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January 22, 2006 at 9:59 pm #2039
This is one of the NA families we are trying to confirm or debunk. Grandma Minta says we are Blackfoot. Knowing some of the LAND and TIME history, there’s no telling which NDN line we have. Can anyone help.
My Family:
Robert Clay b.1795 Va Married Sarah Setz(s)er b. 1820 NC
Araminta Clay b.1855 Floyd co. Ky married James Franklin Pinionb. 1844 Russel or Washington co VA (family legand of NA blood)(had pictures of family in regalia).
Thanks,
Debi
January 22, 2006 at 9:59 pm #18779Debi,
I think I can connect this line to the GOWN/GOIN families of Surry & Rockingham Co’s., NC and the adjacent Virginia counties.
I think I have found James F. Pinion/PENNION’s parents:
Thomas Pennion, b.abt. 1781 Surry Co., NC and
Martha “Patsey” GOWN (GOIN), b.abt. 1799 Patrick Co., Va,
on the 1850 Russell Co., Va Census listing James F. in their household.
Per that census, whose ‘Taker’ did us the favor of listing specific information about where they were born, they moved from Surry Co, NC to Grayson Co., Va to Washington Co., Va (only a couple of miles), where James F. was born.
I’ll post those specifics soon.
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p.s…. Robert CLAY and Sarah SETZER m’d 6 Sept 1845 in Floyd Co., Ky.
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Bill
January 22, 2006 at 9:59 pm #18789Hello Bill….:)
Thanks so much for the info. I’ll be waiting (im)patiently :):) for any other tidbits you throw my way.
I found a website that is devoted to Virginia maps starting in1776. It’s really cool. I have been going there and following the county line changes over the years. Also trying to read about what was going on at that time in history (local as well) so as to get a better grip on what was going on in the lives of our families.
Do you know of anyplace I can get hard copies of these maps???Would be cool to post them on the wall and “follow the trails”!
Take care and Thanks again,
Debi
January 22, 2006 at 9:59 pm #18806These Pinsons may not be the same family group, however, a lot of folks from SW VA went to Pike and maybe back and forth. The 1823 Pike list does have some interesting folks on it and is worth a look. Some names we are familiar with. Regrading Pinson, I have heard the story of Indian ancestors before from a Pinson descendant on another list.
Brenda
“…Pinson, Aaron
Pinson, Allen
Pinson, Allen
Pinson, Henry
Pinson, Jarrott
Pinson, John
Pinson, Thomas
Pinson, William”
http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ky/pike/taxes/1823-pt2.txt
January 22, 2006 at 9:59 pm #18810Hi Brenda…
Thanks for the website link. I think I found 2or3 possible family members, Pinson/Damron…..Just one more tidbit to add and research. The link to NA on the Pinion/Pinson/pennion side, “I think”, came in from either the Gown/Goin/Gowen or Clay/Setzer. I still in the process of trying to make a positive connection. I also have NA stories from the Collins/Damron side of the family…….One thing at a time though…:)Thanks again!
Debi
January 22, 2006 at 9:59 pm #18812Your welcome, Debi. When you get around to it, I think I saw some posts on this site on Damrons. Maybe Aggie Owl???? I noted the name because it is another one from my area of Mingo/Logan Co. VA/WV & Pike Co. KY. Actually, you could add Lawrence & Floyd KY & McDowell & Wyoming WV to my areas of interest….. I know I see a lot of Damron posts in Logan Co. WV.
Brenda
January 22, 2006 at 9:59 pm #18819Depending on which area of Ky we’re looking at, DAMRON is also DAMERON and DAMERAN, sometimes with a double “m” , but have always appeared to be the same family line.
Bill
January 22, 2006 at 9:59 pm #18820Felicia’s Blackfoot are Clays. Their story is that they went to upstate New York and came back to the VA border, which is interesting considering that’s the most documented place the Saponi migrated to. I’ve heard stories of Tuscarora people who went to NY and then came back to NC.
January 22, 2006 at 9:59 pm #18822The Floyd Co., Ky CLAYs can be taken back into 1790s and 1780s Halifax Co., Va., CLAYs, MORRISONs, PORTERs and earlier into deeper Culpepper/Amelia/Orange Co, Va., CLAYs, WILSONs, JAMES, NICHOLSs – it can be a bit frustrating, but one step and piece of information at a time, we’ll put all the pieces of the puzzle together.
Bill
January 22, 2006 at 9:59 pm #188411790 tax list for Surry County, NC,
Captain Lovill’s District:
Pinson, Richard 100 ac., 1 poll
Pinson, Thomas 100 ac., 1 poll
Pinson, William No land, 1 poll
Pinson, Reuben 100 ac., 1 poll
http://www.ls.net/~newriver/nc/surry1790tl.htm
January 22, 2006 at 9:59 pm #18853Hey all!!!..:)
Boy have you all been busy…just a swarm of information! I’ll go back and try to make the connections on each of the families then let you all know what I find.These families just seem to move all around the 3 corners…NC,VA,KY
Thank you all so very much for your efforts. 🙂 I feel like I’ve just slid into the fast track here!
Debi
January 22, 2006 at 9:59 pm #18854The information I have on DAMRON…
Minerva J Damron b. 1888 Logan Co. WV
Married to Alfred W. Napier b. 1885 Wayne Co WV
Minerva’s father was Stephen and his mother was Polly? don’t really have much info on them.
Debi
January 22, 2006 at 9:59 pm #18855Descendants of Charles Clay Sr.
This is my CLAY line…hope it helps..:)
1 Charles Clay Sr. b: 1638 Charles City Co. VA d: 01 Jun 1686 Henrico Co. VA
.. +Hannah Wilson b: 1642 Henrico Co. VA d: Bef. 02 Aug 1706
Henrico Co. VA m: 1663 in Henrico Co. VA b: 1642 in Henrico Co. VA d: Bef. 02 Aug 1706 in Henrico Co. VA
…… 2 Charles Clay b: Abt. 1675 Chesterfield Co. VA d: Abt. 1765 b: Abt. 1675 in Chesterfield Co. VA d: Abt. 1765
……….. +Sarah m: Abt. 1710 in Henrico Co. VA
…………… 3 Thomas Clay b: 1713 Chesterfield Co. VA d: 1791 b: 1713 in Chesterfield Co. VA d: 1791
………………. +Ann Powell
………………….. 4 Caleb Clay Sr. b: 1743 Amelia/Halifax Co. VA d: 1786 b: 1743 in Amelia/Halifax Co. VA d: 1786
………………………….. 5 Soloman Clay b: 1770 Halifax Co. VA d: 1866 Floyd Co.KY
……………………………… +Mary “Polly” Hancock
…………………………………. 6 Robert Clay b: 1795 Virginia d: Aft. 1885 Floyd co. Kentucky b: 1795 in Virginia
……………………………………… +Sarah Elizabeth Setzer b: 1820 North Carolina d: 1880 Floyd Co.KY m: 06 Sep 1845 in Floyd Co.,KY
…………………………………………. 7 Jane Margarette Clay b: 1846 d: 24 Mar 1878 b: 1846 d: 24 Mar 1878
……………………………………………… +John M. Adams b: 22 Jul 1867 b: 22 Jul 1867
…………………………………………. 7 Julianne Clay b: 1849 b: 1849
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Arminta Ethel Clay b: 20 Jul 1855 Floyd Co.KY d: 22 Dec 1945 Floyd Co.KY
……………………………………………… +James Franklin Pinion b: 15 May 1844 Washington Co.. VA, Roanoke. area d: 27 Jan 1935 Floyd Co.KY m: 13 Jan 1874 in Floyd Co.,KY
…………………………………………. 7 Jefferson D. Clay b: Apr 1861 d: 05 Jun 1912
…………………………………………. 7 [1] Polly Clay b: Mar 1863 d: 1952
……………………………………………… +George Robinette
…………………………………………. *2nd Husband of [1] Polly Clay:
……………………………………………… +Daniel K. Wireman Sr.
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John Clay b: 29 Feb 1868 b: 29 Feb 1868
……………………………………………… +Martha Hite
…………………………………. 6 Elizabeth Betty Clay b: 1818 Patrick Co. Virginia
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+Joseph Maynard b: 1824 Pike Co. KY m: 28 Sep 1848 in Floyd Co.,KY b: 1824 in Pike Co. KY
…………………………………. 6
Martha Patsy Clay
January 22, 2006 at 9:59 pm #18856I don’t have any information before Jonathan Wilson…sorry..:(
Descendants of Jonathan Wilson
1 [1] Jonathan Wilson b: 1785 Montgomery Co. VA d: 1850 Warren Co. KY
.. +Rhoda Taylor m: 18 Feb 1807 in Montgomery Co. VA
*2nd Wife of [1] Jonathan Wilson:
.. +Caty Graville (Graybill) b: 1795 Wythe Co. VA or Warren Co. KY d: Abt. 1820 Warren Co. KY m: 25 Jun 1814 in Warren Co KY
…… 2 Margaret Wilson b: 1816 b: 1816
…… 2 Bluford Wilson b: 09 Apr 1819 Warren Co. KY d: 05 Sep 1906
Warren Co. KY
……….. +Ruth Haines b: 24 Mar 1824 d: 28 Jun 1903 Warren Co. KY m: 26 Jul 1844 in Warren Co KY b: 24 Mar 1824 d: 28 Jun 1903 in Warren Co. KY
…………… 3 George Washington Wilson b: 29 Dec 1854 Warren co.Kentucky d: 15 Jul 1924 Warren co.Kentucky
………………. +LuVinia Lewis b: 19 Sep 1854 Warren co.Kentucky d: 06 Feb 1912 Warren co.Kentucky m: 01 Dec 1874
………………….. 4 Frank Wilson
………………….. 4 Nealie C. Wilson b: Warren Co. KY d: 25 Mar 1888 Warren Co. KY
………………….. 4 Charlie Wilson b: 21 Oct 1875 Warren Co. KY d: 25 Dec 1939 Warren Co. KY
………………….. 4 Robert N. Wilson b: Jun 1877 b: Jun 1877
………………….. 4 Hugh Alexander Wilson b: 23 Feb 1880 Bowling Green (Anna), Kentucky d: 12 Jun 1947 Dayton Tennessee
………………………. +LouElla Clark b: 04 Jul 1883 Pikeville Tennessee (Bledsoe co.)
………………….. 4 George H. Wilson b: Apr 1884 b: Apr 1884
………………….. 4 John Bluford Wilson b: 02 Mar 1891 Bowling Green (Anna), Kentucky d: 14 Mar 1965 Dayton Tennessee
………………………. +Effie Mae Kaylor b: 19 Apr 1907 Dayton Tennessee d: 09 Oct 1970 Dayton Tennessee m: 11 Jun 1922
………………….. 4 Edward Allen Wilson b: 30 Mar 1897 Bowling Green (Anna), Kentucky d: 10 Jun 1958 Dayton Tennessee
*3rd Wife of [1] Jonathan Wilson:
.. +Nancy Harrell b: 1800 Warren Co. KY m: 06 Jun 1821 in Warren Co KY b: 1800 in Warren Co. KY
*4th Wife of [1] Jonathan Wilson:
.. +Eliza Hack b: 1805 Warren Co. KY m: 08 Feb 1833 in Warren Co KY b: 1805 in Warren Co. KY
Debi
January 22, 2006 at 9:59 pm #18858I don’t have much on the COLLINS line but I’ll sharewhat I have….:)
Descendants of Rhesa “Reese” Collins
1 Rhesa “Reese” Collins b: Abt. 1775 Frederick Co. Maryland d: Abt. 1835 Floyd Co. KY
.. +Mary Brooke b: 1777 Frederick Co. Maryland d: Abt. 1835 Floyd Co. KY m: 1798 in Frederick Co. Maryland
…… 2 John Collins b: 1804 Maryland d: Floyd Co. KY
……….. +Emaline Jane Gobble b: 1826 Washington Co. VA d: Aft. 1900 Floyd Co. KY m: 08 Jan 1846 in Floyd co KY.
…………… 3 [1] Jacob B. Collins b: 1850 Floyd Co. Ky. d: 23 Jun 1920 Floyd Co. Ky.
………………. +Sarah Skeens b: 1863 Williamson W. Va.
………………….. 4 Emily ” Emma” Ellen Collins b: 17 Jun 1890 Floyd Co.KY d: 27 Apr 1983 Peebles ,Ohio
………………………. +Malcolm Elijah Pinion b: 24 Sep 1883 Kentucky d: 10 Dec 1971 Peebles ,Ohio m: 05 May 1908 in Kentucky
…………… *2nd Wife of [1] Jacob B. Collins:
………………. +Mary Pricey Justice b: 1852 Floyd Co. KY
………………….. 4 Francis L. Collins
………………….. 4 Mary R. Collins Collins b: 1874
………………….. 4 James Collins b: 1875
………………….. 4 Hawkins Collins b: 20 Feb 1876
………………….. 4 Frank Collins b: 1880
………………….. 4 George Collins b: 04 Jul 1882
………………….. 4 Charley Collins b: 1884
…………… 3 Alsey Collins
…………… 3 James C. Collins b: 15 Sep 1855
…………… 3 Arminta Collins b: 1856
…………… 3 Sylvester Collins b: 08 May 1859
…… 2 Anna Collins b: 1801
…… 2 Sarah Collins b: 1802
…… 2 Christopher Columbus Collins b: 1807
…… 2 William Collins b: 1809
…… 2 Senah Collins b: 1815
…… 2 Isaac Collins b: 1816
Debi
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