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February 12, 2005 at 7:35 am #1381
Bill, any thoughts on the possibility that Susannah Martin b. abt 1725 could be the daughter of Joseph Martin and Susannah Childs? She married William Moore in Albemarle co, Va before they moved to Person co, NC.
February 12, 2005 at 7:35 am #13688Col. Joseph Martin d. bet Dec 1760 and 14 Jan 1762 in Albermarle Co. He and Susannah Chiles Martin, (b. 1700-1715; d. 28 Jun 1754) did have a dau named Susannah Martin, “b. bef. 1740”, but I don’t know who she married.
Bill
February 12, 2005 at 7:35 am #13722Bill……. a couple of questions
Are either Joseph Martin or Susannah Chiles confirmed as native american or mixed?
and….. even though we can’t document that Susannah Martin who married William Moore is indeed the daughter of Joseph and Susannah, can I call you “cuz” anyhow? 😉
February 12, 2005 at 7:35 am #13729Didn’t Joseph Martin marry Nancy Ward’s daughter? I might be confusing them with others . . .
February 12, 2005 at 7:35 am #13734Yes, Gen. Joseph Martin (Jr) m’d the Ward. Gen. Martin’s mother was Susannah Chiles.
February 12, 2005 at 7:35 am #13743There are more than one susannah chiles. If this is on the right track, Walter Chiles we know of..see the previous posts on Chiles and Tinsley…Walter with a son Henry and a son John..son John with daughter Susannah who married Joesph Martin. Son Henry had a son Henry who had Susannah Chiles who married John Tinsley and after he died married Andrew Wade..So these Susannahs would be related. And how many children did Walter have? Or the Henry’s? How many wives?
The Susannah Chiles/John Tinsley children born in Halifax co Va.
Sister of Susannah Chiles/joseph Martin,
Agatha Chiles b Caroline co Va married David Terrell. had sons Micajah Terrell and David Terrell.
Another sibling of Susannah and Agatha..Micajah Chiles.
Kind of fits? Needs more (moore) research:) sue j
February 12, 2005 at 7:35 am #13757guess my previous post didn’t really help…I tried to find more on this but haven’t found a thing. Nothing on Susannah Martin..William Moore..
Sue J
February 12, 2005 at 7:35 am #13759?Maj/Col/Gen? Martin (I think it is the one who married Nancy Ward’s daughter, but if there are 2 Joseph Martin’s father and son, I am not sure which of the two this is) would have known Nathaniel Gist. Nathaniel was Sequoyah’s father.
I think both these men were at Fort Louduon when the Cherokee attacked and took it @ 1760 or so, so Joseph Jr or Sr and Nathaniel must have known each other pretty well. I once looked into a possible link as there was a “Martin Gist” (who eventually settled near Hot Springs, Ark, some of thes descendants of this man are enrolled as Choctaw) that might have been related to Sequoyah . . . but that relationship can’t be proven. This “Martin Gist” might have been a half-brother or nephew to Sequoyah . . . but as I said that can’t be proven and evidence is just circumstantial.
vance
February 12, 2005 at 7:35 am #22031My understanding of the Gen Joseph Martin/Susannah Chiles connection is this:
Susannah Chiles married Joseph Martin (senior)
They had a son, Gen Joseph Martin who married a few Cherokee women along with a white woman who accepted it as “business/politics” practices for an Indian Agent hahahhhaha (great excuse). Anyway, one of these women was Betsy Ward d.o. Nancy Ward “Beloved Women” (almost like a chief) of Cherokee tribe. Nancy Ward saved a white woman (? Bean) from burning at the stake and thus was on very good terms with white people. She introduced dairy/cattle to Cherokee, as well as slavery. She was quite well-to-do and quite powerful.
She is buried in Tennessee near Benton I believe and there is a school named after her as well as a Park and a memorial at her gravesite. I read all this online in a book that you can find on heritage Quest (I’ll get the name of it if you want.
Anyway, Susannah Chiles had a grand niece that married Micajah Clark Moorman. Notice, too, that she is descended (if we can believe all this) from Manoah Chiles……I’ll give you the link in the next reply, since I don’t want to lose what I just wrote.
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