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hi I’m new to this forum but I had to give this a try.My family has been searching for family for a very long time I am pretty young and my fascination for history has the best of me.I have been told to search for the names of Butler,Lewis,Corn
so far I havent had any luck:(
I herd that we found some family from down the line but his information was locked and the family isnt sure how to go about getting the information we need to go about our search.
I have herd that we may be decendents of the susquehannocks but I think that,that is a very very slim chance because from many searches I have only found out that white settlers had killed the last twelve and only two survived because they were working late out in the feilds it didnt say if the two who survived or ever had any kids.later I found that two ppl whos names I really cant recall were in cherokee counrty but this may be wrong.I dont want to rule anything out because anything is possible.
I will try to find out some more info from other family members asap if anyone has any opinions I am sure it would help me out thank you
Lost
howdy Lost,
http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/monthlyprograms/american_indian/2001/map.html
your request got me curious. I always like to get a handle on the history of a region or a tribe before seeing if I can do any good helping someone.
I thought the above website was wonderful for showing the history of Pennsylvania Indians. It mentions the Susquehanna (sp?) also. Also note “Tutelo” — interesting.
It was intersting that there is mention of 300 Conestoga (the article says the Conestoga are the Susquehana) and this number dwindles down to nothing, with the last few being murdered. It says they became Christian. It is possible some simply moved to white towns, intermarried, and were assimilated.
Can you trace your family to that region mentioned in the article above as where the Conestoga were living — a Pa community called Conestoga? It is possible you won’t be able to find proof, but maybe you can find circumstantial evindence. It can’t replace proof, but it is better than nothing.
good luck
vance
Dear Lost,
HI!:D Glad you’re here. Look foreward to much conversation with you in the future. This has all been a fun learning experience for me, as well as finding some of the sweetest people in the world. I think you’ll like it here!;)
Vance, “Tutelo” too, COOL. Love & Light, Lynella.
Welcome, lost, hope we’ll help you find something.
Corn is a very important Saponi name, one of the very few that are documented to tribal people. Butler and Lewis are prominent names in the same locale the Corn’s were in. So let me ask, where has your family lived, that you know of?
Some Susquehannah were in that same locale at one point, it’s said that their survivors were absorbed by the Meherrin, so, they are still there. Tell us what you know about your family and I’m sure we’ll all pitch in to trace them down.
As far as I know maryland va,and I think pa.Right now we are in maryland I am goint to ask for more information I am not to sure of my info/answers and I dont want to get anything mixed up as we all know thats not hard to do.
Welcome Lost. Your post intrigued me as well. You see the name “Corn” is also found in Southern Indiana and Iowa. Several years ago I was in touch with a member of the Corn family who was researching their lines. TheCorn’s were prominent in the Pike and Gibson Counties of Indiana and are related to the Ashby’s and Arnold’s plus possibly others that I might be able to dig information out on later. My advice for someone just starting to research their families is to start with your immediate family members asking them about other family ties and histories. Start a notebook and write down all possible family names that they give you. Ask questions such as where that person was born and when. Where such and such a person died and when and where are they buried. Then this can lead you into locating birth and death records, census records and the like. One other thing that I would suggest to someone just starting – is to get some books on Genealogy research. There’s some good ones out there and they’ve got some great tips in them and they’ll tell you where to locate records. If you need help with anything – I’ll try to help. I live in Pennsylvania, and I know Maryland and Virginia very well. Although let me warn you that my job does interfere with my genealogy passion quite a bit. But sometimes I just take the time to do it anyway!:)
Originally posted by vance hawkins
It was intersting that there is mention of 300 Conestoga (the article says the Conestoga are the Susquehana) and this number dwindles down to nothing, with the last few being murdered. It says they became Christian. It is possible some simply moved to white towns, intermarried, and were assimilated.
Can you trace your family to that region mentioned in the article above as where the Conestoga were living — a Pa community called Conestoga? It is possible you won’t be able to find proof, but maybe you can find circumstantial evindence. It can’t replace proof, but it is better than nothing.
Lost I have included (as a quote) Vance’s post from earlier. Just to make the point about a PA community called “Conestoga”. The Conestoga wagons that was used to transport people and there belongings to the west. Were built in an area known as Conestoga, PA. Now I don’t believe that this community actually exists any more – but I could be wrong. I do know that the area where it was located is North East of Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Out towards the “New Holland” area. This is Amish country. They are the ones that built the original Conestoga wagons. I looked it up on my mapping program and I was able to locate at least 3 references to a “Conestoga School”; Jr High Scool; etc. all laying in an area between Lancaster, PA and the PA turnpike – all to the East side of the Turnpike.
Kerry,
My Richey’s, Wood’s, and Dickson’s all arrived in Gibson County, Indiana between the late 1790s and the decade of the 18-zero-zeroes.
I’d love to hear more about what you have about that area. Thanks —
vance
A brief history of the Susquehanna/Conestoga. At the outset of the 1600s it was clear that there would be a great deal of competition among Woodlands tribes for the fur trade. It was an arms race, those who could trade fur for the most guns would likely prevail in ancient rivalries. The Susquehanna, who then lived in what’s now the Susquehanna watershed in PA (most of the state) seemed the likeliest choice to prevail. The League of Iroquois were a dark horse in that race. By the end, however, the Iroquois League had prevailed. The decisive blow came about when the Susquehanna began trading with the Swiss, who were newcomers into the business of colonizing the Americas. The Swiss made the disasterous mistake of trading the Susquehanna cannon for furs. This terrifying leap in weaponry caused the Iroquois to go all out in their offensive on the Susquehanna, at the same time the Susquehanna were beset with a new epidemic. They were annihilated.
Some survivors lived in Conestoga and were converted to Christianity. They are remembered for the horrible massacre commited on them by the “Paxton Boys,” a local militia crazed paranoid by fears of attack during the F&I war. They herded the small defenseless band of old men, women and children into a church and then killed them all.
Of note for our research of the VA Siouan, another band of these Susquehanna survivors made it down to Virginia, where they attempted to survive. There are lots of mention of them causing trouble, though I wonder if it wasn’t convenient at the time for the resident tribes to blame the Susquehanna for any mishaps.
Bacon’s Rebellion started when some Doegs got into a dispute with a white man who cheated them. The Doegs attempted to even the score by stealing some hogs. They were killed, in retribution several whites were killed. When a militia went after them they apparently mistook the Susquehanna for them, or assumed the Susquehanna were harboring them and laid siege on their village, after killing their headmen who’d come out in peace to parlay.
The Susquehanna then went into full scale war against the British. By then, vigilantes were rising up against any and all Indians. The Occoneechee attempted to defuse the situation by leading vigilante Bacon to the Susquehanna, who at that point had some Monacan friends of the Occoneechee held as hostage (things had obviously deteriorated badly between the O’s and the S’s.) I would imagine the Occoneechee reasoned that it would be safer for their friends and themselves if they conducted the attack on the Susquehanna themselves, which they did.
The next day, Bacon’s men nonetheless attacked the Occoneechee and drove them from their island, killing a great many. It was the end of Piedmont Siouan political independence forever.
So, a connection to the Susquehanna may have occurred in either Virginia, or Pennsylvania, since in the 1700s, many Saponi/Tutelo fled to former Susquehanna lands in Pennsylvania.
I got some help and this is what he sent me:
William LEWISb.1778
Joshua LEWISb.1807{
Samuel LEWISb.1835{ Lydia?
father Robert LEWISb.1863{ Cassey? B.1810
Albert LEWIS b.1910{ Rachael JOHNSONb.1838
William CORN b.1790
William Henry CORN b.1820{
mother Henrietta May CORNb.1863{ Milcah? B.1790
Henry PRICE
Mary A. PRICE b.1825{
Pete Kennard b.1797
John T. Kennard b.1845{ John Durbin b.1774
Isabella DURBIN b.1807{Delilah?
father David R. Kennard b.1870{ David Hamilton b.1824
Hattie Ellen KENNARD b.1912{ Harriet E. HAMILTON b.1847{ Shadrach Johnson b.1803
Julia A. JOHNSONb.1828{
Emily?
Samuel Butler b.1849
Mother Mami R. BUTLER b.1870{
Issac Harris b.1795
Anne R. HARRIS b.1849{ Robert Lingham b.1792
Eliza Ann LINGHAM b.1825{ Charlotte ? b.1797
oh i forgot All families are from Maryland.The Corn/Price family lived in Bristol Mass. for a while, but where from Maryland.
Hey Lost,
Just checking in on you. How is everything going? Is the hunt for your Lewis’ & Corns coming along? Just thought I’d say hi! Hadn’t heard anything out of ya’ in a few days!:) Lynella.
Another historical note: The Tutelo are documented in Maryland ca. 1743, when they joined with the Seneca (their old adversaries) against the British. A local Nanticoke convert squealed on them however, and the day was lost. Simultaneously, a town in the vicinity was dubbed “Blackfoot Town.” Many of us feel the name Blackfoot is a marker for Saponi/Tutelo, VA Siouan people.
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