone Mountain and Salyersville Indian Communities
Chapter 11: Struggles with God, Coal, and Whiskey
Chapter 12: Within and Beyond Mountain Divides
Chapter 13: Tell them on the Mountain
Chapter 14: New Day Rising
Chapter 15:Salyersville Indians and Their Relations Today
The complete disseration is over 700 pages . According to what I have heard there is a lot about the Collins families in this work. I am sending for a printed hard copy which should take less than a week to recieve. Cost for hard copy is $36.00
http://wwwlib.umi.com/dissertations/fullcit/3115947
Brenda
November 29, 2004 at 2:15 am #11821Brenda:
When you look through this dissertation, keep your eyes out for Brown and Rhodes, will you? My great-aunt’s autobiography lists a location in Ohio for my ggggrandmother whose name was Brown. The name of the location was very like Saylersville. There is no place in Ohio by the name she lists. Her husband follows a suspicious route of movement, born near Fort Wayne, married in Portage, OH, and buried in Tuscararas, OH. She is buried in southeast Ohio, not really far from the Blackfoot Cemetery.
Cindy
November 29, 2004 at 2:15 am #11837Brenda, someone else was telling me about that dissertation. I was thinking about purchasing it, too. Sounds like a gold mine . . . 🙂
Where is Salyersville? What state?
vance
November 29, 2004 at 2:15 am #11845Vance,
Salyersville is in Kentucky however , I read the introducty pages online and it tells about the migeration of the Virginia Indians (including Saponi) that moved north to join the Onieda and Cauywa. The author also tells of a migeration to the Wis & Mich areas and that they still have PowWow or Reunions today of people that make up these tribes. I tried to copy of of it to post here but they have it fixed so a person can’t copy & paste. I took a chance and typed the “Table of Contents” just to let you know what the book consisted of.
I can’t wait to get my copy altho this is just the loose pages …the book won’t be ready til sometime this summer.
Brenda
November 29, 2004 at 2:15 am #11847Brenda, thanks for the link. There is some interesting stuff in there. Where are Stone Mountain and Greasy Rock that are mentioned in the above link located? Online, I found mention of Greasy Rock in Tennessee, but no city by that name. Is this the right one? I found mention of two Stone Mountains. One in Georgia and one in North Carolina.
Stacey
November 29, 2004 at 2:15 am #11848He mentions the Cole name right off. My ex has that name in his Boydton family — very Indian looking people. Perhaps this book will be helpful. It does look to be important. I wonder how the author substantiates the claim of Saponi origins.
November 29, 2004 at 2:15 am #11849…..and all I get is a registration page…. asking for my credit card!!
what IS everyone clicking, that you’re able to read ANYTHING at that URL?!
I’m begining to question which planet my cable wires are connected to…. my wife does, too, but I’ve discerned she’s not referring to this PC 🙂
November 29, 2004 at 2:15 am #11852Bill,
The URL will bring you up to a page about “disertations” scroll down where it says are you “faculity, staff or student” click “NO” and “CONTINUE”
This will bring you up to a page that has “pricing in the upper right side of the page and if you scroll down you will see where they have a 23 page preview you can read. Click on the image to inlarge to read.
I ordered the 711 pages yesterday and it is comming by snail mail. I also spoke to Dr. Carlson and he said he was not pleased with the quality of the photo’s and maps that were included and that by summer the last editing will be done and it sounded like they might be going through another publisher. If we find any mistakes or want to add anything to his work he welcomes any imput.
Read the 23 pages and see if you get as excited as I am. Dr. Carlson also said he has Meredith Collins military records which he found on his trip to DC archives. He has followed all four – five Collins men that were on McDaniel’s Fincastle Co. militia.
Brenda
November 29, 2004 at 2:15 am #11853Thanks, Brenda,
I’m going to order it too.
November 29, 2004 at 2:15 am #11854Stacy asked: Where are Stone Mountain and Greasy Rock that are mentioned in the above link located?
I found Greasy Rock in Hancock Co. Tennessee and Stone Mountain in what is today Northern Georgia. Don’t know if there are others by the same name.
Brenda
November 29, 2004 at 2:15 am #11855There is also a Stone Mtn and a Greasy Creek (don’t know about Greasy Rock) in old Fincastle Co, Va. (Current Carroll and Floyd cos….. on the New River plateau. Stone Mtn may be in Patrick or Henry…… remember passing it during our trip to Va mountains last month.
November 29, 2004 at 2:15 am #11885Thanks Brenda,
If I can figure out howto get into that website, I think I’ll order it too.
vance
November 29, 2004 at 2:15 am #11896Vance,
Go back a couple of posts to where Brenda explained to me how to get into there. Her directions worked.
Bill
November 29, 2004 at 2:15 am #11913The disertation arrived today. I am busy reading. So far I am not disappointed.
Was suprised to find Mahanip’s name was Harry Irvin. My grandfather’s first name was Ervin and so is my father’s .
Brenda
November 29, 2004 at 2:15 am #12326Bill & Vance,
Did you guys recieve your copy of the disertation? Wondering what your thoughts were?
Brenda
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