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Hi, thanks for writing, I have quite a few whittakers down the line, as of yet I have not found a wife by the name of Elizabeth living with Allen Collins but I will be on the look out ! have a great day! Sandie
Linda,
Do you know if Amos Collins, or John Collins are on any Indian roll? and is John, Amos ‘es son
Steve-o wrote: As far as the Adkins go (from both posts above), a definite Shawnee connecction is there & possibly goes back to the Powhatan…possibly the Pamunkey, but not knowing who William Adkins parents were at this time, makes it merely speculatory. However it is felt that a Jamestown connection is likely.
All the Adkins in Wayne Co. are descendants of William Adkins/Elizabeth Parker.
Nothing on the Napiers (called “Napper” by the Wayne Co. locals ) to indicate anything native. Not saying there isn’t, but nothing concrete to grab onto at this time. However they are another major family in Wayne Co. W.V. along with the Ratcliff family.
As far as the Sizemore line, there is enough evidence to “believe” that there was/is an Adkins connection. As far as determining who exactly had a child with Mary Alice Sizemore is speculative at best. But another Wm. Adkins descendant did marry a grand-daughter of hers, which leads to the belief that because of M.A. Sizemore having a child with the Adkins name, and the location, that there was (most likely) an Adkins who was the father. Thus yet another Shawnee connection.
This is all being pretty heavily researched at the time, along with many other western W.V. (Wayne, Cabell, Logan, primarily)/eastern Ky. (along the Big Sandy region) families. Heavily connected, as it appears they all traveled to the same areas when researching records from Va., W.V., and Ky.
I am related to most, if not (by now) all, of Wayne Co. and nearby counties, and over into the Big Sandy region. As would be anyone who descends from the Adkins. Every other maternal line I descend from ties into the Adkins line in some way, and more leads to other families left to be verfied.
Tracing the Adkins line is difficult at best. It goes everywhere and nowhere at the same time. But it is neat to know that Chief Hokoleska may be a great(xn)grandfather. I personally have 3 different Adkins lines intersecting with my family both on the maternal side and paternal side. I think Parker V. Adkins is supposedly the father of Littleberry Adkins son of Bluesky, (daughter of Chief Hokoleska i.e. Cornstalk)
I got you beat on how many times I descend from the Adkins…last count…7 times from the same line, due to intermarriage. They had a pentiant for marrying their cousins. All trace back to William & Elizabeth Parker Adkins (My great grandmother was an Adkins descendant as well as my great grandfather). Some say this is hogwash, but I traced 200+ Adkins marriages in Wayne Co. WVa. and they all, wives and husbands, are William & Elizabeth’s descendants. One writing stated there were 11 different lines of Adkins in the county which is totally false.
From what I have dug up in records and writings over the years, there is no “supposidly” about Little Berry being the son of Parker. And it appears that most of the Adkins lines in Va.& WVa. all connect to William Adkins (Eliz. Parker). Their (Adkins family) migration can be traced from the James river to western WVa./eastern Ky. Hints to them being in Jamestown are out there, but nothing confirmed.
So the Adkins related to Cornstalk came from eastern VA? A Chickahominy Adkins? From a family that migrated to eastern KY and hooked up with Cornstalk? Wasn’t he Shawnee? Is that what you’re saying?
I think they were located in mid VA and Parker V. was one of those people who went west and claimed land as was going on then. While he was off doing his thing he apparently hooked up with Cornstalk’s daughter and had a son named LittleBerry. I’m sure his wife (Mary Adkins) was not happy about this turn of events. Now, oddly enough there is a man named Little Berry Adkins buried in the Chickahominy Cemetary. Is there any connection? I don’t know, but obviously from the date he is not the same LittleBerry. It’s one of the great things about trying to trace the Adkins line. Oh, and yes Chief Cornstalk was Shawnee. Wasn’t Kentucky originally part of the incredibly large territory of VA? Parker V. Adkins was not an indian but a white man. At least that is what I believe though I have no proof one way or another.
lomonvm;263 wrote:
My Surnames are, Simon and Osborn Jeffreys, Hill, Norfleet, Rhodes, Walker,Chisholm, Ryves,Chism, Green, Thomas, Brown, Davis, Martin, Webb, Nordin, Fuller, Carroll, Daniel, Webb, Mathews, Emmons, Grubbs, Bennett, Mayes, Laymon or Lehmann, Reeves, Green, Ford, Maxey, Lewallen, Walden, Rhodes, Spear, Cotton, Blair,Harrell, etc.
Harrell, Cotton and Llewellyn are ancestors names in my g-grandmother Maude Marshall’s line.
lomonvm;263 wrote: Hello, I posted a query last year, and forgot how to get back to it, so this time is someone replys please email me at lomon@csweb.net
I know I have to be saponi indian, my family compared to pictures of Saponi descendants share the same features.
My Surnames are, Simon and Osborn Jeffreys, Hill, Norfleet, Rhodes, Walker,Chisholm, Ryves,Chism, Green, Thomas, Brown, Davis, Martin, Webb, Nordin, Fuller, Carroll, Daniel, Webb, Mathews, Emmons, Grubbs, Bennett, Mayes, Laymon or Lehmann, Reeves, Green, Ford, Maxey, Lewallen, Walden, Rhodes, Spear, Cotton, Blair,Harrell, etc.
My Daniel surname originated from Bruinswick county, NC. Edward Daniel he migrated to Henry and Patrick and Grayson county, Va. He was around the Goins or Goings family a lot.
The Goinstown Indians. Edward migrated to Grainger county, Tn. he died there in 1830, some say he was mulungeon. In which he intermarried into the saponi race. But we only know his wife’s first name Anne.
He was born about 1775 t0 1776, Edward had a sister named Esther who married Philemon Lacy, Most of Edward Daniel’s children married in to the Henry Mayes and Pheobe Harrell Family.
How would I go about finding if they were a part of the Haliwa Saponi indian tribe?
Please email me at lomon@csweb.net I am not to good with the message board ?
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MarcSnelling;37467 wrote: Harrell, Cotton and Llewellyn are ancestors names in my g-grandmother Maude Marshall’s line.
MarcSnelling, this is Bob Woolery. I live in MO. I’m more interested in your Snelling family name. how much do you know about this family lineage? Thanks, and have a great day.
cherosage;38358 wrote: MarcSnelling, this is Bob Woolery. I live in MO. I’m more interested in your Snelling family name. how much do you know about this family lineage? Thanks, and have a great day.
Hi Bob,
My Snelling name is from my father’s side and isn’t a Saponi line. Snell=fast in Dutch. My father emmigrated from Southern England in the 60s and I can trace the line back to the 1500s in southeast England. DNA shows all my living relatives on that side are in England or Australia. I have seen the name in research – but it is not connected to my line. There is also no connection from my line to Fort Snelling – site of the 1862 mass hanging of Dakota people.
peace
-Marc
A lot of the names are posted on the home pages of the Saponi Nations.
Where do I find out about my SE NA family Surnames and what they possibly were?
Family names are:
Collins, Goins,Pinson,Clay,Damron, Martin and Napier
They were from VA/W.VA/NC…then spread over into TN and KY…….from there we are scattered to the 4 winds.
Thanks for your time,
Debi
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My new e-mail address is:
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mskimmy;38402 wrote: A lot of the names are posted on the home pages of the Saponi Nations.
Where do I find out about my SE NA family Surnames and what they possibly were?
Family names are:
Collins, Goins,Pinson,Clay,Damron, Martin and Napier
They were from VA/W.VA/NC…then spread over into TN and KY…….from there we are scattered to the 4 winds.
Thanks for your time,
Debi
PS.
My new e-mail address is:
Any of those surnames and locations have a good probability of being Va/NC mixed-bloods. Use the search feature for your surnames. There are massive amounts of info already posted at Saponitown on most of these surnames. Please post your specific lines so we can help.
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