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February 6, 2006 at 10:00 pm #2081
Page Family.. Connecting the dots
I know it has been some time since I posted my last post.. But I am just getting around/having enough time to get back into my research. My question is How exactly is the Page Family related to the Blackfoot (Saponi) Indians? I am curious to know.. who married who? In all my research I cannot figure this out?
Through the stories in my family ‘folklore’ I have always been told that I am related to the “Blackfoot Indians” .. I just want to find the actual link.. :confused:
Anyone that would have any information..
I look forward to your reply.
Thank You,
Anna
PS. I got the book that was recommended by a post from this site titled ..
“The Genealogy Of The PAGE Family in Virginia” and I love it! – So thank you!
February 6, 2006 at 10:00 pm #19064Charles City:
Collins, Dennis, Bradby, Howell, Langston, Stewart, Wynn, Custalow (Custaloo), Dungoe, Holmes, Miles, Page, Allmond, Adams, Hawkes, Spurlock, Doggett
February 6, 2006 at 10:00 pm #19065Sorry, this posted pre-maturely. Actually I was going to say
you might start trying to unravel your Pages with a side trip to
Plecker’s List. Try doing a search here on Saponitown for Plecker’s List. If you do not find it here…go out to ‘google’ and try key words–melungeon, Plecker’s list.
Saponi1
February 6, 2006 at 10:00 pm #19066From: Freeafricanamericans.com
PAGE FAMILY
Several members of the Page family, perhaps siblings, were taxables in Norfolk County in the 1750s. They were
i. Sam, born say 1728, taxable in Norfolk County near Tanner’s Bridge in 1752 [Wingo, Norfolk County Tithables, 1751-65, 31].
1 ii. Ann, born say 1730.
iii. Abraham, a “Free Negro” who was indentured to William Denby when Denby made his 2 September 1749 Norfolk County will [McIntosh, Brief Abstracts of Norfolk County Wills, 300].
iv. Rachel, born say 1734, a taxable “free negro” head of her own Norfolk County household in the District of the Borough of Norfolk on the South Side of Tanner’s Creek to Spratt’s Bridge between 1757 and 1765 [Wingo, Norfolk County Tithables, 1751-65, 122, 145, 217].
v. Margaret, born say 1736, a taxable “free negro” head of her own Norfolk County household in the District of the Borough of Norfolk on the South Side of Tanner Creek to Great Bridge in 1759 [Wingo, Norfolk County Tithables, 1751-65, 145].
vi. Sarah, born say 1745, a taxable in the east side of the borough of Norfolk in 1765 [Wingo, Norfolk County Tithables, 1751-65, 217].
1. Ann Page, born say 1730, was taxable in Ann James’ household in 1754 in Norfolk County near Tanner’s Creek and head of her own household from 1754 to 1765, called “free negro” in some years and “Mollata” in others [Wingo, Norfolk County Tithables, 1751-65, 92, 122, 145, 182, 217]. She may have been the mother of
i. Thomas, born say 1759, a “free Negro” ordered bound apprentice by the churchwardens of Elizabeth River Parish in Norfolk County court on 16 May 1760 (no parent named) [Orders 1759-63, 36].
ii. James, born say 1765, head of a Bertie County, North Carolina household of 2 “other free” in 1790 [NC:14].
Their descendants were most likely
i. Maria, head of a Richmond City household of 2 “other free” and 2 slaves in 1810 [VA:345].
ii. Nathaniel, head of a Richmond City household of 2 “other free” in 1810 [VA:345].
iii. John, head of a Henrico County household of 2 “other free” in 1810 [VA:996].
February 6, 2006 at 10:00 pm #19067From Ancestry.com 1870 census:
Ida B Page West Point, King William, VA abt 1867 Virginia Indian Male
View Record James A Page West Point, King William, VA abt 1867 Virginia Indian Male
View Record Julany Page West Point, King William, VA abt 1853 Virginia Indian Female
View Record Labboth f Page West Point, King William, VA abt 1840 Virginia Indian Male
Happy Hunting….
I’ll post more as I find more.
saponi1
February 6, 2006 at 10:00 pm #19068More Indian Pages 1870 Census…
Barton Page Fall River Ward 6, Bristol, MA abt 1836 Massachusetts Indian Male
View Record Julia E Page Fall River Ward 6, Bristol, MA abt 1838 Massachusetts Indian Female
View Record Chas M Page Not Stated, Leake, MS abt 1857 Mississippi Indian Male
View Record Emaline Page Not Stated, Leake, MS abt 1862 Mississippi Indian Female
View Record Milly Page Not Stated, Leake, MS abt 1835 Mississippi Indian Female
View Record Rusan Page Not Stated, Leake, MS abt 1869 Mississippi Indian Male
View Record Thomas Page Not Stated, Leake, MS abt 1850 Mississippi Indian Male
Saponi1
February 6, 2006 at 10:00 pm #19070.. Thank you for the information that you have provided.. On your last post that named actual Indians.. Is there any way to find out who they married.. children? My brother thinks that I am crazy- about the Indian Bloodlines.. So I am trying to connect the dots to trace the lineage. I don’t understand why you made the posts in regard to the african-free slaves.. they are not Indian?
My page family is from Rosewell, Gloucester Co., VA
(that i know of)
Thank you again for your information-
Anna
February 6, 2006 at 10:00 pm #19072african-free slaves?
Anna, Freeafricanamericans.com is the web-site of Paul Heinegg it contains the names and histories of many Indian families from the Upper South. If you are new to South Eastern Research you may not be familiar with him. However, sooner or later most of us end up at his site, whether we agree with his racial designations or not–he has done a fantastic job of tracking many of the free families during the colonial period. I don’t always know what a person has researched and how familiar they are with the various laws that affected our people during the colonial period. You will find few people enumerated as indian in the colonial records in the south east, many are enumerated as mulatto, colored, and yes–black. So that is why this site is included as well.
The take away from the information I’ve provided is quickly:
The Page name appears on Plecker’s list, it is also listed in Freeafricanamericans.com, it is also enumerated in several census as American Indian–Soooo–you have some strong basis of research for your roots. Being on Plecker’s list in VA is pretty strong evidence.
The who, the what, the where…that is the joy of this research…
Saponi1
February 6, 2006 at 10:00 pm #19073The cemetery at the church at the Pamunkey reservation has many Page burials…… some of the earliest, in fact. By river, they are just upstream from Rosewell.
Becky and I would also like to pin down the likely ndn unions of the original Page settler line…. some evidence would suggest that it started with the first and second american-born generations. There will also be lineages of slaves who took the Page name…… and probably unrelated ndns who were associated with the Page family. Rosewell is magnificent and powerful even in ruins… one of the highlights of mine and Becky’s honeymoon.
Anna, Becky’s line, like yours, is provable back to the owner of Rosewell.
February 6, 2006 at 10:00 pm #19074Could you send me a link to the “Plecker’s List” I can’t seem to find it??
Thanks,
Anna
February 6, 2006 at 10:00 pm #19075February 6, 2006 at 10:00 pm #19081I wonder who else is buried in that cemetery…….is there a listing anywhere?
Saj
February 6, 2006 at 10:00 pm #19148Anna, I hope this isn’t too confusing. Since the tribal people who have been named in our families as Blackfoot were disrupted so early on, with no “rolls,” or lists of members, and because the colonial and ante-bellum, and then Jim Crow laws militated against categorizing anyone of color as anything other than black or mulatto, it’s rare to find Indian people in the upper south ever listed as Indian. Then, of course, there are all the Indian families who were classified as “white,” even though the neighbors weren’t exactly buying it.
Paper genocide was the rule east of the Mississippi. By that I mean the practice of extinguishing anyone’s claims to Indian ancestry (and lands) by simply categorizing them as something else, black or white. I’m afraid you won’t find a simple, documented link to a Virginia Blackfoot Indian. Adding to the difficulty is that it appears the name “Blackfoot” is something our people called themselves. The whites never used the term. It’s rarely documented at all.
BUT, since the advent of the internet, we have been able to pool our information, and there are very clear patterns of surname and location backing up the belief that these family ID’s do lead back to the Siouan peoples of the VA/NC Piedmont.
Hang in there, there is much more that you can know than you would have ever expected.
February 6, 2006 at 10:00 pm #19159AfriGeneas Free Persons of Color Forum
Indian slaves in Virginia
Posted By: Paul Heinegg
Date: Friday, 10 February 2006, at 6:29 p.m.
When I first began my research of Virginia’s court records, I assumed that the Indians which most colonists came into contact with were Tributary Indians. However, I found records of so many Indians living in English colonial households as slaves and servants that I made a separate file of them. These records indicate that it is more likely that that the Indians which most colonists came into contact with on a daily basis were actually slaves.
Here is the file: http://wwww.freeafricanamericans.com/free_Indians.htm
And I just came across this document in Princess Anne County whereby Richard Bell freed his Indian woman servant and her son:
Be it known unto all men…by my own voluntary will for the good services and the good will I bear to my servant maid Eliza. Hill an Indian and her son David have given and granted…deed of gift…full and clear discharge from the service of me and my heirs. 20 March 1748/9 [Deed Book 1747-1755, pages 96-7].
Paul
posted by Saponi1
February 6, 2006 at 10:00 pm #19180Originally posted by AnnaIsCuteInLV
..My page family is from Rosewell, Gloucester Co., VA
(that i know of)
Anna
If you ever get the chance, go to Rosewell Plantation…just to stand there will give you a real emotional connection. I bought the video of the place, which I am sure you can order from the same place as the book.
My Page connection goes back to Rosewell, too…so howdy cuz! I have folks down here that also have the Page connection that were always good friends of our family…didn’t know we were so closely connected until we started doing our genealogy research. If you should ever make it to this area, I will be glad to introduce you to some of your distant cousins.
Also, visit Williamsburg as there are Pages buried at Bruton Parish church as well. That was also pretty awesome. If you like, I can send you some pictures that I took on our honeymoon of the plantation and cemetery. Keep having fun…we are, Becky
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