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June 3, 2016 at 5:41 am #4477
I’ve spent the last couple days going over threads, stories and names. So many are familiar, either from my own family tree or from the last two years of research looking for our Hayes line. The rest of our tree has grown quite lovely… with the exception of that one darn branch.
Grandma Hayes was born in Monticello, Kentucky in 1906, to John Dale Hayes and Eliza F Meadows. Grandma always told us that story that we had Blackfoot Indian in us. She told my oldest sister long ago that she remembered her Grandmother, that she looked Indian, wore Indian clothes and had long dark hair. She visited, but didn’t live close. Perhaps this Grandmother is on her Meadows side, of course.
GGrandpa John Hayes said his Mother was Lizza Veteto. and his father William Hayes of Va. No other names, dates or anything. I have been to Monticello and I realize the courthouse had fires that destroyed important documents but I can’t find ANYTHING on him before 1910. In 1900 there is a John Hayse living with a Scott family as a nephew, one of the sisters is married to a Thomas Hayes. Right birthdate but I’ve nothing to tie them together with. Not even the county, only the state. He has an older brother William Riley Hayes and a “brother” Elza Hayes. His marriage bond was by William Hayes and letter of permission by Mary E Abbott, Tom Abbott of Wayne Co. Ky.
Am I in the right place to break down this brick wall?
Thank you.
Tj
June 3, 2016 at 5:41 am #37994Jogdelog TJ,
Glad you found some relevant family info here.
Have you done any DNA tests on your Hayes line to try and break your brick wall?
peace
-Marc
June 3, 2016 at 5:41 am #37997Welcome to Saponitown. The Meadows and Hayes families here in Person Co. were both originally Va ndns although I haven’t been able to pin down the original tribes. My Meadows are about as difficult to track as yours. The Hayes families self-identify as Eno-Ocaneechee.
June 3, 2016 at 5:41 am #38000MarcSnelling;38889 wrote: Jogdelog TJ,
Glad you found some relevant family info here.
Have you done any DNA tests on your Hayes line to try and break your brick wall?
peace
-Marc
Thank you for the warm welcome Marc,
Before I found Saponi Town I (we, my oldest sister and I) thought we were going crazy, always dead ends or loose strings at every name we found. Birthdates and places are never the same. I was literally at my wits end when I found you guys. This blonde hair – blue eyed – ruddy complection girl always scoffed at Grandmas “Blackfoot Indian” comments, I always chalked it up to growing up barefoot! It dawned on me not long ago I am the only blonde/blue eyed kid out of a family of 7 kids. My siblings are either brown or hazel eyed brunettes, with the exception of a brother who had blue eyes and one eyes was half brown. I can’t tell you how many times I wish I could just sit and talk to Grandma again, this time I would listen and remember.
Yes, we have done all our siblings DNA thru Ancestry. Funny.. found a niece we didn’t know we had by a brother who had passed away abt 3yrs prior. She was adopted at birth. Bittersweet. All tests are on Gedmatch, my number is A244357. I’m not really familiar with all the tools on Gedmatch but I have ran the Eurogenes K-13 admixture for all of us. My brother Tom shows the highest Amerindian results a little more than my own at 1.49. Not a lot I know, but it’s a clue. I also have a DNA tree on Ancestry and a private “working” tree.
There is so much to learn!
June 3, 2016 at 5:41 am #38001Dreaminghawk;38892 wrote: Welcome to Saponitown. The Meadows and Hayes families here in Person Co. were both originally Va ndns although I haven’t been able to pin down the original tribes. My Meadows are about as difficult to track as yours. The Hayes families self-identify as Eno-Ocaneechee.
Hello Dreaminghawk!
I have read several of your posts/threads … inquiring minds keep coming back 😉 . I’ve read several Meadows threads and whatever Hayes information I can find. It’s like whatever information I need, is staying just beyond my fingertips, I just can’t quite reach it!
I am absolutely stuck in 1910, sort of. That is the first census my GGrandfather is on, married with children. I have his 1900 marriage license/bond from Wayne Co, Ky. Bondsman was William Hayes (no idea if brother or father) and a “permission of marriage” letter signed by William T Abbott & Mary Abbott aka Mary Elizabeth Hayes of Slickford, Ky. I don’t think she is their mother, but a guardian or Aunt who took them in. Rumor has it, her two daughters Eura and Mona were adopted from the local Indians. Mona married Louis S West, the son of Enoch S West, Wayne County.
All my Meadows/Hayes and extended family ended up in Jacksonville, Illinois when they flooded the Cumberland Valley and their farm.
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