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Linda ,
Thank you so much for your words and you are right i knew when my grandmother was sharing with me over and over the stories were “special” and i did take it to heart! I am encouraged and will continue as time permits. I appreciate the clarification. So tickled she was right on so many accounts including the Iroquoian. That would be grandpa’s line but she put all of them together in her stories. This is part of why i want to make a trip. It has come to life for me here on this forum however to stand in the places will be so fine.
To Beeleaf: I will keep an eye out for your names as i do many from the forum but to date do not have any of your surnames in my linage.
Janette
Thanks for the help,
As i said i have done very little research on this line as i am starting with what i know and this line did not share a bit. If you have something it would be great. My bet that the women with Mayo, Hook and Caffee are a good posability. So what i have is the geneaology:
Direct Descendants of John Owens
1 John Owens b: Bef. 1713
.. +Unknown
.. 2 John Owens, Jr. b: in Isle of Wight, VA d: Abt. August 26, 1799 in Edgecomb Co, NC
.. *2nd Wife of John Owens, Jr.:
…… +Sarah Duck
…… 3 Etheldred Owens b: 1742 d: 1816 in Barnwell County, SC
………. +Susan Lee
………. 4 Griffin Owens b: July 25, 1786 in Barnwell Co. SC d: June 2, 1852 in Barnwell Co., SC
………….. +Civil Green b: August 18, 1787 d: August 17, 1822
…………… 5 Evan Owens b: January 10, 1807 in Barnwell Co. SC d: May 7, 1878 in Crenshaw County., AL
………………. +Sophia Caffey b: October 19, 1817 in North Carolina d: December 30, 1888 in Crenshaw County, AL
………………. 6 James Newt Monroe Owens b: April 24, 1852 in Crenshaw County, Alabama d: March 26, 1923 in Hopkins County, Texas
………. *2nd Wife of Griffin Owens:
…… *2nd Wife of Etheldred Owens:
I will be here if anything matches up!
Janette
Steve – O
The list above quit before my great grandfather:
He was Evan Thomas Owens
Father above
Mother Hester Ann Hook
Her Father HJ Hook (indian trader died in Civil War
Her Mother Orpha Mayo ( I have a photo from 1880?)
I also have the geneology on Mayo, and Hook if they match anything of yours. Bill has them too but not posted.
Janette
Janette:
The trouble with the Iroquois comment is that so many of the tribes were accepted by the Iroquois tribes as they went north. That helps confuse my lines. And then, the tribes mixed as they went north too. The story from my ggggrandmother’s line is Blackfoot, but her step grandson wrote a book describing the Indians where she came from as Cornplanter Seneca. However, a cousin raised among the group in IA remembers words that I found to be Shawnee. This is also a rumor among descendents still in OH. Something I read said that Cornplanter’s reservation in PA held a variety of tribes. This group intermarries with mixed PA groups.
My direct lines from MD were Green, Duncan, Butt, Horner, and Potter. They also intermarried with Willison, Metcalf, Williamson, and Baker, although these people are not in my direct lines. They originate from Charles County; Prince George County; Princess Anne County; and near Baltimore, MD.
Techteach
HI Techteach!
When are you comeing my way???? I still have to go to Calif and then on July to Vermont. Hope to be around when you pass through.
Ok i agree because i have seen sings of everything from the eastern tribes that i am just now learning about to Chickasaw for grandpa(Dad’s side) however his lineage may be Nottoway/Sapoi. When they left TN they ran to the Creeks and married there so i suppose all you can say our lines are from all the nations right… will still try to unravel the mystery.
The only name in your lineage i have spotted is Green… see the above posts, note Civil Green. Does that ring a bell???? Good to know what you are looking for and will keep an eye out.
Janette
I did not include all my lines, just those from MD. There is also Sinkey, Huston, and Ralston, although I think that the Ralston line did not become mixed until my Blackfoot ID, Nancy Agnes McLane joined the family. The story in my family is that the Sinkey brings in the NA, while Deb’s family says that the Ralston line brings in the NA. I believe that the Greens and Nancy McLane bring in the NA which would make both stories correct, because the Greens connect with both lines and Nancy’s children marry the Green descendents. And the story is that the Huston line is mixed. Other stories include connections to Tecumseh and Chief Logan.
I am not sure of the date that we will be out there. We are traveling the second to the last week of July, but the hubby plans the trip, and I have not asked for details yet.
Techteach
Thanks Techteach,
Appreciate the additional info on Md family. will search tipton line sometime soon. there is so much to cover and i am not very patient.
Looks like our schedule for July will not match. Tree day in vermont on July 25th Shucks!
Janette
The only connection I find between your Owens and my Owens is that they were both in the same county, Henrico County Va., at one time. Were they related? Well they both share John and William as surnames. If you ever place a Bartholomew Owens, s/o John Owens and Joanne White, husband of Joanna Jones, then they would be related. But I cannot put the two families together, accept for them both being in the same county at one time, and sharing the first names. Still interesting enough for me to note for further research.
Janette:
The second set of names were from PA, not MD. Sinkey and Huston were in central PA near Huntington. Ralston and McLane were near Pittsburgh. The MD group moved to near Shepherdstown, WV first, then all groups (except Ralston and McLane) move to Licking County, OH. Finally, the entire group ends up in Jackson/Jones County, IA, where I grew up.
Techteach
Just read quickly an except from a book online that had either John Austin or Hannah Love in the pedigree of Emperor Charlemange. Anyone heard this before.
PDA wrote: My family has been traced back to John Austin who stated in Surry county court that he was Saponi Indian. I hope to come to the Pow-Wow and learn more. Any info. on where to learn more of my new found heritage would be greatly appreciated.
I HAVE FOLLOWED THESE THREE NAME BACK TO JOHN AUSTIN SR MARRIED A SAPONI INDIANB, I THEN DECEND THROUGH HIS SON JOHN AUSTIN JR, THESE THREE FAMILIES INTERMARRIED SO MANY TIME IN MY LINE, WHO FOR SURE WAS JOHN AUSTIN JR MOTHER AND WHO FOR SURE DID HE MARRY, SOME PLACES SAY SHE WAS MARY MCBEE, SOME ITS MAYBEE AND OTHERS SAY HE MARRIED A SUSQUHANNAH INDIAN WOMAN
CAN ANYONE HELP ME
SHIRLEY:rolleyes:
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