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November 25, 2003 at 8:30 pm #8557
Tom, I am doing research about this time frame and his name comes up over and over! I’ll get a link from the internet to you in the next few days if you are interested in looking up this fella. He translated between Watts and Blount. As a translater, in those days, his work was very important, because a slight mistake might have dire consequences.
Blount made the Cherokees sign over lots of land and then used this as a ploy to make the Younger Cherokees upset at their elders, saying “Well your fathers signed away this land, get mad at them, not us, for settlin’ on it!”
Tom, there is a small town in the southwestern part of my home county called “Olustee, Oklahoma.” 🙂 I have no idea conserning of the origin of the name of the town, however.
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November 25, 2003 at 8:30 pm #8563Hello Bill, and all, well the folks that I descend from all moved into Wi from Indiana, but there are others from the same line , I believe that John Williams was one of them and really any of the Carey family aswell the Hardins, but at this time I need to look at the family records for sure, but I believe John Williams would interest me.
On one of our families death records they list John as the father to Martha Williams, later she married Jeremiah Groat in Iowa, but no mention of her mother.
That side of the family are the ones that lived on the rez, in several areas, her son my G grandfather married a Blackfoot Cherokee woman,- the hardin line., but Marthas 2 surviving boy’s both looked like they were mixed blood people, the younger one Fred looked like he could have been more than half Indian in his early years. All of his descendants still look Indian, very tall and dark, if there is Indian people on Mathas side that would mean that both of my Grandmother’s parents were mixed and that has been presented several times.
I’d really like to know who Marthas mother was, there’s more ofcourse but that would be nice to know. Thank you for asking Bill, happy New year to all, Tom
November 25, 2003 at 8:30 pm #8655Hello Fellow Researchers,
Here are a couple of detailed blowups of Lewis Evans 1755 map showing the location os our Southern Siouan Ancestors.Also I saw in some other post in this forum some people were talking about the Tug Fork or the Big Sandy being called Totteroy. It is true that the Big Sandy was called Totteroy and was the location of the Tutelo circa 1699. My Blackfoot ancestors and allied/related families moved to (or back to?) this area circa 1820-1830. Also I am attaching a link about the Carmel Indians of Ohio. It shows these folks came from Magoffin County KY, and it my opinion that they people are Blackfoot/Southern Sioux in origin.
Charles
http://www.vcdh.virginia.edu/lewisandclark/encounter/projects/monacans/Documentary_Evidence/lemap.html
http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Inn/1024/carmel1/Carmel1.htm“>http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Inn/1024/carmel1/Carmel1.htm”>
http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Inn/1024/carmel1/Carmel1.htm
November 25, 2003 at 8:30 pm #8656Hello Fellow Researchers,
Here are a couple of detailed blowups of Lewis Evans 1755 map showing the location os our Southern Siouan Ancestors.Also I saw in some other post in this forum some people were talking about the Tug Fork or the Big Sandy being called Totteroy. It is true that the Big Sandy was called Totteroy and was the location of the Tutelo circa 1699. My Blackfoot ancestors and allied/related families moved to (or back to?) this area circa 1820-1830. Also I am attaching a link about the Carmel Indians of Ohio. It shows these folks came from Magoffin County KY, and it my opinion that they people are Blackfoot/Southern Sioux in origin.
Charles
http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Inn/1024/carmel1/Carmel1.htm
November 25, 2003 at 8:30 pm #8658Charles:
Thank you for the links. I tried both links and the first one worked. However, the second link did not work for me. I took the opportunity as moderator to try and edit your post, so that others could open the web site successfully, as I could see what the problem was, however, my edit only partially worked. So, for others trying to use the link, copy all the text after in the second link and then open a new browser window. Paste it into the address line of your browser and then it will work. Thanks for the links, Charles!
Cindy (techteach)
November 25, 2003 at 8:30 pm #8664Here is the correct link for the page and sorry about any problems.Also here is the detail of the Evans map for the area that is now Eastern Kentucky
Charles
http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Inn/1024/carmel1/Carmel1.htm
November 25, 2003 at 8:30 pm #8665Thanks for fixing this link, Charles. I have a couple of those names, a ggg-something-grandmother coming from somewhere nearby, I think, a Brown. I also have a ggg-something grandmother, McCarty, but she is from Central PA.
Cindy
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