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I am on Gedmatch as is my mother. Some people here are connected. Mom’s number is A231339. Mine is M512763 (and T494404 and A434343. Yes, I tested in all major 3 companies. I also uploaded to WeGene, DNALand and MyHeritage. I have been diagnosed with a genetic issue since I first joined and many of my DNA efforts are an attempt to find a cure for me and my family.)
If we share numbers, we can easier to one-to-one matches. And, if you have not uploaded to Gedmatch, do so. It is free and offers many more tools. I think that they have better admixture tools. None of the major companies sees my NA, but Gedmatch does. Oh, wait, the latest update to FamilyTreeDNA where I transferred Mom’s results does show Siberian for her. I trust the results on Gedmatch most. Somewhere, my sister inherited epicanthic folds :).
Cindy Anderson, AKA Techteach
Hi Wendy,
At normal thresholds I haven’t seen any matches between you and Cindy. Doing a multi-kit analysis Cindy’s mom has matches to my mom M103622, uncle M026223 , 2nd cousin A248622, 3rd cousin A248622, and Sheila A540385 from the Saponi group we were in on FB. At normal thresholds the only person that Cindy has a match to is Sheila.
I notice there is a Childress kit A706312 that has sizeable matches to you and Cindy’s mom. Childs/Childress being a Saponi name. Not sure if it’s married or maiden name in this case.
-Marc aka Seneca Drybread
Since I am now able to access this forum now (I forgot my password :)), and Marc helped me, I thought I would share another DNA test I took. It is from Geneplaza and is supposed to be based on North American Native American DNA. It matches what I think I am based on genealogy. It shows me as 5% NA.
Techteach (Cindy)
I have taken Ancestry DNA but haven’t extended to any of the other sites yet. I know just enough about DNA to be dangerous. The combination of research outside of the box and DNA thrulines did smash through 3 brick walls and correct one wrong path. Also found a niece that I didn’t know that I had. That was pretty neat.
Obviously, Ancestry does not have a database for Virginia, Carolina Indians. We should work on identifying some segments we have in common. I have a friend who wants to connect to a Gibson database group. How would he do that?After 5 years of work I’ve been able to identify one specific segment I can tie definitively to the Indiana Jones-Smith line the passed oral history in my family. It has been quite challenging as many cousins on this line have limited information about the branch of their tree that connects. I have eight people in my immediate and extended family who match and a similar number who we’ve found through DNA matching. Tying it back to location there are multiple clues pointing to Pennsylvania. Shamokin (present day Sunbury PA) is where I’m thinking the connection originated. As with all of these lines it is mixed. One descendant in this group has a Native American maternal haplogroup. Some descendant identify as black some as white. Clearly all of us are truly tri-racial.
SORRY, I AM NOT YET USED TO COMING HERE REGULARLY. I DID THE K5 TEST. ITS RESULTS MATCHES MY RESULTS BASED ON GENEALOGY.
I STILL CANNOT BREAK THROUGH MY NANCY AGNES MCLANE LINE (MY BLACKFOOT), ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT A MCLEAN SETTLED IN THE AREA HER FAMILY WAS IN IN IOWA. ALSO, HER FAMILY LIVED NEAR A LANE IN PA. I WAS TOLD THAT MY NA ANCESTORS WERE SHAWNEE BY THE GRANDDAUGHTER OF THE UNCLE OF MY GREAT GREAT GRANDMOTHER. NANCY IVED NEAR LANE FAMILIES IN PA, AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS A SHAWNEE SURNAME.
TECHTEACH (RETIRED)
Techteach, I thought maybe you were shouting because you have gotten hard of hearing in your old age. LOL I know since I was last active on Saponitown my body has gone down hill drastically. I’m not invalid yet but I feel my age. LOL Good to see you again. Are you still in touch with any of our old members?
Marc, if we are open to new members then I’ll start inviting some.
I have the register link setup so new members can join. I was getting asks from people to set that up again, as well as a password reset link, which I will set up too.
One resource I found on Shamokin is here:
Native Americans in Shamokin c.1748 by David Minderhout, Ph.D.
Some highlights:
Lenapes/Delawares, Tutelos, Saponis, Nanticokes, Mahicans, Tuscaroras, Shawnees, Catawbas, and all the original five members of the League of the Iroquois – Mohawks, Oneidas, Onondagas, Cayugas and Senecas – are mentioned in the diaries. Presiding over this complex mix of peoples was a man named Shikellamy, an Oneida chief who had often served as a middleman between Europeans and natives and who had been placed in Shamokin by the League to oversee native affairs in Pennsylvania and also to protect the southern border of Iroquois territory. This complex and ever-changing array of native peoples was not “traditional,” but, as a recent text puts it, a result of “a century of upheaval and transformation that enveloped all who lived through it.”
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Thus, Nanticokes from Delaware, Conoys from Maryland, and Tutelos, Saponis and Tuscaroras from the Carolinas all migrated into Pennsylvania in the late 17th and early 18th centuries. Shawnees from the area that is now western Kentucky also joined the mix, as did Mahicans from New York; both were fleeing encroachments from other native peoples in their own homelands. There was a Shawnee town on the North Branch of the Susquehanna by 1702 and on an island at present-day Milton, Pennsylvania, by the 1740’s. Since the Susquehanna River was the conduit through which traffic flowed in central Pennsylvania, it is not surprising that so many people ended up passing through or living in Shamokin.
There was also a Shawnee town near Allensville, PA, not far from the farm of my Sinkey family. It was led by a friendly chief named Kishacoquillas. My Revolutionary War patriot, William Sinkey, spent the war spying on the natives in the Kishacoquillas Valley, now called the Big Valley. We believe him to have been of mixed race. His family marries into the family of my Blackfoot ancestor and eventually made it to eastern Iowa. The Sinkeys stayed for a time near Hartford, Ohio, formerly known as Croton. The Ralston family, the family of my Blackfoot, Nancy Agnes McLane, moved directly from Butler County, PA to Iowa. Two of her sons married Sinkey women.
Cindy, AKA Techteach, but now retired techteach
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