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Nicole,
I’ve been interested in getting a tattoo since I was in my 20’s. I thought about it again seriously when I turned 40. I figure if I wait long enough, it will still look good when I die.
Gravity is not kind!:D
Patty
And cosmologists refer to gravity as the “weak force”……..
just goes to show ya what they don’t know !
Hello All, I hope that with all of the interest in this that we can come up with as much available material as possible and have it posted here.
We should have as many patterns as are known, if someone can find one pattern that may pretain to Blackfoot that would be great, but I think that we would be very lucky if that happened.
Probably what may happen is that we have to pick from several patterns and start from there.
What we need to do is also find something to attach or hold the 3 arrows to and that small piece will have a great deal of say.
I would like to say that we need to try and post all the materials that we are discussing here.
Please all of you should look at the comparisons between Whites colors and de Brys plates there is a huge difference.
If any one can post the info from Mc cary’s book that would be very nice for us viewers.
All the best Tom
Here’s a few URL’s. Two versions of the tatooed person, one color and one black and white : http://docsouth.unc.edu/nc/hariot/ill25b.html
http://www.mariner.org/chesapeakebay/native/nam009.html
and another URL of artifacts from a Siouan village if pictures might be considered: http://rla.unc.edu/lessons/Lesson/L405/H405g.htm
Techteach
Techteach,
Thanks for shaing the great pic/sketches,I have some of the same ones.Primarily where I got the idea to mark myself.I think tribal mark tattoos can be a beautiful expression of cultural identity and affinity to ancestors.
In Blood
Nicole
To all; You have the arrow groupings. Would the other figures in the drawing represent arrangements of crossed calumets (peace pipes)? Just wondering!
Dan.
Hello Bill, if a series of the same object is made over and over then casting is the best method to be used, casting grain is melted in a “cup” and the molten metal is forced into the negative form, each negative form is started with a wax cast, and then put into a plaster, this is burned out and then the metal is forced into the form, afterwards it’s realeased from the mold and cleaned up., if the object is a one of a kind or fairly simple to do then it can be made by hand over and over, occassionally aided by the use of a press etc.
For this project I’d like to combine several methods and hand build the pins, it may be that we eventually have more than one type, etc.
Dan the other designs on the head mans back look like arrangments of a form of wind design a swastika , that is a calendar device combining the solarand the lunar calendar.
Almost everyone on the planet had this swastika pattern. The deesign on the mans back “f”? looks like a patern used in cane baskets, “E” resmbles the swastika; one intersting observation here is that only “D” consists of 3 arrows.
Tom, thanks for the inforomation on how you do that. It’s very interesting because my brother uses an oven to make things, also.
I too noticed that only one of the tatooed designs followed the three arrows motif. My take on that illustration is that the tatooed figure showed designs “representative” of “the Indians of Virginia” and includes many designs from many different groups, not necessarily Siouan.
I hope my original reluctance about a flag didn’t hurt your feelings. That wasn’t my intent. A flag just doesn’t seem appropriate but that’s only my opinion that shouldn’t be construed to be encumbent on anyone elses action. Everyone has a say and Little GrandMother Linda has the final say 🙂
Bill
It’s a mark of respect.
A male, when speaking to or of a girl or woman younger than himself, refers to her as a “Little GrandMother”.
One older is “GrandMother”.
I thought it was generally understood – sorry – no disrespect was intended.
Hello Everyone, I hope that we find the meanings to the arrow patterns soon, I’d like to see this come together.
no issue taken on the flag idea Bill, I just want something that we can all share collectively in and I think that the pin is better than the flag anyway.
If anyone has any ideas for pin patterns please I think members should start putting them down on paper.
Brenda had a nice idea, and I think that she may have been the only one to suggest one so far.
I hope that everyone joins in here and does the same.
Has anyone looked into the dig records for some of the eastrern souian towns?
Best to All Tom
Since Linda said that a rattlesnake has been found at the dig sites, how about a rattlesnake wrapped around the three arrows with the head shown at the side? Maybe Linda has the URL for the site where this rattlesnake can be found. I have seen it, but I don’t know where I saw it.
Techteach
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