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Linda,
In your previous post you mentioned:
“I have a friend with the Pinson line in WV who knows of Indian roots. Clay is a strong name in old Indian families in Mecklenburg, VA, in old Saponi haunts.”
How would I get this Pinson information?
Thanks for yor help.
Debi
The old Saponi haunt I’m referring to would be the general vicinity of Fort Christanna, which was in Brunswick County, VA.
Contact Patrick Pinson at Cedar Mountain Drums, http://www.cedarmtndrums.com. (He also makes great hoop drums.)
Debi wrote: Linda,
Where do I find out about my SE NA family Surnames and what they possibly were?
Family names are:
Collins, Goins,Pinson,Clay,Damron, Martin and Napier
They were from VA/W.VA/NC…then spread over into TN and KY…….from there we are scattered to the 4 winds.
Thanks for your time,
Debi
PS.
My new e-mail address is:
what Napiers are you looking for Debi?
Sherry
Sherry,
This is the Napier family that I descend from. The information is a compilation of information from a few family members and what I have been able to find on my own. If you have anything to add or change, feel free. I can use all the help I can get. I have only been working on this side of th family for 2 years.
Descendants of Edmund Napier
1 Edmund Napier b: Abt. 1744 Albemarle, Virginia
.. +Sarah Corns b: Abt. 1748 Albemarle,Virginia m: Abt. 1773 in Kanawha co. Virginia
…… 2 Thomas Franklin Napier b: 28 Jun 1774 Virginia d: 1859 lick Creek, Wayne Co., W. V.
……….. +Haney “Henrietta” “Hannah” Smith b: 1778 Culpepper, Chesterfield Co.(Rockingham Co.), VA/Chesterfield Co., VA d: 1862 Wayne Co., W. VA m: 1800 in Kanawah Co. W.VA
…………… 3 Moses Franklin Napier b: 02 Mar 1807 Cove creek,Kanawha Co. Virginia d: 17 May 1884 Wayne Co. West Virginia
………………. +Vicey Adkins b: 09 Oct 1810 Cabell co, Virginia (now West Virginia) d: 20 Feb 1895 Wayne Co. West Virginia m: Mar 1826 in Cabell Co. VA
………………….. 4 Youngea Napier b: 15 Sep 1827 Cabell Co. Virginia (Now W.VA) d: 16 Aug 1913
………………………. +Elizabeth Wooten b: 29 Mar 1841 Kentucky or Cabell co VA d: 28 Nov 1925 m: 29 Aug 1860 in Wayne Co. WV
………………………….. 5 William Napier b: 19 Jun 1861 Cabell co, Virginia (Now W.VA) d: 14 Oct 1933 Wayne Co. Virginia (now W.VA)
……………………………… +Nancy
………………………….. 5 Alfred Napier b: 30 Dec 1862 Cabell co, Virginia (Now W.VA) d: Abt. 1865
………………………….. 5 Moses Napier b: 06 Dec 1864 Wayne Co. Virginia (now W.VA) d: 26 May 1882
……………………………… +Nancy Ellen Frasher b: 1865 d: 1954 m: 06 Apr 1882 in Wayne Co. WV
………………………….. 5 Linsey(Lindsey) Napier b: 02 Feb 1867 Wayne co, West Virginia d: 06 May 1945 Jacob W. Finley Cemetery Wayne co WV
……………………………… +Perlina (Paulina) Finley b: Oct 1860 West Virginia
………………………….. 5 Vicy Jane Napier b: 09 Nov 1869 Wayne Co. Virginia (now W.VA) d: 23 Nov 1912 Albert J Frasher Family Cemetery Lick creek Wayne co WV
……………………………… +Jimison Frasher b: 1859 d: 1928 m: 31 Jul 1883 in Wayne Co. WV
………………………….. 5 Tennessee Napier b: 18 Mar 1872 Wayne Co. Virginia (now W.VA)
………………………….. 5 Maggie Napier b: 09 Oct 1874 Wayne Co. Virginia (now W.VA)
………………………….. 5 Naomi Napier b: 02 Mar 1877 Wayne Co WV
………………………….. 5 youngey(a) Napier b: 27 Jun 1880 Wayne Co. Virginia (now W.VA) d: 07 Mar 1957 Wayne Co WV
………………………….. 5 Sherman Napier b: 21 Nov 1882 Wayne Co WV
……………………………… +Selena Adkins
………………………….. 5 Elizabeth Napier b: 28 Apr 1885 lick Creek ,Wayne co WV d: 28 Apr 1916 Beech Hill, Mason co.WV
………………….. 4 Hannah Napier b: Abt. 1830 Cabell co, Virginia (Now W.VA)
………………….. 4 Margaret “Peggy”Napier b: Dec 1834 Cabell co, Virginia (Now W.VA)
………………………. +William David Frasher Jr. b: 1829 d: 1913 m: 11 Mar 1852 in Wayne Co. WV
………………….. 4 Mary Jane Napier b: Abt. 1837 Cabell co, Virginia (Now W.VA)
………………….. 4 Haney Napier b: Abt. 1839 Cabell co, Virginia (Now W.VA)
………………….. 4 Christina Napier b: Abt. 1841 Cabell co, Virginia (Now W.VA)
…………… 3 Edmond Napier b: 1810 Virginia d: 27 Nov 1863
………………. +Ella Watts b: Abt. 1809
…………… 3 Hannah Napier b: Abt. 1811
…………… 3 William Napier b: 03 Aug 1812 Wayne Co. West Virginia
………………. +Nancy Margaret Queen b: 1818 m: 16 Dec 1836
…………… 3 Patrick Hughes Napier b: 1810 Wayne Co. Virginia d: Abt. 1874 Wayne Co. Virginia (now W.VA)
………………. +Perlina Watts
…………… 3 Henrietta ” Haney” Napier b: 13 Dec 1819 Wayne Co., VA (now W.VA) d: 05 Mar 1856 Wayne Co., VA (now W.VA)
………………. +Covington Collinsworth m: 31 Jul 1835 in Cabell Co. VA
…………… 3 Margaret “Peggy” Napier b: Abt. 1818 Cabell co, Virginia (Now W.VA)
…………… 3 Sarah “Sally” Napier b: Abt. 1820 Wayne Co. Virginia (now W.VA)
…………… 3 Robert Napier b: 06 May 1824 Wayne Co. W.Virginia d: 01 Aug 1903 Wayne Co., W VA
…………… 3 Adam Napier b: 25 Jul 1826 Wayne Co. West Virginia d: 01 Nov 1908 Community Memorial Gardens
………………. +Susannah Finley b: 1829 d: 1901 m: 1845
…………… 3 Hezekiah Napier b: 1832
…… 2 Edmond Napier b: Abt. 1772 Virginia
…… 2 Patrick Napier b: Abt. 1770 Virginia
BlackVelvet wrote: How does one find the Southeastern American Indian Family Surnames list?
I may have over looked this, but did I miss the answer to this question? I start off looking for one thing, then before I know it I am off on another trail.
Amy,
Linda is referring to a list that Richard Haithcock put together some years ago. I will see if it is in the first book he published…. I have a copy. If it is, then I will make a copy of the list and run it over to you….. after we get back from Sunday’s powwow…. one afternoon next week.
I don’t know if I’m posting in the right place, but I am researching/looking for my Native American ancestors. Some of my ancestors names are:
Boling/Bowling/Bolin, etc.
Pennington
Cornett
Sizemore
Roberts
Couch
Combs
Burns
Adkins
Jordan
Senters/Centers
Clifton
Ratcliffe
Ratliff
More later: can’t remember them all.
As far as the Adkins go (from both posts above), a definite Shawnee connecction is there & possibly goes back to the Powhatan…possibly the Pamunkey, but not knowing who William Adkins parents were at this time, makes it merely speculatory. However it is felt that a Jamestown connection is likely.
All the Adkins in Wayne Co. are descendants of William Adkins/Elizabeth Parker.
Nothing on the Napiers (called “Napper” by the Wayne Co. locals ) to indicate anything native. Not saying there isn’t, but nothing concrete to grab onto at this time. However they are another major family in Wayne Co. W.V. along with the Ratcliff family.
As far as the Sizemore line, there is enough evidence to “believe” that there was/is an Adkins connection. As far as determining who exactly had a child with Mary Alice Sizemore is speculative at best. But another Wm. Adkins descendant did marry a grand-daughter of hers, which leads to the belief that because of M.A. Sizemore having a child with the Adkins name, and the location, that there was (most likely) an Adkins who was the father. Thus yet another Shawnee connection.
This is all being pretty heavily researched at the time, along with many other western W.V. (Wayne, Cabell, Logan, primarily)/eastern Ky. (along the Big Sandy region) families. Heavily connected, as it appears they all traveled to the same areas when researching records from Va., W.V., and Ky.
I am related to most, if not (by now) all, of Wayne Co. and nearby counties, and over into the Big Sandy region. As would be anyone who descends from the Adkins. Every other maternal line I descend from ties into the Adkins line in some way, and more leads to other families left to be verfied.
Bowling (and its many variations) is the most obvious surname to have saponi/powhatan connections. Search this site for a plethora of info on this surname.
Debi,
I don’t know about Albemarle VA Napiers, but there are Nappers out of Louisa County VA that claim Indian ancestry. A branch of that family ended up in Ohio and claim to be Cherokee.
Search Napper under the geneology forum, and you’ll find more on that.
Hello Dakota,
I have Sizemore and Roberts ancestors- which ones are you looking for? I actually have double Roberts , even though NC stated my Roberts ( see the avatar, my grgrgranmaw Ussley Roberts) belonged to them i.e. Cherokee, my research has led me to believe more likely remnant Tuscarora ( thru Cheraw). My line of Sizemore has tested NA thru DNA which in itself is interesting because it was a male line. If you give me some given names I can see what I have, but the best researcher for Sizemores is Joy King you can get info on her at this website:
http://jgoins.com/janetpicpage.htm
see the link below for some Sizemore family information including the DNA results
http://www.geocities.com/ourmelungeons/genealogy.html
Also, Starr this would be a good site for you to visit.
Hi!I am so excited that my typing may really bite, please forgive me!
My Name is Sandra F. Collins, call me Sandie
I will start with my paternal family names and dates, locations when know. I will probably do a few separate posts over the next few days so please forgive me if this is difficult.
Starting with My Father, Jack L. Collins b 18 Aug 1929 mccvay Ky, died 10 July 1993 Lexington Ky.
Lawrence “Bozo” Collins b. 180jan 1907 richmond va dd. sep. 1975 Wyandotte, Mi.
M. to Polly Ann Adams b.18 dec 1906 E. Whitesberg Ky.
Son of Martin “Mark” Collins, b.1859 Ky died btwn 1916-1920 with wife in a buggy accident, location unknown.
m. Martha Banks b. aug 1889/91
Son of Elbe Collins b. jan 1822 hancock co, tn d 1905 Floyd co ky
m.Kate Gibson b 1822 Tn
son od Allen Collins b 1802 tn
m Rachel Reed
son of Vardy Collins 1764 Grayson co. Va
m Margaret “spanish Peggy” Gibson
son of Samuel Collins son of Thomas Collins.
Next visit I wil follow the Banks, Adams, Cooks,Whittakers, Harris, Clays McCubbins Roarke etc.
Please feel free to communicate, Sandie
Welcome Sandie. My ggg grandmother Sallie Ray Harris (She was Indian we believe Occaneechi) lived with a Allen Collins his wife Elizabeth Collins, Nancy Strayhorn, and James and Nannie Whitakers. This was according to the 1860 census of Orange County North Carolina. I wonder if there is any relation to your surnames? I just went to the Harris reunion this past sunday looking for clues on Sallie Harris.
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