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Hello All, well the flags a flop.
I have recently started silversmithing, and since Linda has asked me to have some input into the Great Trading Path site, here’s the skinny, lets come up with a silver pin? pendant that can be sold on the site to members , 3 arrow configuration maybe, maybe something else.
If any one is interested enough to reply please do so, thanx .
I think that’s a great idea. I’ll go for it.
We need to confirm what configuration other groups are using and make sure ours is different so nobody feels like we’re ripping them. For silver, I guess one arrow needs to cross the others. I think the Monacan are using something like that. I better see what it is, so we can figure out a sufficiently different variation.
Tom:
You have my vote. I am not sure how others feel, it might be construed as exclusionary, but what about adding symbols of some of the theories for the Blackfoot ID, i.e. darker moccasins and/or flames, for the burned fields?
Cindy
Linda; I think you’re right. The symbol for the Monacan Confederacy was three arrows. How you had your three arrows configured signified what member tribe you belonged to. (I think that’s how that goes.)
Dan Akin.
GGGGreat! I’ll leave the design up to all of you when something is decided, I’ll get on it.
Perhaps we can have all of our older posters here to join in aswell, I’d like to see as many as possble.
If you look on the John White sketches, the people sitting or croutching around pillars with faces carved into them( on the very best of the reproductions that I have seen) , the arrow patterns on the backs of the people were clearly seen, !
I recall that the Cherokee people used to use crossed pins to signify the members of the keetowa society, so I think that we could do something simular here aswell, and since silver is affordable to all it would be a nice addition to our store house of gems.
In time I can decide what type of manufacturing methods to use, if there’s a large interest, casting may be the way to go, if not hand building will siffice.
This is a really nice way to say Iam a “Sixsapaha.!
Best To All Tom
This was takenfrom the History of Pennsylvania Co. I posted on the other section of the forum.
The Indians of Pittsylvania belonged to the Siouian race, and their tribal name was Sapony, their tribal sign, three arrow heads painted on the shoulder.
“on the shoulder” what does this mean?
Brenda
One of the Bureau of Ethnology books had the illustrations of the arrows as they were done. It’s not Swanton. Does anybody else have access to this series? It’s generally in a large university library. The book I’m thinking about is devoted to the subject of dress, ornamentation, etc. in the southeast. I have no plans to go to Greenville in the next week or so. Can anybody else help?
Linda:
I can look in our library on Wednesday but I would not be surprised if we had this series. I will check though.
Cindy
Great! Tom, do you remember the name/author of this book? I think you and I have talked about it before.
This series may be the “hand book to North American Indians ” a series put out by the Smithsonian, it has a red block on the spine and there was about 8-10 when I checked last.
This series is divided into cultural areas southeast, northeast, subarctic, plains etc.
If this is the book!/ but remember that the southeastrern tribal area does not have as much materials devoted to it as other areas, a real dissapointment for me and Iam sure all of us when we start searching.
Also keep in mind the other citation that I had mentioned since it did have some very good info.
Oh the single book that may also have these arrow patterns is in J. R. Swantons books, I believe that he did the best compilations, Indians of the Southeast etc and Indians of the Lower MS valley etc, all very good papers.
We can and should keep the 3 arrows patterns, we just need to find a method of holding them together, so keep this in mind when looking for a design; since we are scattered far and wide, and we all have been searching etc use these simularities to help in the design.
lastly we should all share in this and if we should settle on a particular pattern I hope that others will not be upset.
This is something that I would really like to see, like Lindas camp out( bringing people together) I believe that we need some sort of article to help ” id ” our group.
All the best Tom
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