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I found a book in my local library that mentions the Tuckwoghs. The title of it is
The Conquest of Virginia
The Forest Primeval
An account, Based on original Documents, of the
Indians in that portion of the Continent
in which was established the first
English Colony in America.
By
Conway Whittle Sams, B.L.
Published by G.P.Putnam”s Sons
New York and London
The Knickerbocket Press
1916
It mentions many tribes in Virginia but I’ll just cover the Tuckwoghs. Page 269. The extent of Powhatan”s dominions is thus defined by Starchey:
” The greatness and bounds of whose empire, by reason of his powerfulness and ambition in his youth, hath larger limits than ever had any of his predecessors in former times, for he seems to command south and north from the Man-go-a-ges and Chaw-o-noaks bordering upon Roanoke, and the Old Virginia, to Tock-wogh, a town palisadoed, standing at the north end of the bay,( speaking of the Chesapeake Bay) in fourty degress or thereabouts:southwest to An-0-eg, whose houses are built as ours, ten days distant from us, from whence those Wer-o-ances sent unto him of their commodities; as We i-nock a servant, in whom Powhatan reposed much trust, would tell our elder planters and could repeat many words of their language he had learned among them in his employment thither for his king, and whence he often returned, full of presents, to powhatan; west to Mon-a-has-sa-nugh, which stands at the foot of the mountains( blue ridge) norwest to the borders of Mas-sa-wo-meck and boc-oo-taw-won-ough, his enemies; nor-east and by east to Ac-co-ha-nock, ac-cow-mack, and some other petty nations, lying on the east side of our bay.
page 371, The mas-sa-wo-mecks. Starchey thus describes this tribe:
: Beyond the mountains, from whence is the head of the river Patomac, do inhabit the Mas-sa-wo-mecks ( Powhatan”s yet mortal enemies) upon a great salt water, which by all likelihood may either be some part of Canada, some great lake, or some inlet of some sea, that may fall into the west ocean or Mar del sur. These Mas-sa-wo-mecks are a great nation, and very populous, for the inhabitants of the heads of all those rivers, especially the Pa-taw-o-mecks, the Paw-tux-unts, the Sas-ques-a-han-oughes, the Tock-woghs, are continually harbored and frightened by them, of whose cruelty the said people generally complained, and were very importunate with Captain Smith, and his company, in the time of their discovery, to free them from those tormentors, to which purpose they offered food, conduct, assistants, and continual subjection, which were motives sufficient for Captain Smith to promise to return with sufficient forces to constrain the said Mas-sa-wo-mecks; but there were in the Colony at that time such factions and base envies, as malice in some, in some cases ignorance, and cowardice in others, made that opportunity to be lost.
further down on this page it states that toward the North the Tock- woghes, who lived in a strongly fortified town, on a river of that name, now called the Chester, and the At-quan-a-chuks, who lived in Deleware.
Originally posted by Lee Harkrader
Totero Town know Radford Va this is were i live been here all
my life the railroad follows the New River through here into
West Va. my Damron ‘s were in Mingo and Wayne Co. Wv. has
well has Floyd Co KY on the Big Sandy River and alot of them
still live there just had the annual Damron reuion in Wayne Co
WV.
Lee
Hello, Lee,
My folks are all from the area of old Logan, now Mingo County, WV along the Tug River and I’ve heard ad seen the name Damron a lot while looking for my own lines of Steele/Hatfield/Maynard-Manor/Shortridge/Vance/Moore/Mounts/Chafin/Ferrell/Francisco/
Duty/Hall/White/Runyan/Varney. etc. I don’t recall a Damron in my direct line, but if your people were in that area, then we have to be related somewhere along the line somehow!
My Great- Grandfather Thomas Moore lived at Devon, mouth of Beech Creek, and worked for N & W Railroad at Thacker nearby. He died in 1925. I know he was born in KY, but have had no luck tracing his family at all. My Grandpa Harrison Steele of Beech Creek worked at the Thacker Station for awhile as a young man. Grandpa Harry was the one who carried the family stories of Blackfoot and Cherokee ancestors. The Steeles came into Logan County from Tazewell and Russell early on. My paternal line, Ferrell, were among the first in the area–Matewan is old Ferrelltown-as was David Mounts and Peter Cline on Grandpa Harry’s side. I have been curious about Radford and the New River area and the families that came into Logan from that location. I would someday like to nail down the ancestors of David Mounts. He married Peggy Cline, Peter’s daughter, in 1809 near there and James Addair, in the area by 1773, operated a feerry near Radford. This Addair family has an oral tradition of Indian ancestry, too.
Nice to meet you!
Originally posted by Linda
It is interesting. I still suspiscion it’s a variant of Tutelo. It’s quite possible that the second t was a more gutteral sound, and the l was more an r sound, causing lots of confusion in the way English speakers mangled it.
Could be…. I’m getting the idea that there isn’t a lot of firm info. about the Tockwoghs…Johnston’s HISTORY OF CECIL COUNTY mentions them briefly since they were in that area. He classifyes the Massawomekes as probably Iroquioan and related somehow to the competing Susquehannocks, misclassifies the Minquas as a subdivison of the Leni Lenape, and says of the Tockwoghs, “…of a more gentle desposition probably belonged to the Algonquin or Muscogee stock.” Sounds to me like no one really knew when he wrote his book in 1881….. Were the Muscogee all from the south??? The Tockwoghs Fort is said to be a few miles above the mouth of Sassafrass River.
The Big Sandy/ Tug River was also known as the Shaterras, Chatteroy, etc., other variants of Totteroy, Tutelo, I think…
Brenda
Brenda
I am sorry i did not answer you back on this post it is indeed
good to meet you my 4th grandfather Lazarus Damron had two
sister who married Maynards.
And looking at your surnames the Damrons are related one way
or the other with them Lazarus is buried in Wayne Co around
1820.
Also the Damrons hold there yearly reunion in the Cabwaylingo
State Forest Wayne Co WV which is a week long event and
most of these surnames do attend this reunion it is held in
August so if you are out that way do drop by.
Lee
I was just reading were Tuckahoe was originally spelled Tockawhougha. Not a far stretch from Tockwoghs.
Brenda Ferrell Sampsel wrote: Hello, Lee,
My folks are all from the area of old Logan, now Mingo County, WV along the Tug River and I’ve heard ad seen the name Damron a lot while looking for my own lines of Steele/Hatfield/Maynard-Manor/Shortridge/Vance/Moore/Mounts/Chafin/Ferrell/Francisco/
Duty/Hall/White/Runyan/Varney. etc. I don’t recall a Damron in my direct line, but if your people were in that area, then we have to be related somewhere along the line somehow!
My Great- Grandfather Thomas Moore lived at Devon, mouth of Beech Creek, and worked for N & W Railroad at Thacker nearby. He died in 1925. I know he was born in KY, but have had no luck tracing his family at all. My Grandpa Harrison Steele of Beech Creek worked at the Thacker Station for awhile as a young man. Grandpa Harry was the one who carried the family stories of Blackfoot and Cherokee ancestors. The Steeles came into Logan County from Tazewell and Russell early on. My paternal line, Ferrell, were among the first in the area–Matewan is old Ferrelltown-as was David Mounts and Peter Cline on Grandpa Harry’s side. I have been curious about Radford and the New River area and the families that came into Logan from that location. I would someday like to nail down the ancestors of David Mounts. He married Peggy Cline, Peter’s daughter, in 1809 near there and James Addair, in the area by 1773, operated a feerry near Radford. This Addair family has an oral tradition of Indian ancestry, too.
Nice to meet you!
I have a David Cecil Mounts b: 1785 Montgomery, VA, d: 1852 Logan, WVA who married Margaret “Peggy” Cline b: 1794 Montgomery, VA d: 1880 Logan, WVA
daughter of Peter Cline (b: 1756, Germany d:1840 Mingo, WVA) and Elizabeth “Lizzy” Riffe (b: 1750 Montgomery, VA d:1840, Mingo, WVA)
Children of David Cecil Mounts and Peggy Cline are:
Elijah 1809-1890
Charles 1810-
Jane 1819-
Michael 1820-1879
Nancy 1820-
Peter C 1821-
Edna 1823-
Alexander 1824-
Jackson 1826-
Elizabeth 1829-1922
Martha 1830-
Sarah Sally 1832-1876
Parents I have for David Cecil Mounts are John Lawrence Mounts b: 1749, VA and Elizabeth Raincrow b: 1767?
I am related to David Cecil Mounts by his son, Charles who married Mary Ann Spratt; he is my 5th great grandfather.
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